Official Club Stuff Carlton Academy - Next Gen & Father/Son/Daughter Discussion II

[CrippaTheGoat9]

 

[carlton_99]

Who is going to trade us a 26 1st round pick for a Tassie year pick (unless Tassie falls though of course)?

I don't think they will this year because teams don't know the compensation picks Tasi are going to receive. But once that becomes clear teams might do it. And we can even trade multiple picks for a single first rounder if needed.

Just looking at draft points (and assuming the discount gets scrapped) to match a bid at pick 3 you need roughly 12 and 14. I think it's doable. If he goes pick 1 it becomes more difficult but teams don't normally bid at Pick 1.

 

[Stamos]

I don't think they will this year because teams don't know the compensation picks Tasi are going to receive. But once that becomes clear teams might do it. And we can even trade multiple picks for a single first rounder if needed.

Just looking at draft points (and assuming the discount gets scrapped) to match a bid at pick 3 you need roughly 12 and 14. I think it's doable. If he goes pick 1 it becomes more difficult but teams don't normally bid at Pick 1.

Look at the post above yours

 

[carlton_99]

Look at the post above yours

What did I miss?

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

As long as he doesn't go #1 we should be fine. With 3 years worth of draft picks and us likely not being all too hot next year we will be able to get him.

Stupid after the Pies and Lions etc got all their guns for a bunch of 3rd and 4th round picks but I'll take it as long as we end up with Cody.

 

[Stamos]

Cody needs to tank next season

 

[Stamos]

What did I miss?

Are you blocking CrippaTheGoat9?

 

[bluebaggerjuls]

wouldnt mind taking cody out of the traditional afl talent development pathways and just playing school footy or echuca all while training with carlton instead

 

[bigdog43]

Providing the rules a week or so before trade period is peak AFL. The most incompetent league in Australia.

 

[carlton_99]

Are you blocking CrippaTheGoat9?

No I can see the post. But it says 2 and 12 as an example. I assumed that still meant two picks to match a bid

 

[Stamos]

No I can see the post. But it says 2 and 12 as an example. I assumed that still meant two picks to match a bid

Yes, one of them being pick 2 if he goes 1.
How often does pick 2 get traded?

 

[blues4flag]

There are so many easy solutions to the problem. The AFL have already put in fixes that should help significantly. If thats not enough:

• can't match a player with more than 2 picks
• if it's a top 5 player, need to match with a pick within 5 of where they are taken, dropping down to within 10 picks by pick 20, then just points after that.

Either or both of those solutions will significantly help and force teams to trade for real capital if they've a player at the pointy end.

Who do I speak to about my commission?

 

[carlton_99]

Yes, one of them being pick 2 if he goes 1.
How often does pick 2 get traded?

It says "as an example" so I thought Cal was just giving a situation which could work. Are you saying you have to use the pick following wherever the bid comes plus something else? If so that would make it far more difficult

 

[Stamos]

It says "as an example" so I thought Cal was just giving a situation which could work. Are you saying you have to use the pick following wherever the bid comes plus something. If so that would make it far more difficult

I'm saying it's going to be bloody hard to match for Cody if you can only use 2 picks.

 

[carlton_99]

I'm saying it's going to be bloody hard to match for Cody if you can only use 2 picks.

Yeh it will be. Hopefully bid comes outside of the top 2 which makes it a bit easier

 

[DrTrain]

Good news. We get Cody.

 

[toddkurnski]

It's not really common sense doing a truckload of work to introduce new rules, and them changing them before anyone gets to see how they actually work.

Yep, many predicted what was going to happen... make statements about a lock out, then only implement something less drastic, and look how its worked, pencil case in point seems happy and that this is common sense. Which I imagine is how AFL wanted people to feel.

Yeah, nah... easy manipulation to make the decision seem like the best choice by making all the options much much worse.

THANK YOU AFL YOU ARE SO GREAT AND WISE, THANK YOU FOR CODY!!! /s

Always great to be a Club that manages stumble into these rule changes after other teams get the advantage. I actually agree, the rules were terrible and needed to be addressed, just sucks we seem to be a team that manages to stub our little toe on the edge of these rules time and again.

2006 Priority picks removed, well done to the Pies getting Pendlebury and Thomas with that rule the year before... by tanking
2012 the AFL scrapped automatic thresholds and made it discretionary, thankfully we were great after that rule change... 2015-2018 was fantastic and we did not need any assistance. I think we won 5 or six more games than Fitzroy over the same period, which is not bad but not great since they last played in the comp in the 1990's so a bit of an unfair comparison.
2019-2023 After the above and Carlton became mediocre AFL introduces ongoing special-assistance packages by discretion, we got a couple local league players, GC the very next year with a better win/loss record got the motherload... cool cool cool. WCE to get assist this year thank god, they have been a rabble for 25 years
2025, now more DVI changes after ladder leaders and Preliminary and Grand Final frquent attendees get huge discounts on generational talents.

And obviously 2002, well those kind of sanctions have never been applied again to any team, even one that injected 34 players with PEDs. The clubs **** up, but certainly the AFL have never come close to doing that again.

In conclusion, we have sucked hard and have been in the bottom quartile for well run clubs for 25 years, we also seem to manage to collide with AFL bullshit frequently. Thank you.

 

[Stamos]

Good news. We get Cody.

That's not guaranteed, and if we do we'll pay through the nose.

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

Good news. We get Cody.

Doesn’t sound like we do going by the replies in the F/S thread …

 

[Rugged Blue Bagger]

No father-son draft lockout, but AFL set to tighten bidding rules

Clubs will still be able to match bids on father-son and Academy talent in 2026 and beyond but the League is make them pay up for the privilege

www.afl.com.au

No mention of only being able to use 2x picks. Are some assuming this based off Cals use of pick #2 & #12 ?

 

[Crippa#9]

We'll get Cody...there's no stress now BUT - if he remains pick 1 or 2, we're gonna have to pay heavily for example and use ALL of the below in some capacity to ensure we have the picks to match a pick 1 bid:

*trade out this year's top 10 (TDK compo) for a 2026 First round pick.
*use our own 2026 first round pick (assuming we finish top 8)
*Involve our 2027 first round pick

 

[toddkurnski]

We'll get Cody BUT we're gonna have to pay heavily for example:

trade out this year's top 10 (TDK compo) for a 2026 First round pick PLUS use our own 2026 first round pick PLUS use our 2027 first round pick to get him.

If that is true, why bother? Are you saying the AFL will actually make it more expensive than the actual position they are bid on at? Say Cody is bid on at pick 3, you need more than pick 3's points to get him.

Yeah, tanks Cody, tanks a lot.

 

[JrDr]

Sound like they are adding a 20% loading on matching a father son bid.

Pick 1 - 3000 points
Pick 2 - 2481 + Pick 12 - 1140 = 3641

Could also use 3+8 or 4+6

 

[bluebaggerjuls]

port might be screwed. Have no first round pick this year and will have multiple top 5 talents across 2026 and 2027.

 

[Chism]

We'll get Cody BUT we're gonna have to pay heavily for example and use ALL of the below in some capacity:

*trade out this year's top 10 (TDK compo) for a 2026 First round pick.
*use our own 2026 first round (assuming we finish top 8)
*Use our 2027 first round pick

We can only use 2 picks to match any bid.

This prevents steak knives being used like Lions did and Pies throwing in multiple later picks to get points.