Rumour Bluemour Discussion XL - ‘Silly Season’ in full swing 😱

[Aphrodite]

#BUMP from February


Re: 'Alleged' rumours resurfacing ...

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Thanks all!

 

[Tommy Alvin]

FWIW I agree with you. 2 first rounders and an A Lister for a disgruntled key forward, late 20s and coming off a shit year ... nah. Charlie has done us no favours here in terms of value. His value can only go down going forward. We have to trade him.

100% agree with this comment. Charlie is 29 and he has spent a large chunk of his career on the sidelines. He isn't committed to Carlton, so there is little point holding him back from a trade.

My only fear is that we do need some ready to go 25 to 27 year olds to protect the emerging talent from over exposure in their development years.

TA

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Just to add, Charlie has opened a new spa in Ocean Grove so I would suspect he's keen to be closer to it daily/weekly.

Torquay

 

[Blue_Fusion]

knew matey was cooked and not serious when he rode his bike to a game back of calf awareness

This! 100% this... not to mention, riding in a pair of slippers... you would think at the very least wear some proper footwear... not an ounce of professionalism...

I said at the time he was taking the piss...

 

[BennyGFunk]

If this is one of his problems he can **** right off...

DUI before the draft, we still gave him the chance. Then he did his knee playing basketball and slipping on the stairs... club stuck by him, offered him a mega deal. Then he declared himself fit for the ef last year... Vossy still put his health first and didn't play him.

Now we're mishandling him?

I reckon he's got the shits we let TDK walk, he can see the trajectory in terms of team performance (although could argue he's big contributor to that) and wants out. Plus manager probably got in his ear about earning more $. I don't for 1 second believe the "get out of Melbourne bubble" crap.

I'm glad this is happening though, I always wanted us to trade one of the millionaire club players and put it toward the future.

I looked back on a quote last year

Charlie was held back from playing EF against Brisbane after he’d declared himself fit

I wondered if there was resentment from that, shows the level of maturity I guess..

 

[ctwenty1]

I looked back on a quote last year

Charlie was held back from playing EF against Brisbane after he’d declared himself fit

I wondered if there was resentment from that, shows the level of maturity I guess..

hmmm

that speaks to good injury management by the club to me....

 

[DrTrain]

Someone mentioned it previously, but one option next year is to trade our 2027 F1 to Essendon for their 2026 F1.

That would give us two first rounders for Cody next year and two first rounders to Essendon for Bewick in 2027.

This would be mutually beneficial and deal with early round 1 bids on both kids.

My concern is port would also want to do this trade. Who would * prefer to deal with?

 

[Blue_Fusion]

My concern is port would also want to do this trade. Who would * prefer to deal with?

Not if Cochrane isn't available to them via academy... they'll likely need pick 1.

Also, Port will likely finish higher than us in 2027 as well.

 

[The Bighouse]

Fitness staff mishandling his injuries. Wright coming in and letting the players know the gravy train is over. I just don't see what Voss could have done considering how easy he has been on Charlie, even when his standards dropped.

The last one is the fans. We called out a lot of conditional stuff last season.

Isn’t the rumour that MV & CC hardly talk?
Leadership group would have regular meetings. Captain & coach talk daily by the sounds.
A couple of things noted;
Charlie was on Players and said something about meetings and his dislike of them
Doch mentioned CC in his farewell speech and CC in meetings

Just seems to be acting like an immature twat with limited responsibility expected from his football contract.

 

[CFC_#17]

I've been following this thread for obvious reasons and noting the speculation as to why Curnow wants out.

Could it be as simple as the question I posed on the Swans Board?

No supporter (new or old club) wants to hear a player is simply moving for more money and so using the lifestyle excuse (even though it may have a degree of merit) is the lesser evil.

If I was the Swans I would not want him, as I could see him in a years time requesting a trade to the Cats.

 

[carlton_99]

I've been following this thread for obvious reasons and noting the speculation as to why Curnow wants out.

Could it be as simple as the question I posed on the Swans Board?

No supporter (new or old club) wants to hear a player is simply moving for more money and so using the lifestyle excuse (even though it may have a degree of merit) is the lesser evil.

Can't be him wanting more money surely. Media have been telling us he's willing to play for the Cats for a carton of Big Ms!!!

 

[BennyGFunk]

He was held back from playing EF against Brisbane after declaring himself fit to play..

I wondered if he held resentment for that.. perhaps along with some other things ONB discussed

I’d have thought Ed would have been encouraging him to stick fat with the blues

I guess money and your transient feelings and comfort are more important than loyalty and creating greatness for a club like Carlton

That’s the problem with players like him and SOS. Cracking the shits when it all gets too tough

Kudos to the likes of Crippa, weiters and Walshy for their commitment and their never give up attitudes…

We have an opportunity to right some wrongs next year, I really believe that and Charlie and others want to give up like wimps..

Good riddance

 

[SolGoodman]

I know Charlie is an adult, but where's big brother Ed in all of this?

A man that truly bled for this jumper, shame how Charlie turned out.

 

[RedFury]

For what it's worth, Cripps said last Friday night that he thought Charlie would probably stay because a deal that satisfies us wouldn't get done. He's probably just toeing the company line there, but thought I'd mention it.

 

[The Bighouse]

I looked back on a quote last year

Charlie was held back from playing EF against Brisbane after he’d declared himself fit

I wondered if there was resentment from that, shows the level of maturity I guess..

Could be valid sore point.

But he then bounced in with multiple off-season surgeries.

Ankle injury vs GWS and prob shouldn’t have played vs HFC where it went further south.

Club’s response “We’ve seen you play finals before, Charlie. Think it’s in our best interests that you don’t play in the EF”

 

[agro]

I reckon he's got the shits we let TDK walk, he can see the trajectory in terms of team performance (although could argue he's big contributor to that) and wants out. Plus manager probably got in his ear about earning more $. I don't for 1 second believe the "get out of Melbourne bubble" crap.

I reckon he cracked the shits when he realised TDK was going to be earning $800,000 a year more than him.

 

[RedFury]

What's with players that want to leave after the front-ended part of their contract? Is this actually a thing or just something people say ... surely the club's can indemnify themselves against this by writing it into contracts that if you leave (by player's request) while you're ahead of the curve, you pay the difference of (current pay - contract average) back?

 

[Juddrockz]

I know Charlie is an adult, but where's big brother Ed in all of this?

A man that truly bled for this jumper, shame how Charlie turned out.

Hanging around Bailey can't be helping. Loose cannon.

 

[The Bighouse]

I reckon he cracked the shits when he realised TDK was going to be earning $800,000 a year more than him.

There’s also the AFL marketing fund to share between 3 players per club.

If we do keep CC, we sure as hell won’t be offering to him, especially as he’s looking for pay cut to play AFL.

 

[blue healer]

hmmm

that speaks to good injury management by the club to me....

The same game we brought Doc back from a knee for, yep we sure can manage those injuries.

 

[Wickzki]

You can't say we didn't try /sigh

 

[RPCB]

Just to add, Charlie has opened a new spa in Ocean Grove so I would suspect he's keen to be closer to it daily/weekly.

Edit. Torquay*

Good for him.

He is 100% more likely to be pissed off to Gold Coast or Sydney if Geelong don’t blow us away with a package.

 

[ctwenty1]

The same game we brought Doc back from a knee for, yep we sure can manage those injuries.

he didnt break down did he?

we brought a lot of players back form injury that game

Charlie must have been really injured then

 

[Dramoth]

Bumping my post from a few weeks ago in light of Bailey Smith's post today.

Rumour - Bluemour Discussion XXXIX

So, any coach that doesn't walk in and wins us 2 premierships on the bounce is a bad coach? How long was bomber Thompson at the Cats before he won a premiership with them? 7 seasons? I heard they were going to give him the flick after the 2007 season if he didn't win something? Chris Scott -...

www.bigfooty.com

I was wondering why it came up with my comment in the preview, but goes through to yours... but yeah... Geelong are a bunch of flogs. They have been given so much leeway over the years that they think they're entitled to show up and win a premiership because they're Geelong.

 

[jezza25]

I know Charlie is an adult, but where's big brother Ed in all of this?

A man that truly bled for this jumper, shame how Charlie turned out.

I posted maybe 5-6 weeks ago that Charlie wanted to go to the Cats and that was a fact.
It gained no traction but Ed was not a massive fan of how their opinions and suggestions were so disregarded in his playing days.
Not sure he cares too much if Charlie leaves.

 

[thegreatbeast]

Bumping my post from a few weeks ago in light of Bailey Smith's post today.

Rumour - Bluemour Discussion XXXIX

So, any coach that doesn't walk in and wins us 2 premierships on the bounce is a bad coach? How long was bomber Thompson at the Cats before he won a premiership with them? 7 seasons? I heard they were going to give him the flick after the 2007 season if he didn't win something? Chris Scott -...

www.bigfooty.com

I am so confused. What did I miss that makes him an even bigger flog?