Geelong rorting the system

[PhatBoy]

Any news on what Chris Scott has done to earn his $100 grand rort yet?

Spent it on an All Australian blazer for Tom Hawkins this year

 

[No SPIN]

Sport? How old are you, 70? What am I wriggling out of? I said it once and I’m saying it again. You tried to level stupid accusations based on the ‘no smoke without fire’ premise because YOU don’t like how well another team is doing, as though that’s going to revolutionise a legal parameter that’s been in place since 1100 AD

You’ve even brought up Cotton On deals that were made with Bailey Smith…. Who signed Cotton On deals two years before he left the Bulldogs. A sure sign we were cheating. Grow a spine mate.

Yep - Cotton On got him to dip his toe in, before submerging him completely in to the cesspool.

 

[No SPIN]

You still didn’t answer how state and federal dollars being used to set up to improve “Sport” just happened to go directly to the training facilities of the person who set up the program in the first place to benefit 1 professional sports team and not a state or League wide initiative.

It’s the equivalent of pork barrelling which is very much illegal and would absolutely constitute sanctions, you know.

Actual rorting outside of the salary cap

Such a naive question.
You do realize that Eddie Maguire couldn’t make unilateral decisions of how the money was spent.

 

[PhatBoy]

Yep - Cotton On got him to dip his toe in, before submerging him completely in to the cesspool.

Well I’m convinced.

Because you said it happened it happened.

I’ll be coming to you for all my queries on everything from here on in

 

[PhatBoy]

Such a naive question.
You do realize that Eddie Maguire couldn’t make unilateral decisions of how the money was spent.

No but FootyLad said he did. So he did.

That’s your logic. So it’s ours too. That’s how it works. You made this rule, not us.

 

[Whiskers]

The irony is that the complaints about geelong getting to play home games at a ground in their home city (like every other club in the league) is that it comes from supporters of tigers, pies and hawks who for most of the past twenty five years get to play away games against geelong at a ground in their own home city and not geelongs.

The only conclusion is that this is massive cognitive dissonance where these supporters cant mentally deal with the fact that their clubs have been given massive unjust advantage against geelong that has clearly impacted premiership outcomes in their favour and compensate by using irrational logic to try and twist it as geelong getting an unjust advantage when we occassionally get home games in geelong against other inferior teams. It really is MAGA level illogic.

Just had to quote this because it’s what confuses me the most.
The most complaining comes from fans of teams that are looked after the most. I find it bizarre.

It could be that they know they have the most advantages so look to target someone else as they don’t want to be seen as the most looked after?

These teams never ever travel to Geelong yet they do the most complaining.

 

[No SPIN]

Well I’m convinced.

Because you said it happened it happened.

I’ll be coming to you for all my queries on everything from here on in

Your ongoing reverence was inevitable.

 

[No SPIN]

No but FootyLad said he did. So he did.

That’s your logic. So it’s ours too. That’s how it works. You made this rule, not us.

Except there’s a difference between oversight of Government funding/spending and Private money

 

[FootyLad0]

Except there’s a difference between oversight of Government funding/spending and Private money

Yeah? Private money usually doesn’t have the level of restriction that government money has.
And yet the state of the art AIA Centre got pretty much all of the funding and yet none of the other clubs did?

Interesting

 

[No SPIN]

Yeah? Private money usually doesn’t have the level of restriction that government money has.
And yet the state of the art AIA Centre got pretty much all of the funding and yet none of the other clubs did?

Interesting

Take it up with your local member.

 

[Chronz]

Any news on what Chris Scott has done to earn his $100 grand rort yet?

Hey m8. He's just coincidentally taken jobs from Geelong Sponsors and other linked businesses that deal with them. No need to pry, he's just busy with his 6 full and part time jobs is all.

 

[sosos]

What breaches. You still haven’t told anyone what they are yet. Free tit implants for the girls. Free wheel alignments at Jax Torquay. Free espresso martini’s when you mention David Johnson’s name at the pub in Apollo Bay during a drive down the coast? Help me out here.

Guilt with no proof of anything other than what you’ve just made up in a story and posted on a website. This is where the legal system is at because you don’t like footy scores

I'll never say guilty without proof, but I'm sorry, I just don't trust we have heard the full story.

Do you?

 

[PhatBoy]

I'll never say guilty without proof, but I'm sorry, I just don't trust we have heard the full story.

Do you?

What story!! We are subject to all the same rules and policing as everyone else and have to acquire players and keep them the same way.

So yeah I do. I don’t doubt that we manipulate things within the rules to suit us and I believe every club would or does. But I think the whole idea that we are somehow running an illegal side operation contrary to what the afl knows about through land deals etc is a made up idea from bedwetting weak minded individuals who are too spineless to cope with what happens in a sport and need to find excuses for it. The same ones who blame umpires or COLA or the draft or whatever when the table doesn’t look the way they want it to rather than just going ‘that team was better than us.’

If that weren’t the case, they would apply proper logic to the theory and understand that Geelong ISNT the only club that acquires players. They would lose this stupid idea that we keep picking up stars and realise ‘hang on they’ve signed 3 in 11 seasons and one of them wasn’t even an All Australian and hadn’t played a game in 18 months when he debuted for them.’
They’d realise that Geelong ISNT the only club that could theoretically offer players real estate even though it probably doesnt anyway. They’d understand that Geelong getting audited ISNT a sign that they’re cheating…. But a sign that they’re an AFL club and every year two clubs get audited.

But it is easier to just make up a well worn narrative and ‘be suspicious.’

 

[STPer18]

Expecting this thread to hit critical mass if our Bunnies/Pies get rolled by the Crows. The new Richmond - excuses and deflection for their club's underperformance. What a fall from grace.

 

[PenfoldsFan]

Whats this about a school that the Vic Gov promised the good people of Geelong and now cant deliver on?
Didnt they spend millions on that cheat ground recently.

Poor kids.

 

[Sttew]

Didnt they spend millions on that cheat ground recently.

Poor kids.

7 years ago.

 

[PhatBoy]

Whats this about a school that the Vic Gov promised the good people of Geelong and now cant deliver on?
Didnt they spend millions on that cheat ground recently.

Poor kids.

Less than the SA government spent on yours.

 

[PenfoldsFan]

Less than the SA government spent on yours.

For 2 clubs and State/International cricket yeah?

 

[PenfoldsFan]

7 years ago.

You sure??

In November 2020 the government revealed it had assigned $142 million to complete this final stage of redevelopment.

Poor kids, cant get a school because a footy club needed more seats in its regional stadium it doesnt even fill or play all its home games at or finals.

 

[sosos]

What story!! We are subject to all the same rules and policing as everyone else and have to acquire players and keep them the same way.

So yeah I do. I don’t doubt that we manipulate things within the rules to suit us and I believe every club would or does. But I think the whole idea that we are somehow running an illegal side operation contrary to what the afl knows about through land deals etc is a made up idea from bedwetting weak minded individuals who are too spineless to cope with what happens in a sport and need to find excuses for it. The same ones who blame umpires or COLA or the draft or whatever when the table doesn’t look the way they want it to rather than just going ‘that team was better than us.’

If that weren’t the case, they would apply proper logic to the theory and understand that Geelong ISNT the only club that acquires players. They would lose this stupid idea that we keep picking up stars and realise ‘hang on they’ve signed 3 in 11 seasons and one of them wasn’t even an All Australian and hadn’t played a game in 18 months when he debuted for them.’
They’d realise that Geelong ISNT the only club that could theoretically offer players real estate even though it probably doesnt anyway. They’d understand that Geelong getting audited ISNT a sign that they’re cheating…. But a sign that they’re an AFL club and every year two clubs get audited.

But it is easier to just make up a well worn narrative and ‘be suspicious.’

I'm not disputing anything you are saying, apart from, possibly implying I am a bed wetting individual by asking the question.

I have no issues with your club.

Acknowledge there is little, if any hard evidence of land deals.

But you've gone on a hard rant there. Feels like you are not just replying to me and my post.

The only land deal I recall hearing about was the one where Bomber Thompson supposedly cleaned up after a fortuitous rezoning. I guess that would be the starting point of any "story".

I know nothing about Cotton on deals, and completely acknowledge all clubs should utilise anything legal to gain an advantage.

I assume Geelong are in fact doing that, and I have zero issues with that, apart from restating I am not sure I will ever accept the findings of any review run by the AFL.

If you do, that's fine, but I think it's rude to call someone names if their fairly stated opinion differs from yours

But 100% acknowledge that this thread is full of some pretty big leaps of logic, so can understand why you have responded the way you have.

 

[Sttew]

You sure??

In November 2020 the government revealed it had assigned $142 million to complete this final stage of redevelopment.

Poor kids, cant get a school because a footy club needed more seats in its regional stadium it doesnt even fill or play all its home games at or finals.

Mate you really need to stay in your lane. Which government pledged $142M? I think you are mistaking federal and state governments, and schools are not in the federal domain.

And if you think money earmarked for a stadium is why a school can't be built, you are deluded. Have you checked the level of Victorian state debt?

https://www.ausleisure.com.au/news/labor-makes-election-pledges-to-upgrade-geelong-performing-arts-centre-and-gmbha-stadium/

 

[STPer18]

This reminds me of the time a poster from Brisbane was trying to talk crap about Geelong when up until recently they were collecting their poop in bags for poop collection days because there was no functioning sewerage system. Are RADelaide folk able to drink their tap water nowadays without having to chew it first?

 

[PhatBoy]

For 2 clubs and State/International cricket yeah?

And?

 

[PhatBoy]

I'm not disputing anything you are saying, apart from, possibly implying I am a bed wetting individual by asking the question.

I have no issues with your club.

Acknowledge there is little, if any hard evidence of land deals.

But you've gone on a hard rant there. Feels like you are not just replying to me and my post.

The only land deal I recall hearing about was the one where Bomber Thompson supposedly cleaned up after a fortuitous rezoning. I guess that would be the starting point of any "story".

I know nothing about Cotton on deals, and completely acknowledge all clubs should utilise anything legal to gain an advantage.

I assume Geelong are in fact doing that, and I have zero issues with that, apart from restating I am not sure I will ever accept the findings of any review run by the AFL.

If you do, that's fine, but I think it's rude to call someone names if their fairly stated opinion differs from yours

But 100% acknowledge that this thread is full of some pretty big leaps of logic, so can understand why you have responded the way you have.

Because I still don’t know what it is you think I’m supposed to be suspicious about!! That’s basically why. I haven’t even called YOU a bedwetter I’ve said that the people who assume all of this comes from some form of cheating are the kind of people who can’t accept that a side just wins.

All I am supposed to go off is the stuff people in this forum are saying, basically.

 

[Elixuh]

The walls of text posted by Geelong supporters conveys a sense of terror that the rorts are coming undone and that they’ve got more to hide. Interesting.