Recommitted Zach Merrett [UFA 2027] - Wanted a trade to Hawthorn, but it didn't get done

[Lore]

There we go, that's the clip:

 

[Philhawk]

Yeah if you’re meeting with the players and the coach and his wife then you are likely making a commitment to get players out and pay up. Like we have done with Neale and Dunkley etc.

Sam Mitchell and family literally met both of Allen and Harley Reid and their relevant family members (less so Reid).

 

[RCAB]

what's happened to Merret?

Butters would be handsomely remunerated in a team he would be leading (either by title or by status) back up the ladder

He may not be just looking at money

He may want:

-A club that is vying for success over one that "just moves up the ladder"

-better training facilities

-better medical department

-better fit with the coach/gameplan

-not a club like a Essendon that promises the world to its star player and then fails to deliver... like Merrett. Then when he wants to leave, they treat him like Judas.


Why would Butters choose that?

 

[Elixuh]

Hawks fans think that Merrett relationship with Essendon being untenable is helping lower his trade value.

If Merrett and Essendon relationship can’t be fixed, and hawthorn don’t pony up in the trade, Merrett might prefer to play at another club rather than Essendon creating a bidding war for him.

I don’t think this is the case but I don’t see how all of sudden hawks are gonna get him cheap because of a couple of comments from players.

It doesn’t lower Merrett’s value at all. It is just Merrett playing the only card he has.

 

[Elixuh]

Sam Mitchell and family literally met both of Allen and Harley Reid and their relevant family members (less so Reid).

Neither of whom requested a move to Hawthorn. What’s your point?

 

[danster168]

Just like Melbourne and Petracca, I expect something like this:

Club statement: 'Zac expressed to us his desire to win premierships, something that we expect from our captain. Zac understands that he is a required player and he is committed to setting standards and helping the Essendon football club return up the ladder. He is excited for the upcoming pre-season'

 

[BIGHAWK23]

Just like Melbourne and Petracca, I expect something like this:

Club statement: 'Zac expressed to us his desire to win premierships, something that we expect from our captain. Zac understands that he is a required player and he is committed to setting standards and helping the Essendon football club return up the ladder. He is excited for the upcoming pre-season'

And yet

It won’t

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Hawks fans think that Merrett relationship with Essendon being untenable is helping lower his trade value.

If Merrett and Essendon relationship can’t be fixed, and hawthorn don’t pony up in the trade, Merrett might prefer to play at another club rather than Essendon creating a bidding war for him.

I don’t think this is the case but I don’t see how all of sudden hawks are gonna get him cheap because of a couple of comments from players.

It is lowering his price, because questioning his character, his leadership, his buy in is doing exactly that, which is why I think you will not see Essendon or its players fire any more broadsides at the Merrett camp.

Bidding wars are a fantasy continually dreamt up by fans losing a player. They don’t happen

No player manager worth a pinch of shit wants their player put through that sort of indecisive landscape.

Merrett will(has) have his eye on where he wants to go. His manager will work in the background to understand how this trade could work and will eventually declare where he wants to go when they feel like the trade is completely workable.
They will be an advocate for both clubs involved as well as the player, working on making sure that the trade will eventuate.

 

[Philhawk]

Neither of whom requested a move to Hawthorn. What’s your point?

You literally just said that if your family has met the coaches, you’ve made a commitment to them. Neither us nor Merrett have committed to each other. His agent leaked it. Onus isn’t on Hawthorn to get a deal done at all costs. It’s for Essendon to extricate themselves from this shitshow of their own making.

 

[Elixuh]

You literally just said that if your family has met the coaches, you’ve made a commitment to them. Neither us nor Merrett have committed to each other. His agent leaked it. Onus isn’t on Hawthorn to get a deal done at all costs. It’s for Essendon to extricate themselves from this shitshow of their own making.

In the context of the Hawthorn bros comments in this thread yes. There are more than one Melbourne club competing who have capital to get Merrett. If the Hawks are as keen as the Hawks bros in here suggest, then it is laughable that you think you’re not making a commitment to him to pay up to get him out.

You think Merrett would be blowing things up if Hawthorn weren’t committal lol?

 

[FootyGuru]

It is lowering his price, because questioning his character, his leadership, his buy in is doing exactly that, which is why I think you will not see Essendon or its players fire any more broadsides at the Merrett camp.

Bidding wars are a fantasy continually dreamt up by fans losing a player. They don’t happen

No player manager worth a pinch of shit wants their player put through that sort of indecisive landscape.

Merrett will(has) have his eye on where he wants to go. His manager will work in the background to understand how this trade could work and will eventually declare where he wants to go when they feel like the trade is completely workable.
They will be an advocate for both clubs involved as well as the player, working on making sure that the trade will eventuate.

other than the first paragraph I agree with you. None of that is lowering his price. Both Essendon and hawthorn know what you’re getting with Merrett.

It’s rare for a bidding war, but if hawthorn and Essendon can’t come up with a deal, Merrett might rather end up at another club over returning to Essendon. I doubt it’s the case, but if the relationship has soured as much as hawks fans say it has it necessarily doesn’t help your bidding power.

 

[Philhawk]

In the context of the Hawthorn bros comments in this thread yes. There are more than one Melbourne club competing who have capital to get Merrett. If the Hawks are as keen as the Hawks bros in here suggest, then it is laughable that you think you’re not making a commitment to him to pay up to get him out.

You think Merrett would be blowing things up if Hawthorn weren’t committal lol?

You’re mistaking interest with commitment.

One is in our control, the other isn’t.

We had a meeting. We didn’t leak it days out from a final. His manager did in response to the Essendon board deliberately (and unnecessarily) putting out that he wouldn’t be traded at all costs.

There’s a price for everyone. Essendon fans might think it’s around the 2 1st rounders mark, at which point we’ll likely say no thanks and leave Essendon to pick up the pieces of their own making.

 

[MasterSamurai]

We have one or two more irons in the fire. Zack privately will have to commit to Hawthorn in the coming week as we need to move on . He isn't the be all end all for us. But, some journo is adamant that Zack has told those close to him he's all in on Hawthorn. So, maybe he has already let us know in private.
But, the Hawks are not resting, is all I'll say.

 

[Elixuh]

You’re mistaking interest with commitment.

One is in our control, the other isn’t.

We had a meeting. We didn’t leak it days out from a final. His manager did in response to the Essendon board deliberately (and unnecessarily) putting out that he wouldn’t be traded at all costs.

There’s a price for everyone. Essendon fans might think it’s around the 2 1st rounders mark, at which point we’ll likely say no thanks and leave Essendon to pick up the pieces of their own making.

2 firsts is the base of fair value…that isn’t overs.

A commitment doesn’t mean you’ll 100% get the player as you can’t anticipate what the other club will do. But it does mean you’re not going to be trying to ‘win the trade’ and will have to pony up to get it done.

 

[Philhawk]

2 firsts is the base of fair value…that isn’t overs.

A commitment doesn’t mean you’ll 100% get the player as you can’t anticipate what the other club will do. But it does mean you’re not going to be trying to ‘win the trade’ and will have to pony up to get it done.

I was prob a tad harsh by saying that isn’t the mark. I expect it’ll be pick 8 and the Worpel compensation pick (19), plus something else thrown in as a sweetener (F2).

Essendon have to give their fans some red meat to celebrate the “win” after all.

 

[Saints43]

Hawks fans think that Merrett relationship with Essendon being untenable is helping lower his trade value.

If Merrett and Essendon relationship can’t be fixed, and hawthorn don’t pony up in the trade, Merrett might prefer to play at another club rather than Essendon creating a bidding war for him.

I don’t think this is the case but I don’t see how all of sudden hawks are gonna get him cheap because of a couple of comments from players.

This looks similar to when Footscray slagged off Stringer on the way out and then thought you could then ask for top whack.
Essendon have had a tantrum and shown their hand. Merrett can't stay.

 

[FootyGuru]

I was prob a tad harsh by saying that isn’t the mark. I expect it’ll be pick 8 and the Worpel compensation pick (19), plus something else thrown in as a sweetener (F2).

Essendon have to give their fans some red meat to celebrate the “win” after all.

Provided Essendon get fair compensation. I think it’ll be a win/win for both clubs.

 

[FootyGuru]

This looks similar to when Footscray slagged off Stringer on the way out and then thought you could then ask for top whack.
Essendon have had a tantrum and shown their hand. Merrett can't stay.

Comparing the Merrett situation to stringers is laughable.

All I’m saying is that if it’s true and the bridges are burnt with Essendon,

Hawthorn then don’t pony up a fair trade.

Merrett might prefer end up at another club rather than going back to Essendon. Which opens the doors to other clubs.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

other than the first paragraph I agree with you. None of that is lowering his price. Both Essendon and hawthorn know what you’re getting with Merrett.

It’s rare for a bidding war, but if hawthorn and Essendon can’t come up with a deal, Merrett might rather end up at another club over returning to Essendon. I doubt it’s the case, but if the relationship has soured as much as hawks fans say it has it necessarily doesn’t help your bidding power.

If you can find another club that will meet your demands of two first round draft picks and a super star player…… Go for it!

1. I do not think any of the other clubs fans sprouting that B.S would support their own club paying that for Merrett. Nor do I think there clubs would do it.

2. I do not believe Merrett or his manager will agree to it.

3. Remember you want to attract future talent and they’re watching how you treat your players, even a disgruntled captain.

4. I suspect the Hawks will be the only the team willing to pay a little overs in compensation as ZM has nominated them. * Correction via media appears the Hawks will be the team he nominates.

Good luck!

 

[Matthew Jelley]

I agree, it will be just enough to get him as he wants to leave
Would be madness to trade a gun ruck

Matthew Jelley I’m not sure why that’s funny?

Hawthorn don’t have to trade for Merrett, they’ll give up what they deem fair, and what they think they have cover for losing.

Meek ain’t it.

 

[DapperDon]

This looks similar to when Footscray slagged off Stringer on the way out and then thought you could then ask for top whack.
Essendon have had a tantrum and shown their hand. Merrett can't stay.

They couldn't be further apart.

Dogs wanted Stringer gone
Dons don't want Merrett gone

If Hawks have been working on this for a couple of months then they have the plan to get the trade done. It won't be 3 firsts like Essendon fans want, but it wont be a couple of Box Hill players and a pick either.

 

[FootyGuru]

If you can find another club that will meet your demands of two first round draft picks and a super star player…… Go for it!

1. I do not think any of the other clubs fans sprouting that B.S would support their own club paying that for Merrett. Nor do I think there clubs would do it.

2. I do not believe Merrett or his manager will agree to it.

3. Remember you want to attract future talent and they’re watching how you treat your players, even a disgruntled captain.

4. I suspect the Hawks will be the only the team willing to pay a little overs in compensation as ZM has nominated them.

Good luck!

1. 2 frp is the bones of the trade. Maybe a steak knives player.

2. So hawthorn don’t pay fair value Essendon say no. What happens to Merrett?
He either stays or he decides that he’d rather go to x club rather than back to bombers.

3. This isn’t a threat, because it would be Merrett breaking the contract. It’s also the managers role to ensure that the bones of a deal is in place before a player of the ilk of Merrett nominates a club.
4. Merrett has not nominated a club and is still meeting with pies and dogs that we know of.

 

[katana]

would happily take 9, F2 and hurstwaite. move on. of course essendon being essendon won't.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

They couldn't be further apart.

Dogs wanted Stringer gone
Dons don't want Merrett gone

If Hawks have been working on this for a couple of months then they have the plan to get the trade done. It won't be 3 firsts like Essendon fans want, but it wont be a couple of Box Hill players and a pick either.

Reeves has the runs on the board. If the ruck rules revert to the old rules he would be a number 1. If he stays it will be quiet the battle between and Meek!

The only reason the other players are being linked to you, is it is rumoured the bombers have spoke to them.

 

[CaptainWorpedo]

1. 2 frp is the bones of the trade. Maybe a steak knives player.

2. So hawthorn don’t pay fair value Essendon say no. What happens to Merrett?
He either stays or he decides that he’d rather go to x club rather than back to bombers.

3. This isn’t a threat, because it would be Merrett breaking the contract. It’s also the managers role to ensure that the bones of a deal is in place before a player of the ilk of Merrett nominates a club.
4. Merrett has not nominated a club and is still meeting with pies and dogs that we know of.

What the Bombers and his management think is a fair deal is different to the fans.

You aren’t to clever not cashing in a disgruntled player. It’s a perfect example of why the bombers have crumbled in the last 20 odd years.

 

[Philhawk]

would happily take 9, F2 and hurstwaite. move on. of course essendon being essendon won't.

I still think this’ll be the bones of the deal. Possibly switching the F2 for Worpel compo (19)