I'm looking fwd to Scotty's presser. With what was reported a week ago and the pile on from the media. I hope i see a prickley but positive response from CS. I've loved how it's been about the hawk's this week with snippets from gryan and Atkins from the cats pov.
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Preview Prelim Final 25 - Geelong V Hawthorn Fri 19th Sept 2025 740pm @ MCG
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1. Winning it for Breust (Nick Watson)
2. Players have been shown the 2013 Prelim (Sam Mitchell)
3. Injuries don't matter when you've got a final to play, and "Gunners" hardly trains anyway (Sam Mitchell)
4. update We are battle-hardened. (Sam Mitchell)
5. update Giath took an amazing mark during match simulation yesterday, a sign he is finding a way past his poor form (Herald Sun)
Suggested Cat response:
1. We're winning it for Trevor Poole
2. Players have been shown the team photo of 1963 premiers with "unknown player standing in for J Sharrock" and to visualise it is them.
3. Checkmate - we're going to name Toby Conway
4. We've played "Battle Hardened" on PS4
5. We've got an Amaze in Barrabool - can he find his way out of that?
1. Winning it for Breust (Nick Watson)
2. Players have been shown the 2013 Prelim (Sam Mitchell)
3. Injuries don't matter when you've got a final to play, and "Gunners" hardly trains anyway (Sam Mitchell)
4. update We are battle-hardened. (Sam Mitchell)
5. update Giath took an amazing mark during match simulation yesterday, a sign he is finding a way past his poor form (Herald Sun)
Suggested Cat response:
1. We're winning it for Trevor Poole
2. Players have been shown the team photo of 1963 premiers with "unknown player standing in for J Sharrock" and to visualise it is them.
3. Checkmate - we're going to name Toby Conway
4. We've played "Battle Hardened" on PS4
5. We've got an Amaze in Barrabool - can he find his way out of that?
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Neither do I; I may be in the minority but I always think we look better when injury prevents CS from selecting the overly tall side he seems enamoured with. Clark may still be finding his feet, but iirc he's done some handy things coming on as a sub rather than starting.
I am sure our improvement over the back end of the year has been due to two main factors:
- a completely different midfield plan (more players involved, tagging)
- selecting a more mobile team.
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If you go back and look at the pattern of sub players selected by Geelong I think it's unlikely that they'd go with Bews in a Prelim. If he plays (which I doubt) he'll start on the ground. He offers very little in the way of flexibility if we did have a player that needed subbing out. He can really only play in defence and in a lockdown role on a small forward.
Based on recent history I think the sub would more likely be a player that can add something to our midfield rotation or play in a few different roles. So I think it's more likely to be Knevitt / Clark / Bowes types.
Scott hasn't picked overly tall sides since about 2019-2020. Back then we'd run with Taylor, Henderson, Kolo and Henry in defence and then Hawkins, Esava and Rohan up forward. Blicavs and Menegola (who played tall) often on the wings.
Our best 22 the last few years consists of less talls.
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The benefit of Stanley is not so much in the ruck, but in giving us the flexibility to use Blicavs in other roles, and, specifically for those 2 teams, in negating the influence of Andrews or Moore, the role which he was 'training' in until Stanley went down.
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If Bews is selected it'll be because that have a set role in line for him
From there I think Humphries almost becomes the favourite for the sub role, especially if we've also got a defensive run with role lined up for O'Connor
Looking at our QF team, we ran with a defensive unit of: SDK, O'Sullivan, Henry, Stewart, O'Connor, Guthrie & Humphries, with Holmes & Martin in particular dropping back at times also,
If Bews comes in, are we then one defender too heavy without one of them being the sub? We'll already likely be rotating one of the bench, if Holmes starts behind the ball then it's one into the wing etc
A selection of Bews feels like we are almost forcing the sub to come from that group and Humphries is the most flexible of them
Depends on the definition of tall; I suppose I specifically had the omission of O Henry in mind. I loved the decision not to go like-for-like with Stanley, so your point is definitely true.
Some of those lumbering teams in the 19-20 era .. sheesh.
IF we happen to win, and IF the lions also win I would definitely be playing Stanley. Frees Blicavs up to be a nuisance for Andrews. I wouldn’t want to rely on Neale getting the job done alone on the big stage.
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Yeah, nothing to lose at all.
Only a spot in the GF and clear favouritism for the flag.
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They are sooo desperate to play the underdog.
Like, no! You're Hawthorn, you win a Premiership every decade. You don't get to use that card, especially in a Prelim lol
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It's quite strange. It's actually a loser mentality. I'm starting to come around to joe444 way of thinking. This might not be as close as I thought.
They're worried.
That really shows the perils of judging a person from afar. Conversely, I did some work for our Club, and over time found one ex player to be an unlikeable character, to say the least. No Club is spared one, maybe we just evaluate players footy.
There is more chance of me being the sub than the team not treating them like a fully fit side.
Kill them.
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Well in good news Dazbroncos won't have an issue watching the game now.
In bad news he lost his job.
In bad news he lost his job.
doesn't matter how often we play them, nothing quite like that 24 hours leading into a prelim, that unnerving mixture of excitement, fear, pride, hope, anxiety. Feels like its even more pronounced this year simply by virtue of who our opponent is; the mere thought of losing to them in another knock out final is enough to make me uncontrollably shake.
I know we are the better team this year and if we play our way we should win well, but Prelims are strange beasts as we all know too well.
Godspeed my fellow Cats brothers and sisters, we'll see you on the other side (hopefully in another GF!)
I know we are the better team this year and if we play our way we should win well, but Prelims are strange beasts as we all know too well.
Godspeed my fellow Cats brothers and sisters, we'll see you on the other side (hopefully in another GF!)
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He's fit, he'll play.
Press conference post QF Scotty said Rhys is integral to our side.
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For fellow train folk like me
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Fans travelling on the Geelong Line to the Geelong and Hawthorn preliminary final at the MCG on Friday night will have access to seven additional services.
Before the game, an additional service will depart Waurn Ponds 3.50pm, while additional services will depart Wyndham Vale at 5.19pm and 5.46pm to further boost capacity along the line.
In addition, two services that normally originate at South Geelong will start from Waurn Ponds at 3.20pm and 3.41pm, giving passengers more options.
After the game, there will be four additional services to Waurn Ponds, departing Southern Cross at 11.12pm, 11.21pm, 11.45pm and 12.03am. Another three services will run with extra carriages.
These extra services are in addition to trains running approximately every 20 minutes on the Geelong Line throughout the day seven days a week.
Passengers can travel between Southern Cross Station and the MCG on a Metro Trains service to either Jolimont or Richmond stations.
V/Line Executive Director Operations Sussanah Osborne: “There are plenty of options to get fans to and from the footy in Melbourne on Friday and Saturday, with extra services before and after the game.”
“Services will be popular as fans head to these matches so we encourage passengers to check the V/Line website and plan their travel in advance.”
The regional fare cap means passengers will pay only $11 full fare and $5.50 concession to get to the MCG and home again on Friday for same day travel.
Weekend fares are even lower with passengers paying $7.60 full fare and $3.80 concession.
Passengers are encouraged to plan ahead by visiting the footy page of the V/Line website for a full list of service times and travel information.
Fans may also consider altering their travel times by making the most of pre and post match activities in the city.
Check out Geelong's Finals Hub for more information.
Geelong Services
Before the game:
The 3.30pm South Geelong to Southern Cross service is altered to originate from Waurn Ponds at 3.20pm. This train will stop at Marshall, South Geelong, Geelong, North Geelong, North Shore, Lara, Little River, Wyndham Vale, Tarneit, Deer Park, Sunshine, Footscray, arriving at Southern Cross at 4.40pm.
Additional train departs Waurn Ponds at 3.50pm. This train will stop at Marshall, South Geelong, Geelong, North Geelong, North Shore, Corio, Lara, Little River, Wyndham Vale, Tarneit, Deer Park, Ardeer, Sunshine, Footscray, arriving at Southern Cross at 5.05pm.
The 4.10pm South Geelong to Southern Cross service is altered to originate from Waurn Ponds at 4.00pm. This train will stop at Marshall, South Geelong, Geelong, North Geelong, North Shore, Lara Little River, Wyndham Vale, Tarneit, Deer Park, Sunshine, Footscray, arriving at Southern Cross at 5.20pm.
Additional train departs Wyndham Vale at 5.20pm. This train will stop at Tarneit, arriving at Southern Cross at 5.48pm.
Additional train departs Wyndham Vale at 5.46pm. This train will stop at Tarneit, arriving at Southern Cross at 6.23pm.
After the game:
Additional train departs Southern Cross at 11.12pm. This train will stop at Tarneit, Wyndham Vale, Little River, Lara, Corio, North Shore, North Geelong, Geelong, South Geelong, Marshall, arriving at Waurn Ponds at 12.33am.
Additional train departs Southern Cross at 11.21pm. This train will stop at Tarneit, Wyndham Vale, Little River, Lara, Corio, North Shore, North Geelong, Geelong, South Geelong, Marshall, arriving at Waurn Ponds at 12.41am.
Additional train departs Southern Cross at 11.45pm. This train will stop at Tarneit, Wyndham Vale, Little River, Lara, Corio, North Shore, North Geelong, Geelong, South Geelong, Marshall, arriving at Waurn Ponds at 1.02am.
Additional train departs Southern Cross at 12.03am. This train will stop at Tarneit, Wyndham Vale, Little River, Lara, Corio, North Shore, North Geelong, Geelong, South Geelong, Marshall, arriving at Waurn Ponds at 1.24am.
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V/Line Providing Extra Services for Fans Heading to Geelong's Preliminary Final
Fans travelling on the Geelong Line to the Geelong and Hawthorn preliminary final at the MCG on Friday night will have access to seven additional services---
Fans travelling on the Geelong Line to the Geelong and Hawthorn preliminary final at the MCG on Friday night will have access to seven additional services.
Before the game, an additional service will depart Waurn Ponds 3.50pm, while additional services will depart Wyndham Vale at 5.19pm and 5.46pm to further boost capacity along the line.
In addition, two services that normally originate at South Geelong will start from Waurn Ponds at 3.20pm and 3.41pm, giving passengers more options.
After the game, there will be four additional services to Waurn Ponds, departing Southern Cross at 11.12pm, 11.21pm, 11.45pm and 12.03am. Another three services will run with extra carriages.
These extra services are in addition to trains running approximately every 20 minutes on the Geelong Line throughout the day seven days a week.
Passengers can travel between Southern Cross Station and the MCG on a Metro Trains service to either Jolimont or Richmond stations.
V/Line Executive Director Operations Sussanah Osborne: “There are plenty of options to get fans to and from the footy in Melbourne on Friday and Saturday, with extra services before and after the game.”
“Services will be popular as fans head to these matches so we encourage passengers to check the V/Line website and plan their travel in advance.”
The regional fare cap means passengers will pay only $11 full fare and $5.50 concession to get to the MCG and home again on Friday for same day travel.
Weekend fares are even lower with passengers paying $7.60 full fare and $3.80 concession.
Passengers are encouraged to plan ahead by visiting the footy page of the V/Line website for a full list of service times and travel information.
Fans may also consider altering their travel times by making the most of pre and post match activities in the city.
Check out Geelong's Finals Hub for more information.
Geelong Services
Before the game:
The 3.30pm South Geelong to Southern Cross service is altered to originate from Waurn Ponds at 3.20pm. This train will stop at Marshall, South Geelong, Geelong, North Geelong, North Shore, Lara, Little River, Wyndham Vale, Tarneit, Deer Park, Sunshine, Footscray, arriving at Southern Cross at 4.40pm.
Additional train departs Waurn Ponds at 3.50pm. This train will stop at Marshall, South Geelong, Geelong, North Geelong, North Shore, Corio, Lara, Little River, Wyndham Vale, Tarneit, Deer Park, Ardeer, Sunshine, Footscray, arriving at Southern Cross at 5.05pm.
The 4.10pm South Geelong to Southern Cross service is altered to originate from Waurn Ponds at 4.00pm. This train will stop at Marshall, South Geelong, Geelong, North Geelong, North Shore, Lara Little River, Wyndham Vale, Tarneit, Deer Park, Sunshine, Footscray, arriving at Southern Cross at 5.20pm.
Additional train departs Wyndham Vale at 5.20pm. This train will stop at Tarneit, arriving at Southern Cross at 5.48pm.
Additional train departs Wyndham Vale at 5.46pm. This train will stop at Tarneit, arriving at Southern Cross at 6.23pm.
After the game:
Additional train departs Southern Cross at 11.12pm. This train will stop at Tarneit, Wyndham Vale, Little River, Lara, Corio, North Shore, North Geelong, Geelong, South Geelong, Marshall, arriving at Waurn Ponds at 12.33am.
Additional train departs Southern Cross at 11.21pm. This train will stop at Tarneit, Wyndham Vale, Little River, Lara, Corio, North Shore, North Geelong, Geelong, South Geelong, Marshall, arriving at Waurn Ponds at 12.41am.
Additional train departs Southern Cross at 11.45pm. This train will stop at Tarneit, Wyndham Vale, Little River, Lara, Corio, North Shore, North Geelong, Geelong, South Geelong, Marshall, arriving at Waurn Ponds at 1.02am.
Additional train departs Southern Cross at 12.03am. This train will stop at Tarneit, Wyndham Vale, Little River, Lara, Corio, North Shore, North Geelong, Geelong, South Geelong, Marshall, arriving at Waurn Ponds at 1.24am.
V/Line Providing Extra Services for Fans Heading to Geelong's Preliminary Final
Fans travelling on the Geelong Line to the Geelong and Hawthorn preliminary final at the MCG on Friday night will have access to seven additional services
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