NO TROLLS Rankine handed a 4 match suspension by the AFL integrity unit for a homophobic slur against opponent

[Cyclops]

It's not it's over the top. 2 would be fine but the AFL chose otherwise and now they have this situation with the team on top of ladder a week out from the finals. The never expected to get to this. And now they think the penalty is too harsh.

Yes i agree.

i see the Adelaide POV, id be upset too although id like to think id cop it sweet.

The delay is unfair, and undermines past decisions as well as unfairly disrupting everyones preparation.

MrBarry s question is very fair, as is the stuff about other slurs.

The AFL pulls decisions out of their arses. They went hard on homophobia, thats good. They have been inconsistent about drugs, and the Dank saga cost Demetriou his job. Violence against women gets less air, why?

Don't even get started on Pickett, the racists are having a field day because Dillon doesn't know how not to give them free hits, he's so useless.

We need new leaders, the currents ones are shit.

 

[Festerz]

"The AFL says Powell's penalty was increased due to its proximity to Jeremy Finlayson's similar incident, which occurred a few weeks ago."

The FULL quote was this:

The AFL said that the increase in the penalty for Powell was due to its "deep concern about this repeat in close proximity to the last occurrence and in order to further deter such conduct in the future".


Source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05...uspended-five-games-homophobic-slur/103825136

A bit of honesty in your posting would be a nice thing to see. Why? Because context matters. But I'm sure you've been told that before and I now see why you don't link to sources to back up your assertions.

Have now placed you on ignore for your clearly deliberate misrepresentative posts so don't bother responding.

 

[MrBarry]

Apparently if you’re “scragged” it’s acceptable to use derogatory language in your defence.

And these people have the gall to call players like Nick Daicos soft.

Mate you have an incredibly narrow mind on this topic.

"Racist or homophobic bad" anything else fair game

**** off.

 

[Pt Augusta Power]

No idea, but why are those the only types of slurs which would incur a sanction?

I.e. what if something was said about his partner?

So now the afl has to determine a matrix of what insults and jibes warrant a racial or homophobic slur?

 

[MrBarry]

So now the afl has to determine a matrix of what insults and jibes warrant a racial or homophobic slur.

If your going to ban players for homophobic slurs, then misogynistic slur bans should be on the table as well.

But you support a club who thought death threats were fine.

 

[Humblebob]

Mate you have an incredibly narrow mind on this topic.

"Racist or homophobic bad" anything else fair game

**** off.

I have never said any of that, mate.

You’re creating hypotheticals in an attempt to lessen or deflect from what has happened. You are projecting the way you think about this situation onto others as you think you and your team are being hard done by.

Thats it.

 

[MrBarry]

I have never said any of that, mate.

You’re creating hypotheticals in an attempt to lessen or deflect from what has happened. You are projecting the way you think about this situation.

So for instance, if a Collingwood player said something about Rankines partner. Would you want them suspended?

Not saying this happened but if it had.

 

[Number37]

I did half a law degree, and made a living as a punter for 20 years based on my understanding of precedents.

This boils down simply to one question. Is the punishment fair if a player is given a 4-5 week suspension for choosing the wrong word to describe a cowardly effort by an opponent? And let's acknowledge here that wrong word chosen is a seriously offensive slur against homosexual people.

In terms of a striking offence, this would likely be careless rather than deliberate. Low impact rather than high impact. And would receive a sanction of 1-2 weeks maximum. And that is the basis of what I am arguing here. If it was a deliberate and targeted homophobic slur, AND it caused sexual related anguish to the recipient of the remark, that imo is what equates to a 4-5 week suspension.

In legal matters, precedents are routinely followed. Until they are not. And this is a time a new precedent should be set.

A punch/kick/slap/trip/whatever is NOT the same as words.

That is your argument.

So why TF are you comparing the punishment for a punch/kick/slap/trip/whatever to the punishment for a word?

A striking offence is an action.
A slur is not an action.

Whether an action constitutes an offence is a question of law, not fact. Was it high or low impact + Was it deliberate or incidental. + + + etc
On the contrary, a homophobic slur is a question of fact. Did a person say a thing or not. If yes, guilty.
Like speeding. Cops don't give a F what your reason for speeding is. They only care if you are speeding, or not.

 

[Humblebob]

So for instance, if a Collingwood player said something about Rankines partner. Would you want them suspended?

Not saying this happened but if it had.

Did they?

I have already stated, what I, as an individual would expect if it were a player from my team that said what was said.

 

[ABAB]

The FULL quote was this:

The AFL said that the increase in the penalty for Powell was due to its "deep concern about this repeat in close proximity to the last occurrence and in order to further deter such conduct in the future".


Source: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-05...uspended-five-games-homophobic-slur/103825136

A bit of honesty in your posting would be a nice thing to see. Why? Because context matters. But I'm sure you've been told that before.

Have now placed you on ignore for your clearly deliberate misrepresentative posts so don't bother responding.

What's that got to do with the AFL just changing the suspension on how they see fit, that's the point I was making.

 

[MrBarry]

Did they?

Answer the question, you saw my post.

 

[Stax on the mill]

Can’t blame you for trying. You’re certainly very trying. And seriously deluded.

 

[Stax on the mill]

Ah yeah, here comes the real truth. More worried about taking a dent out of us because you got ****ing beat. You don't care about the slur mate.

Another childish, desperate post.

 

[MrBarry]

Another childish, desperate post. ,

Yeah like your pathetic laughing emojis on posts when I talk about domestic violence

 

[Elixuh]

Crom can’t blame the AFL for trying to mental gymnastics this one for them. They’re even pushing it as close to the next round as they possibly can.

 

[purplearmy]

Total farce. Five weeks on the table for words? May as well get your moneys worth and iron a player out. Sledging is part of the game whether the AFL likes it or not.

 

[Spook]

I don't think we all agree at all.

I think plenty of people, myself included, believe it to be on par with racism and a suspension of four weeks is more than warranted. If a Collingwood player used that language on Saturday night I would be more than comfortable with him being suspended for the rest of the season.

It's fine if you don't think it's equal to racism, and plenty don't. It's fine if you think it should only warrant a two-week ban. But don't underestimate how many people want it 100% stamped out of our game.

Sorry I triggered you. But get off your high righteous self virtuous horse mate. We all want it stamped out of the game. You make out that because I think it is a 2 week penalty vs 4 you accuse me of it not being serious. It’s bad but it’s still only words. It’s not a physical act of violence.

just because you think it’s should be 4 doesn’t make you a better human than anyone else.

 

[Underarm]

The fine and the suspended ban? I thought that was obvious.

What do you think Rankine would prefer? A fine and suspended ban? Or a 5 week ban like everyone else?

 

[ashep]

No idea, but why are those the only types of slurs which would incur a sanction?

I.e. what if something was said about his partner?

Alright galaxy brain, I'll engage with your bullshit.

If something were said about Rankine's partner it would be a dog act, and depending on the exact nature, yes, might be punishable.

But in plain English, no, it's not the same as using a slur that is widely recognised to express hatred towards a marginalised group.

Now, you know what Rankine said. In the unlikely event you actually want to have an intellectually honest conversation, provide a specific example of what your imagination suggests might have been said to him, and you'll get an answer.

 

[purplearmy]

This indigenous man should get 0 weeks. Other players should have gotten 0 weeks too. Draw a line in the sand now and just stop the insane bans.

 

[Stax on the mill]

Yeah like your pathetic laughing emojis on posts when I talk about domestic violence

Yes, because you’re embarrassing yourself (if that’s possible) every time you post. Lashing out at all and sundry in a juvenile, desperate attempt to muddy the waters. Rankine is gone old son, no matter how much you whinge, deflect, twist and squirm, and introduce irrelevancies in an attempt to justify the unjustifiable.

Most Crows supporters, although upset about the situation are realistic, and aren’t trying to excuse Rankine.

But you! Grow up FFS!

 

[Spook]

Put simply, no, but they should. I mean the f-word is a clear cut case but beyond that who knows.

Who is to say what others will be offended by. If you called someone a fairy is that homophobic?
What about a pu**y? Some say its sexist, others say its not. What about a sissy?
What about pansy? Goose? Idiot?

The line is different for every single person.

There are people that consider crap a swear word and would be offended by its use.

Well said. That’s the rabbit hole in a nut shell. Who is the judge? That’s why total unambiguous free speech is the only way to go. These days the professional victim class can make anything “offensive”, and then they’ll have the self virtuous types to fly their I’m offended flag.

 

[MrBarry]

Yes, because you’re embarrassing yourself (if that’s possible) every time you post. Lashing out at all and sundry in a juvenile, desperate attempt to muddy the waters. Rankine is gone old son, no matter how much you whinge, deflect, and twist and squirm, and introduce irrelevancies in an attempt to justify the unjustifiable.

Most Crows supporters, although upset about the situation are realistic, and aren’t trying to excuse Rankine.

But you! Grow up FFS!

We'll find out soon son.

 

[chickenonachain]

How in hell can it take this long to work out if a suspension is warranted or not, friggin hell three days so far and still no answer.

 

[Xtreme]

just because you think it’s should be 4 doesn’t make you a better human than anyone else.

It should be a life ban and I AM THE GREATEST PERSON OF ALL ON BIGFOOTY!