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[Aphrodite]

#BUMP from February


Re: 'Alleged' rumours resurfacing ...

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[gbatman]

Curnow I can see being traded for a bunch of early picks. Swans pick 9, next years first and another first they have to find. We then ontrade some of the firsts for a genuine A grade player who adds a big point of difference to the midfield and/or forward line.

I don't believe we need to find our pick for Walker this year. It would be good, but not 100% necessary. Next year we can probably offer our future 1st and current second for a low 1st round pick and probably get it.

I think the Curnow trade means an A grader comes in and a little more. Will be interesting to see, could be a good thing for us.

 

[marcmurphy3]

its actually beyond a joke

shoudl definitely be done pre FA, unless they are going to alter the FA compensation because the AFL will be going quite hard on F/S ie eg carlton dont whinge about the F/S changes because we have given you two band 1 picks for TDK and JSOS

idk - this is the problem with the AFL's makey upey approach, lack of professionalism and lack of communication

It should have been done before last year's draft if they wanted it for 2026 draft. We have a decision to make on Curnow, and those changes could massively impact how we go about a trade. Power traded out their 2025 top pick last year. Now they have very little to trade forward in 2026, if they get access to Cochrane. Could make him virtually impossible to get.

 

[RPCB]

its actually beyond a joke

shoudl definitely be done pre FA, unless they are going to alter the FA compensation because the AFL will be going quite hard on F/S ie eg carlton dont whinge about the F/S changes because we have given you two band 1 picks for TDK and JSOS

idk - this is the problem with the AFL's makey upey approach, lack of professionalism and lack of communication

Have the AFL even officially announced our TDK/JSOS compo yet? Or do we need to wait our turn so the AFL can announce their relief package for the four time AFL flag winner WC, with their last one being 7 years ago, before we find out what crappy picks we are going to receive for our former players who are about to sign the most expensive FA contracts?

If TDK played for Collingwood, Geelong or Brisbane and left as a FA to sign for $1.8 million a year, you bet the AFL would be wetting themselves with excitement to give those clubs Pick 1 as TDK’s contract has just broken the Band 1 system.

 

[marcmurphy3]

Curnow I can see being traded for a bunch of early picks. Swans pick 9, next years first and another first they have to find. We then ontrade some of the firsts for a genuine A grade player who adds a big point of difference to the midfield and/or forward line.

I don't believe we need to find our pick for Walker this year. It would be good, but not 100% necessary. Next year we can probably offer our future 1st and current second for a low 1st round pick and probably get it.

I think the Curnow trade means an A grader comes in and a little more. Will be interesting to see, could be a good thing for us.

You really think a club is going to trade a low 1st in a strong draft next year, for a super comprimised 2027 1st plus a 2nd? Absolutely no chance.

Also, who is this A-Grader that is going to want to come to us?

Would love it if it was that easy but think you're being a bit optimistic.

 

[CarltonFixCulture]

Curnow I can see being traded for a bunch of early picks. Swans pick 9, next years first and another first they have to find. We then ontrade some of the firsts for a genuine A grade player who adds a big point of difference to the midfield and/or forward line.

I don't believe we need to find our pick for Walker this year. It would be good, but not 100% necessary. Next year we can probably offer our future 1st and current second for a low 1st round pick and probably get it.

I think the Curnow trade means an A grader comes in and a little more. Will be interesting to see, could be a good thing for us.

I like your thinking gbatman

 

[marcmurphy3]

Have the AFL even officially announced our TDK/JSOS compo yet? Or do we need to wait our turn so the AFL can announce their relief package for the four time AFL flag winner WC, with their last one being 7 years ago, before we find out what crappy picks we are going to receive for our former players who are about to sign the most expensive FA contracts?

The free agency period hasn't started. Contracts need to be lodged and then not matched before compo can be announced.

 

[RPCB]

The free agency period hasn't started. Contracts need to be lodged and then not matched before comp can be announced.

Okay, fair enough.

 

[DangerousD]

Not really interested in debating, just pointing out you misrepresented our final positions. Of course he is coaching for his future.

Yep my bad, I misrepresented by saying we finished 13th instead of 11th.

 

[JimmyRabbit49]

Curnow I can see being traded for a bunch of early picks. Swans pick 9, next years first and another first they have to find. We then ontrade some of the firsts for a genuine A grade player who adds a big point of difference to the midfield and/or forward line.

I don't believe we need to find our pick for Walker this year. It would be good, but not 100% necessary. Next year we can probably offer our future 1st and current second for a low 1st round pick and probably get it.

I think the Curnow trade means an A grader comes in and a little more. Will be interesting to see, could be a good thing for us.

If we assume Dean will be picked in the to 10 and out TDK pick will be 10 or 11 there is absolutely zero value in keeping that pick, or the Swans pick 9 (or any other firsts we get in this years draft) - it would make a lot of sense to use a first round pick this year to secure our position on Cody next year (or bank any future firsts that come from a Curnow deal)

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Only if they throw in reading comprehension classes for you, because I was clear that Sydney would be trading out a younger key in the same deal, improving the offer for West Coast to roughly a top 10 pick downgrade for 3 players and our future 2nd.

You weren't very clear... you tacked it on as an assumption in another post but weren't specific as to who... just "a decent player"

Either way, would make no difference... they're not doing that and you know it.

Meanwhile you're celebrating net transfers like the above as a victory? Jog on

Yeah, unlike you, I'm realistic as to where Dean will be bid on and the TDK compo pick we have will get eaten by that bid...

So, we lose it anyway, at least if we trade up before any chance of a Dean bid, we can take a quality player + Dean by trading in a bunch of picks in the 30's... that's how smart clubs would operate... just look at how Brisbane did it...

If all we turn TDK, Charlie, Jack, and the next two drafts into is pick 2, Chesser, Dean, Ison, Reidy, Khamis, Florent, and Walker, then people need to be fired.

That's incompetent..

Might want those reading comprehension classes for yourself mate...

The only difference in your scenario is, we keep the TDK compo pick in exchange for losing Acres and a F2... everything else stays the same...

Now ask yourself, if you were WCE, would you prefer Acres + F2 over a top 10 pick this year? Not gonna happen. Shit if Acres + F2 is worth pick 10 then we might as well try and get a pick around that mark for ourselves...

And don't try and weasel out of it, this is what you said:

I'd twist that into keeping the TDK pick in exchange for Acres and our F2, with my only concern being if WCE would be any risk of picking Robey ahead of us.

That puts Acres current value at around pick 21!

 

[gbatman]

Who is potentially leaving Sydney where they may net another 1st round pick?

 

[blue healer]

Finals 2 years and a heck of a lot of injuries. The way he has found wins despite our injuries has been remarkable. we have been ultra-competitive as well.

Yep, 11 wins in our last 31 games, that's pretty remarkable.

you never know how good you have it until someone points it out.

Edit: just to add a bit of context to that. St Kilda (remember them, they're the team everyone lines up to pot in here) have had 15 wins in their last 31 games.

 

[KohPhi]

People wonder why players don't show loyalty.Guess they must read some of the decisions supporters make on comment sections that's enough to turn anybody off.Trade your captain and watch the culture shoot down the drain

Don't reckon the players would take much notice to be honest..

They know we're pretty much all numpties..

 

[Tommy Alvin]

From all of the rumours, this is the starting 2026 team against Richmond:

Steven May, Weitering, Liam Jones
Ryan Burton

3

Ryan Burton

Age

28

Ht

191cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.5

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

277.3

4star

D

16.8

4star

K

12.3

5star

HB

4.5

3star

M

5.0

5star

T

1.0

2star

MG

277.3

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.4

4star

M

4.8

5star

T

2.2

4star

, Haynes, Saad
Walsh, Cripps Oliver Florent
Tom Papley

11

Tom Papley

Age

29

Ht

177cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

9.1

4star

HB

5.0

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

3.2

5star

G

1.5

5star

D

12.3

3star

K

8.9

4star

HB

3.4

2star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.5

2star

G

2.4

5star

D

13.4

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

G

1.6

5star

, Kemp, Will Hayward
Evans, mcKay, Williams

Reidy, Cerra, Smith

Hewett, Acres, Motlop, Hollands

TA

 

[BlueLocke]

From all of the rumours, this is the starting 2026 team against Richmond:

Steven May, Weitering, Liam Jones
Ryan Burton, Haynes, Saad
Walsh, Cripps Oliver Florent
Tom Papley, Kemp, Will Hayward
Evans, mcKay, Williams

Reidy, Cerra, Smith

Hewett, Acres, Motlop, Hollands

TA

Chuck an extra on the bench.
Also, that backline

 

[Tommy Alvin]

Chuck an extra on the bench.
Also, that backline

slowest backline in history. Poor Saad.

TA

 

[The Bighouse]

Won’t happen but I’d prefer we picked up Oliver over Geelong.

Oliver as Dee’s salary dump -> blues future 3rd
Cripps to freo for future 1st +2027 2nd/3rd round?

Cripps & Freo, poor guy doesn’t deserve that.

 

[The Bighouse]

Put a decent small forward under his feet and watch what happens!

Francis ‘Frank The Tank’ Evans.

 

[Tommy Alvin]

I forgot,

We get Butters too!

TA

 

[gbatman]

If we assume Dean will be picked in the to 10 and out TDK pick will be 10 or 11 there is absolutely zero value in keeping that pick, or the Swans pick 9 (or any other firsts we get in this years draft) - it would make a lot of sense to use a first round pick this year to secure our position on Cody next year (or bank any future firsts that come from a Curnow deal)

I would be banking future first round picks IF we can't land any significant A graders this year. Do the deal I mentioned to cover Walker and use those banked picks to go for a high level point of difference player or two next year. I think we still need to be all about our next uprising being 2027, there's a couple of years work to do for us.

Keep our 2026 1st, get Sydney's F1st and another F1st Sydney have to get. Next year trade our future 1st (2027) and current 2nd for another sides first. Go for Sydney's future 2nd as well.

Gives us 4 first round picks in 2026.

Use a salary dump player or two for next year to cover salary hole left by departing players. Open the cap space right up at the end of 2026 with the departures of Curnow, DeKoning, Silvagni, McGovern, Fantasia, Docherty, Hollands etc. this year and the departures of Saad, Durdin, Boyd, Acres, Binns, Fogarty maybe Haynes and Newman end of next year.

Take Walker with one or two of those 1st. If Sydney bomb it may be just one. Take Butters as a FA. Use the other 2 or 3 first rounders to fill other needs.

Plenty of situations where we come away really strong from losing Curnow and trading strategically. A lot to play out, it all has to be doable and agreed upon.

I think the timing is probably right to let Curnow go and the club probably know that and he can be used to fix a lot of what is wrong with the list. I think if it's not done this year then the ship has sailed.

For what it's worth I feel comfortable with first round picks attached to Sydney. Happy not to have to go to the draft this year and wait to get high end senior talent next year. Get the feeling the Swans had their crack at it last year and have crashed, could be mini-rebuild time for them like it is for us and perhaps Horse realised that and the current coach hasn't.

 

[The Bighouse]

It should have been done before last year's draft if they wanted it for 2026 draft. We have a decision to make on Curnow, and those changes could massively impact how we go about a trade. Power traded out their 2025 top pick last year. Now they have very little to trade forward in 2026, if they get access to Cochrane. Could make him virtually impossible to get.

Whoa, whoa - hold on guys, we forget we actually only changed the rules last year…carry on as advised. Silly us (sorry Pres & Commissioner Bassat’s).

 

[4thchicken]

So we take on his salary in return for them giving us an F1 or two and then we can send him off on a holiday so he's not causing trouble around the club?

Sort of - don’t think you could do that within the rules however it should be ok to have him on a very short leash/standards and if he doesn’t adhere to them, he doesn’t play (vfl or otherwise)

If he adheres to the requirements then you have a decent player

 

[Premiership Quarter]

What's the obsession with Florent. If we are going to take Sydney average to fringe players, McDonald, Hayward, Rowbottom, McInerney Campbell all significantly better

 

[katmanblue]

We’ve gone from the “Carlton Giants” under SOS, to the “Carlton Power” since Voss.


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Think a “free” Burton, is a smart decision, he’s elite by foot, which we lack out of defence.

Also borderline elite/above average in games missed to injury.

 

[bigman]

We know the Crom and Blues love a good pick swap.

Just floating this in good faith:

16, 42 and a F1 for 10, 45 and F2.

Means you move back but still have the pick for a Dean match. Upgrades 45 to 42. And gets you an extra first rounder to help with Walker next year.

Let’s assume you finish the same spot next year, so you would have pick 8. How high would the other first rounder (in this case ours) have to be to match a, let’s say, pick 2 Walker bid?