List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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Harley Reid extends to 2028

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List Changes - 2025

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• Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle
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  , Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
• Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
• List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Key Offseason Dates

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Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft

 

[ThePuma #9]

Just having a look at the SUNS and it will be very interesting to see what the do.

They have 3 academy boys they will be keen to take. Zeke Uwland, Dylan Patterson & Beau Adinsall.

Uwland and Patterson are considered to be top 5 and Adinsall anywhere between 15-30.

They currently have picks 6,13,16 & 32.

Those picks at a minimum will be pushed out to 7, 15, 18 & 38 after compo for Allen, TDK, Draper, Silvagni & Worpel and our end of first.

Those picks carry a value of

Pick 7......1,543 points
Pick 15......973 points
Pick 18......836 points
Pick 38.......277 points.

So all up as it stands right now they have a total of 3,629 points.

Lets say

Uwland goes 3.........2,178 points
Patterson goes 6........1,659 points
Adinsall goes 25..........590 points.

That's 4,427 points. Take off the discount of 10% and that's still 3,985 points.


Now i know there is talk Saints will trade pick 7 their way but they'll want more back to pay for Aleer and potentially Ryan so there goes more draft capitol. They also have Budarick leaving too but doubt he nets them too much.

Basically if anyone bids on Patterson or Uwland any earlier than what i mentioned above they are ****ed.

I just don't see how they get their academy boys and pick up Petracca or Curnow without letting a big fish go.

 

[shooshka]

They can find the points with ease, even if you take 6 off the table they have 13,16, 32, 57 and 68 - they’ll be trading Flanders for a first round pick, they’ll get a pick in the 30-40 range for Rosas and Fiorini may leave as well. They’ll be able to improve their points tally by trading 13,16 and the Flanders pick.

Would need 4400 (approx) points to match at 1+2.

They hold 4068 points (will be less after compo picks), 6 is worth 1659 of those points.

Massive shortage if they trade it out

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Pick 1 West Coast bid on Zeke Uwland (GC match)

Pick 2 West Coast bid on Dylan Patterson (GC match)

Wave goodbye to about 10 picks in the process.


We don’t owe GC shit, it’s in our best interest to burn as many picks in this draft as we can.

Oh and if Lions are muppets too and don’t look after us with Starcevich then bid on Annable too.

We don’t need pick 1 for marketing, we’re still getting the same players so who gives a shit if they are pick 1 or pick 4.

I'd say do it unless they accept Hawks 2nd round pick.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Just having a look at the SUNS and it will be very interesting to see what the do.

They have 3 academy boys they will be keen to take. Zeke Uwland, Dylan Patterson & Beau Adinsall.

Uwland and Patterson are considered to be top 5 and Adinsall anywhere between 15-30.

They currently have picks 6,13,16 & 32.

Those picks at a minimum will be pushed out to 7, 15, 18 & 38 after compo for Allen, TDK, Draper, Silvagni & Worpel and our end of first.

Those picks carry a value of

Pick 7......1,543 points
Pick 15......973 points
Pick 18......836 points
Pick 36.......277 points.

So all up as it stands right now they have a total of 3,629 points.

Lets say

Uwland goes 3.........2,178 points
Patterson goes 6........1,659 points
Adinsall goes 25..........590 points.

That's 4,427 points. Take off the discount of 10% and that's still 3,985 points.


Now i know there is talk Saints will trade pick 7 their way but they'll want more back to pay for Aleer and potentially Ryan so there goes more draft capitol. They also have Budarick leaving too but doubt he nets them too much.

Basically if anyone bids on Patterson or Uwland any earlier than what i mentioned above they are ****ed.

I just don't see how they get their academy boys and pick up Petracca or Curnow without letting a big fish go.

Addinsall to me is clearly a top 10 pick. He is just 15-30 cos he is in the academy pool and that drastically lowers players worth in the eyes of recruiters for some dumb reason

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Saints, with all these guys coming in, could well get a sugar hit, (they’ll then fall fast with salary cap issues)

Their future first could be pick 17.

You’re so right. I can just see how Ross will come up with an attacking game plan and King will be injury free.

It could also be in the 7 to 12 range.

If you want certainty, it will be a rubbish pick this year. I’m prepared to roll the dice.

 

[FootyOutlier]

Lucas Robinson had a good game at the Futures. With the new NGA rules for next year. Any chance WCE could swoop in on Freo? Or is he not that good

 

[ThePuma #9]

I'd say do it unless they accept Hawks 2nd round pick.

Well Lions are in a pickle too.

They need something from us because they currently have 18,38,41,47,49,50,62,73 Again after compo picks they blow out to

Pick 20......757 points
Pick 44........167 points
Pick 47.......118 points
Pick 53.......28 points
Pick 55.......0
Pick 56.......0
Pick 68.....0
Pick 79.......0

So as it stands they have 1,070 points to match a top 5 pick. If we play nice and no bid comes on Annable till Tigers at Pick 3 then they would need 1,961 points to match after the 10 percent discount.

Either way they are going to be at least 900 points short. Even after we trade with them chances are they will need to offer up a future second to someone.

That look about right briztoon ?

 

[Hasselhough]

With the GC pick looking like it off the table i’d want to split 2 personally for 3 top 10s

Ideal off season looks like:
Starcevich for our 2nd rounder
Ryan for F2
Chesser for 35
35 for Young
2 and 15 for 5 and 7 from Essendon.

Take 1, 5, 7 and 19 to the draft.
Duursma, Sharp, Cumming and the best KPP at 19 + Banfield.

Why would we trade ryan for future 2nd ?

I'm sure if we kept ryan someone would offer him a contract worth band 3 next off season which would be better than saints f2 and we keep a best 22 player .

No future picks for contracted players when we are screaming out for best 22 players

 

[lusheslewis]

It's not that hard. We just shift a few players on the list now to the rookie list - Barnett, Johnstone and Cripps, and if you're ruthless, Yeo. That's four main list spots right there to take them in the ND.

I don't think you can move players to the rookie list.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

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Just having a look at the SUNS and it will be very interesting to see what the do.

They have 3 academy boys they will be keen to take. Zeke Uwland, Dylan Patterson & Beau Adinsall.

Uwland and Patterson are considered to be top 5 and Adinsall anywhere between 15-30.

They currently have picks 6,13,16 & 32.

Those picks at a minimum will be pushed out to 7, 15, 18 & 38 after compo for Allen, TDK, Draper, Silvagni & Worpel and our end of first.

Those picks carry a value of

Pick 7......1,543 points
Pick 15......973 points
Pick 18......836 points
Pick 38.......277 points.

So all up as it stands right now they have a total of 3,629 points.

Lets say

Uwland goes 3.........2,178 points
Patterson goes 6........1,659 points
Adinsall goes 25..........590 points.

That's 4,427 points. Take off the discount of 10% and that's still 3,985 points.


Now i know there is talk Saints will trade pick 7 their way but they'll want more back to pay for Aleer and potentially Ryan so there goes more draft capitol. They also have Budarick leaving too but doubt he nets them too much.

Basically if anyone bids on Patterson or Uwland any earlier than what i mentioned above they are ****ed.

I just don't see how they get their academy boys and pick up Petracca or Curnow without letting a big fish go.

Thats where we come in and offer pick 2 for Walter and Davies.

 

[Elite Pete]

I don't think you can move players to the rookie list.

Yes you can. Delist or just not renew the contract and pick them up via the rookie draft. Risk is someone else drafts them like Knobel to the Suns last year.

Schoenberg did it with the Crows I think Cripps will go down this path too

 

[rebel23]

Why would we trade ryan for future 2nd ?

I'm sure if we kept ryan someone would offer him a contract worth band 3 next off season which would be better than saints f2 and we keep a best 22 player .

No future picks for contracted players when we are screaming out for best 22 players

Agree

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Why would we trade ryan for future 2nd ?

I'm sure if we kept ryan someone would offer him a contract worth band 3 next off season which would be better than saints f2 and we keep a best 22 player .

No future picks for contracted players when we are screaming out for best 22 players

I've said it for weeks, we should be pushing for a player.

Boxhall, Barratt, Wilson, Steele, Dodson, carroll

 

[Hasselhough]

I've said it for weeks, we should be pushing for a player.

Boxhall, Barratt, Wilson, Steele, Dodson, carroll

Losing contracted best 22 players for future picks is a fools game that we lived this year desperately needing a full back and watching barrass play for another team whilst we still hadn't been paid

 

[Elite Pete]

I've said it for weeks, we should be pushing for a player.

Boxhall, Barratt, Wilson, Steele, Dodson, carroll

Yep but not Carroll, I doubt he even gets a deal for next year. Another one we should offer a train on for SSP or MSD if he signs with our WAFL team.

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

To be fair, sans a injuries, the 2019 squad really should have done better.

West Coast massively underperformed within their window, given the squad on paper.

Who are you trying to be fair to? Barrett made the point that apparently everyone in footy knew we were about to drop off a cliff, even though he tipped us to finish 2nd, 2nd and 5th the 3 years after our flag.

 

[Obeanie1]

Screw it and go with first 5 picks unchanged and take:

Duursma, Robey, Phillipou, Dovaston and Emmett.

Then fill our boots with Williams, Walley, Evans, Banfield and a couple of Tigers cast offs.

Surely we can get at least 4 quality first 18 players out of that group in due course.

Offer Brissie a token pick for Starcevich; and provided he remembers where he got traded to....... then happy days are here again (well, maybe by 2028).

Let the draft come to us.

Dont waste picks reaching.

With the hand we have it isnt a bad strategy.

Look at last year. Reported we were attempting to trade up for Shanahan and he lasted to our 2nd.

It happens often around the end or 1st start of 2nd. For some reason quality slides to around those picks.

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

I think we were getting towards the end of it, circa 2018. The window was really 2015 to 2018 when the key players were in that cherry ripe age bracket.

I remember 2016 in particular being very disappointing. We should have made top 4 that year, and to be bundled out at home by the bulldogs was pathetic.

2019 and 2020 we had as good a chance as anyone but a combination of some bad luck with key injuries and a couple of razor close losses that should've been wins were the difference between potentially finishing top 2 and finishing 5th on percentage. Really should have won 2 flags between 2015 and 2020 but lots of great teams don't manage to nab one at all in their window. It takes a lot luck, especially when you're the team that travels the most every single season.

 

[Mr Q]

I don't think you can move players to the rookie list.

It happens all the time. While there is some risk in the process (that another club picks them up while in limbo - see Max Knobel last year), all we'd have to do is delist them and redraft them. Mark Hutchings played his last season for us on the rookie list for instance.

As an example, Ryan Lester is in his fourth year on the Lions rookie list (after 11 years on their main list).

 

[Obeanie1]

Anyone got a player comparison? Inside mid? Link and spread mid? Defensive mid?

Recently transitioned from defense.

A midfielder with half back potential?

Jokes aside he sounds like a kid hitting his straps and having a go.

Hope hè gets his chance.

 

[lusheslewis]

It happens all the time. While there is some risk in the process (that another club picks them up while in limbo - see Max Knobel last year), all we'd have to do is delist them and redraft them. Mark Hutchings played his last season for us on the rookie list for instance.

As an example, Ryan Lester is in his fourth year on the Lions rookie list (after 11 years on their main list).

How would you move Yeo to the rookie lst?

 

[Elite Pete]

How would you move Yeo to the rookie lst?

Its wouldn’t be Yeo imo as he has 2 years left. Cripps would be one, doubt he leaves WA so ain’t no one taking that chance. Johnston I’m not sure teams would be queuing up for and maybe Bazzo and I think we leave one spot open for train ons.

 

[Mr Q]

How would you move Yeo to the rookie lst?

You probably wouldn't unless you were being ruthless - you'd have to risk delisting him and seeing another club take him before us. There might be a chance a club would go ND for a player of Yeo's calibre, though I suspect not a huge risk.

The two year thing wouldn't be an issue, a player can be on a rookie list for two years without issue.

(I also wonder if there's a path using the SSP, but I think you may have had to nominate for the draft to be eligible for that)

 

[Elite Pete]

Havent run the numbers but feels like their older boys did a lot more of the heavy lifting. Old score voting system too

 

[Elite Pete]

You probably wouldn't unless you were being ruthless - you'd have to risk delisting him and seeing another club take him before us. There might be a chance a club would go ND for a player of Yeo's calibre, though I suspect not a huge risk.

The two year thing wouldn't be an issue, a player can be on a rookie list for two years without issue.

(I also wonder if there's a path using the SSP, but I think you may have had to nominate for the draft to be eligible for that)

The reason I doubt you’d do Yeo due to 2 year contracts is because you’re on the hook for the money and probably around $1.4m, watching him run around for another team while you pay that would be very Eagles.