Rumour Bluemour Discussion XL - ‘Silly Season’ in full swing 😱

[Aphrodite]

#BUMP from February


Re: 'Alleged' rumours resurfacing ...

Folks, this is the way things are here.

Posters are responsible for what they post. Moderators can not attest to the accuracy or otherwise of any rumour posted.

Moderators will intervene for a couple of reasons.

1. If a thread is threatening to be derailed because of a post.

2. If invested parties request the removal of material.

None of this draws a conclusion as to the accuracy or otherwise of the original post.

There is no need to further speculate. What will be will be.

Also, you need to remember that this thread like all parts of this forum is bound by the rules of poster conduct. If you want to express skepticism towards a rumour that's fine, but having a crack at posters who are contributors to this forum is simply not on and will be acted upon.

Simply put, don't be a dick.

Thanks all!

 

[TheReal99prelim]

I'd feel confident that we could execute a 2-year plan to get back into contention if we were any other club not called Carlton.

We are back in contention for the 8 and above from next year.
Our issues were predominantly:
1. above the shoulders stuff that while I cannot explain specifically, I'm 100% convinced were there
2. An amateurish footy dept, particularly Head of Football
3. An obstinate coach who (IMHO) knows he's on thin ice and will finally change bc Wright and Davies will be breathing down his neck
4. Second rate assistants who I believe Wright is addressing

TDK leaving is not a big deal. We don't need a ruckman who is a quasi mid. We just need a good solid ruckman who works in concert with their mids

Smith, Lord, Cowan, Carroll, Moir will all benefit from 2025, Smith will be very hungry

Jack Silvagni will be replaced by Newman

Charlie will make us less predictable (and maybe Khamis, Kemp and Moir) will work well with Harry

And...let's start playing Cripps in the goal square more often. He is almost KPF height

We are back in contention for finals in 2026. Nothing guaranteed but what I firmly believe is this is no mini rebuild...just a clean up and re calibration

 

[Blue and Silver]

St Kilda are trying to convert a buying spree into relevance.

But assembling a team in one off-season and hoping that it all works out is putting a lot of eggs in one basket.

Not making friends is different from making enemies who you need to work with in the coming years on trades etc.

17 clubs getting in the ear of Mitch Owens, Darcy Wilson, Mattaes Phillipou etc. about the salary they aren't getting

 

[Coops93]

There was some rumours a while back now that certain players don't appreciate negative feedback. I think it even was whispered in the media - Iirc it may have been Jimmy Bartel at one point almost completely walking past his own statement that no one else followed up with or repeated later.

Paraphrasing, but he said he'd heard that they don't respond well to negative feedback and Charlie in particular didn't respond to tough love, he needed to be pumped up. Everyone glided past it, but it pricked my ears and backed up what one or two rumour posts had said as well. The way it was passed over almost felt like it was something that shouldn't have been said which was weird to me.

I think there's a time and place for all sorts of feedback. No one wants to be in an environment where it's all pointing out faults, but conversely, if there's never any straight feedback then you'll end up with a soft underbelly, which we have had for years. A straight liner like GW coming in has certainly ruffled some feathers by the looks of it. Maybe we shouldn't be surprised a few have fallen loose.

 

[Aphrodite]

What’s his name is back with another gem

Burger ring boy

 

[4thchicken]

From a salary dump perspective (1 yr, 8-900k), what would JUH be worth at the trade table?

Future 3rd + salary -> JUH + 1 of future 1st, 2025 1st or 2x future 2nds (2026/2027)?

Note I am working on the assumption he won’t play a game for the club

 

[Countryblueswitnotattoos]

voss & russell cracked the shits with him in one of his final years because he wouldn't follow a rehab program for his injury -which he re-injured (he just wanted to do his own thing).

as a result they phased him out of the seniors, ed didn't like any of this, thought he deserved another year and didn't want to retire. parents got involved, they've been in charlies ear ever since, etc.

basically its been the curnow family v carlton ever since.

So ....

1. Nine months ago, big brother and little brother open up a health and wellness centre 20 minutes down the road from GMHBA Stadium.
2. Dangerflog admits during the Brownlow he and other players have been spending a lot of time down there this year. He literally called it 'a bit of a cat’s haunt at the moment'.
3. According to the website, an annual pass to the About Time Bathhouse, costs $3K pp.
4. Geelong employs 42 players + 25 player contact staff + ? other staff

The Geelong Football Club.....wouldn't......possibly.....

 

[Y Goat]

Would be hilarious if we end up trading Charlie interstate. Plan well executed Curnow’s.

Yep, in light of all this about The curnows…. No Geelong.

Bit of Spine please Blues

 

[tarczonandjane]

'Powerhouse destination Club'

I’ve heard they are even making moves for some of our renowned posters and moderators, Aphrodite. If your phone flashes up with the name “A Bassett,” please don’t answer.

 

[Benaly28]

So, Brian Cook comes in as CEO after a stellar career at... Geelong. During his watch, the club signs Charlie Curnow on a six year front ended contract. A couple of years later, Cook retires with his reputation intact, Carlton is a trainwreck, Curnow renegs on his deal and joins... Geelong for unders. Mischief managed.

We are not a train wreck.As we all know now there have been circumstances this year the main issues are cultural especially Charlie and Jsos.

 

[BlueBlood15]

Charlie’s final demand prior to signing his current contract at the end of 2022, which he now wants to break, is that the club re-sign Ed for 2023. Club was ready to move him on as we had Cripps, Walsh, Hewett, Cerra and Kennedy in the middle plus Dow still on the list. Club agreed to do it as part of getting the deal over the line. Now said family, who the club has bent over backwards to keep happy, is upset with the club. It’s this entitled player culture which is why we have been rubbish for so long. Move him on for the right deal which won’t be the deal Geelong offers.

 

[dangertroy]

I’ve heard they are even making moves for some of our renowned posters and moderators, Aphrodite. If your phone flashes up with the name “A Bassett,” please don’t answer.

A Bassett sounds like a type of dog.
A. Bassat sounds like a moron.

 

[Bfevola]

Any goss re trading of Charlie Benaly ?

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Twomey mentioned Ben Ainsworth

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Ben Ainsworth

Age

27

Ht

178cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

8.1

3star

HB

6.1

4star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.7

4star

G

0.7

4star

D

12.8

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.3

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

13.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

6.8

5star

M

3.8

4star

T

3.4

5star

G

0.6

3star

as a name to keep an eye on re GC trades

 

[Aphrodite]

A Bassett sounds like a type of dog.
A. Bassat sounds like a moron.

 

[lily of laguna]

So ....

1. Nine months ago, big brother and little brother open up a health and wellness centre 20 minutes down the road from GMHBA Stadium.
2. Dangerflog admits during the Brownlow he and other players have been spending a lot of time down there this year. He literally called it 'a bit of a cat’s haunt at the moment'.
3. According to the website, an annual pass to the About Time Bathhouse, costs $3K pp.
4. Geelong employs 42 players + 25 player contact staff + ? other staff

The Geelong Football Club.....wouldn't......possibly.....

Thanks for putting this out there.
My question is.
If you as (and I mean this kindly and with no disrespect) an average punter has brought these tidbits together, what are the chances that the club and GW have their finger on the pulse about this scenario too?
I mean if Charlie is in very frequent contact with the Geelong club players and staff through his spa and has approached the club directly to tell them
He wants to move there, surely a deal with them, if they want him, is going to be an all time lopsided deal in our favour?

 

[Gingerbread man]

Should we have matched St.Kilda's offer for a player who has not been available to play as often as he's been available to play over ten years?I'd say if anybody should be ashamed , it should be Jack. I do however, understand that he was offered a contract beyond his worth, so from that perspective I can understand it—nothing to do with the club at all.

What I'm saying is that 18 month ago we were a destination club and some how within that time we have multiple players who can't wait to get out of the place quick enough, and to have a player like Silvagni who was always considered a heart and soul player at the club be one of those player falls just as much on the club as it does on jacks shoulders.

 

[Aphrodite]

I’ve heard they are even making moves for some of our renowned posters and moderators, Aphrodite. If your phone flashes up with the name “A Bassett,” please don’t answer.

 

[sweethoney]

Twomey mentioned Ben Ainsworth as a name to keep an eye on re GC trades

Especially if they land Elliott

 

[zeggie]

So you think it's ok for a player to sign a long term contract on mega dollars and then decides with 4 years to go, he wants to go surfing and we need to accomodate it?
F-that. He has a contract, if a deal doesnt suit us, he can turn up day one of PS and pull his effin finger out. if he refuses to turn up to training day 1, he will be in breach of contract and he can sit out the next 4 years deregistered as far as I'm concerned.
His manager needs to do the hard yards and get clubs to pony up, else

to.

I work with large contracts. Strong arming, firm positions like this just don't work. Sounds good on paper but there's numerous other factors you haven't considered and would likely just further hurt our club.

 

[dangertroy]

My sons expression every time I tell a dad joke.

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

Twomey mentioned Ben Ainsworth as a name to keep an eye on re GC trades

Id take him at the blues.

 

[Aphrodite]

Any goss re trading of Charlie Benaly ?

Who?

 

[CarmenSandiego]

So ....

1. Nine months ago, big brother and little brother open up a health and wellness centre 20 minutes down the road from GMHBA Stadium.
2. Dangerflog admits during the Brownlow he and other players have been spending a lot of time down there this year. He literally called it 'a bit of a cat’s haunt at the moment'.
3. According to the website, an annual pass to the About Time Bathhouse, costs $3K pp.
4. Geelong employs 42 players + 25 player contact staff + ? other staff

The Geelong Football Club.....wouldn't......possibly.....

Ha, maybe!

That bathhouse has about 6 or 7 owners, it wouldn’t be making much profit already, let alone enough to take enough out for Charlie to see a reward

Same goes for Barry’s (his seltzer with Daicos boys & Smith).

I’d go as far to say he’s burned cash on both of those projects thus far.

 

[RPCB]

Who?

It sounds like a made up name.