40 disposals a few weeks ago says he is. He and Lalor can go tandemRobey a mid?
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40 disposals a few weeks ago says he is. He and Lalor can go tandemRobey a mid?
Disagree, stay fit and they'll be better than people think.Essendoom is the only team id take their F1.
Guaranteed bottom 4 next year IMO
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One major problem Essendon have is Scott as coach.Disagree, stay fit and they'll be better than people think.
Ridley, McKay, Reid, Redman, Roberts, is a solid back 5, not sure who their go to 6th will be. They can get a cheap new ruck from somewhere until Bryan comes back, if Merrett stays their midfield still looks alright with Caldwell, Durham, a fit again Parish, Duursma, and they might trade someone in. Forward line dangerous with Caddy, Kako, Langford, Wright, and two new smalls coming in the draft. Before all the injuries they were 6-4 and pushed the hot Pies on Anzac day, they were leading at one stage of the last qtr yeah?
Still to get Nic Martin back from his ACL too.
If we try to get the Bomber's F1 it could end up being pick 8-13 as easily as a top 4 pick.
I think we made such a masterstroke trading for North Melbourne's future 1st, but we also got a little lucky that they were as bad as they were, I wasn't expecting pick 3, maybe pick 8 or so.Re: splitting a pick vs taking the best two available... I think you have to factor in the type of players and overall strength of the draft. General feel is that there is some "nice" talent around in this draft, but probably not a lot of players you can project as game breaking, match winners. Robey is a good example of a player worth a risk, cos if he works out, he is that type who could tear a game apart on the regular. Who else fits the mould at the top? Sharp seems solid if not remarkable. CDT big on potential, but high risk. Duursma strikes me as a Goddard/Deledio/Watts type, who should be a good size, versatile, athletic AFL player. Probably an underwhelming pick 1 IMO, but will no doubt have a long and successful AFL career.
But when considering the "best of the rest", do you want more than a neat half back when taking a top 5 pick? Or a nippy small forward (let's face it, Dovaston isn't likely to be Wizard level good). Those might be types we need, but do you reach with a top 5 pick for a Taylor/Grjl/Dovaston/Lindsday? Or do you split pick 4 to a later 1st, and future 1st, knowing you get to fill that list need with the best available of those types, and stockpile draft capital for next year either for an Armstrong, or a player trade, or take to the draft.
Intriguing decision to weigh up.
I guess that’s the thing, with pick 4 you need to be taking best available. So it means potentially taking a player you may not see a role for. But if you can get a mid 1st pick, knowing you like a handful that you rate similarly, fill a more immediate need AND give you additional draft capital for next year, it could be tempting.I think we made such a masterstroke trading for North Melbourne's future 1st, but we also got a little lucky that they were as bad as they were, I wasn't expecting pick 3, maybe pick 8 or so.
Why would we now waste that good fortune by splitting the pick for speculative players later in the draft?
We just need to use picks 2 and 3 (or 3 and 4 depending on West Coast) and not get cute.
Robey and Sharp or Robey and someone with a bit more pace, and man we'll be looking good in a few more years.
Where is this absolute nonsense about trading Hopper coming from? Just a wish or someone made something up? He’ll be at Richmond next season without doubtSharp, Lalor, Smillie, Robey fill 1(+) forward spot + midfield + bench time
That leaves another couple of rotations available.
KMac, Hotton, Campbell, MRJ all fit as first receiver. Plus whoever else we can pick up.
If we do go hard for mids this year, then we have to stop getting them.
It'll be interesting. In a few years TT and Hopper (if he doesn't go this year) will be gone and we would want a hand over to a mature midfield. If we get it right we'll have a complete midfield that is both young and mature at once. So do we over stuff the midfield now to help them mature together? Or do we spread it out, but likely not have acess to such high end talent?
To keep it on topic - future firsts are going to be at a premium this year because of the FS/academy changes, everyone will want one so it’ll be a sellers market. We won’t get as good as a return if we trade out for one. I’d be reviewing the market to see if we can trade our future first and if we can get a big haul from it then strongly consider it (I say this without knowing the strength of the FA/academy draftees for next year) - especially if it means we can pick up 2-3 extra outside players in the teens.
I guess that’s the thing, with pick 4 you need to be taking best available. So it means potentially taking a player you may not see a role for. But if you can get a mid 1st pick, knowing you like a handful that you rate similarly, fill a more immediate need AND give you additional draft capital for next year, it could be tempting.
In our current predicament, there's no way I'd be looking at trading our future 1st, even if it was 2 first rounders this year.
If Port don't get Cochrane as a NGA and with Walker at the top of the draft rankings as well, I wouldn't risk it. Reckon we could sit and wait to see what happens.
That Dougie Cochrane looks to be an absolute star in the making, I actually think he could be better than Walker.
What announcement is that? Nothing on AFL siteWith the announcement today there is no way a kid whose father played AFL will qualify for NGA. Both our clubs should keep our F1, Cochrane will be available.
That backline is not solid and that forward line is not dangerousDisagree, stay fit and they'll be better than people think.
Ridley, McKay, Reid, Redman, Roberts, is a solid back 5, not sure who their go to 6th will be. They can get a cheap new ruck from somewhere until Bryan comes back, if Merrett stays their midfield still looks alright with Caldwell, Durham, a fit again Parish, Duursma, and they might trade someone in. Forward line dangerous with Caddy, Kako, Langford, Wright, and two new smalls coming in the draft. Before all the injuries they were 6-4 and pushed the hot Pies on Anzac day, they were leading at one stage of the last qtr yeah?
Still to get Nic Martin back from his ACL too.
If we try to get the Bomber's F1 it could end up being pick 8-13 as easily as a top 4 pick.
Tiger71 said it was something he had heard, and it wasn't going away. I think he said something like 'I don't understand it'. So just a rumour from within the player managers.Where is this absolute nonsense about trading Hopper coming from? Just a wish or someone made something up? He’ll be at Richmond next season without doubt
we are not Geelong and they had a different agenda with different time horizonsThis is professional sport.
You make logical decisions, not the simple decision because it's easier.
Geelong traded down 1 spot from Caddy to COS, and got a pick in the 30s for sliding back, that became Shaun Mannagh.
If we feel we can get a superior net outcome from 2 players than 1 we will split a pick.
Agree but think you could add WC.Essendoom is the only team id take their F1.
Guaranteed bottom 4 next year IMO
Greeves and Smillie is a lazy comparison.
Smillie more combative and more skilled. Greeves moves around the ground better and gets easier footy in transition.They are both tall. Reckon Smillie is a bit more ... everything.
If Bombers lose Merrett they are almost a lock for bottom-4, as Nic Martin won't be back until late in the season. That's their best 2 x players gonesky. As well as Draper. There's no way I can see them winning more than 7 x games without Merrett or Martin. The bottom could fall out of the joint real quick.Disagree, stay fit and they'll be better than people think.
Ridley, McKay, Reid, Redman, Roberts, is a solid back 5, not sure who their go to 6th will be. They can get a cheap new ruck from somewhere until Bryan comes back, if Merrett stays their midfield still looks alright with Caldwell, Durham, a fit again Parish, Duursma, and they might trade someone in. Forward line dangerous with Caddy, Kako, Langford, Wright, and two new smalls coming in the draft. Before all the injuries they were 6-4 and pushed the hot Pies on Anzac day, they were leading at one stage of the last qtr yeah?
Still to get Nic Martin back from his ACL too.
If we try to get the Bomber's F1 it could end up being pick 8-13 as easily as a top 4 pick.