List Mgmt. 2025 Trade/FA Thread (Cont’d)

[Jafo]

Thanks for the clarification on no compo for Dees players

 

[3rdMan]

His current contract is one that no one will take on. They have to pay a big chunk to start with to get a club to take him on for free in trade. If they pay more than that they could be in for a draft pick. It's irrelevant to the acquiring club how much the Dees are paying - what's relevant to them is how much they'd have to pay Clarry and how much they'd have to give up in trade - and yes the less they have to pay Clarry, the more they'll have to give up in trade. But what pick it'll cost is a complete guess - that comes down to whether the clubs are in a position where picks are more valuable to them than salary cap space or vice versa.

Sure. It's a question of what is the amount of Oliver's contract a club is willing to take on. If Dees pay the maximum they're prepared to pay then they'd usually want something in return. That's why there's a maximum.

It is not a good sign for Melbourne that they've started with "we're willing to pay up to $700k". That suggests they're in a very weak position, so I don't rule out the possibility that they just give him away, but it would be odd.

Odd because: Oliver is 28. A former star who played 22 games last year. Reported that Geelong had an offer of a future 1st and paying $1M last year. It would be unusual for a player to be traded for a junk pick in this situation. On the caveat that I'm not aware of Oliver having additional issues through 2025, maybe I've missed it or they're not public, this would make sense of it.

If the Dees pay $700k of his contract - a huge imposition - they'd surely want something in return. It may be that their position is so weak that they can't get anything, but we'll see. It largely comes down to how many clubs are interested.

Junk pick or decent pick, either way Oliver's a risk. If Dees are so desperate as to give him away for nothing you're not getting a bargain - not to say that it can't work out and become a bargain, but you take on the risk.

 

[MooreDaicos]

Unlucky

I know, right! I don't do it now but times were different when I was younger, especially in my late teens. I use to drive to the boozer from my lines in the army and then drive down the back, very short rd, back to my room, very drunk, 1990
You wouldn't do it now.

 

[Jafo]

So all jokes aside. You know, selling the farm and all. But it Dees are looking to pay X amount of Clarry’s contract to move him on, how the heck was Geelong going to afford him last year? And was that going to be one of Clarry or Smith or both?

 

[yeah man]

Geez, so Bobby's not at the Copeland..... not ideal. Swap for Humphrey??

How do you know Bobby isn't there?

 

[TradeDraft]

Geez, so Bobby's not at the Copeland..... not ideal. Swap for Humphrey??

Media will take it as a Sign that he might leave

Doubt It but give them Ammunition

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

Geez, so Bobby's not at the Copeland..... not ideal. Swap for Humphrey??

A mate of mine is there and has confirmed Bobby is there.

 

[MattD2308]

A mate of mine is there and has confirmed Bobby is there.

All good then, wasn't making comment to sh*t stir, was speculation on Copeland thread it had been mentioned.

 

[LuckyLee]

Nobody is suggesting that, but to pretend that Cox is the answer is bizarre. I guess he shields them by having top defenders walk all over him instead - not sure that helps the team

Cox is a partial answer to protect and take pressure off our young forwards next year, especially if Mihochek leaves. He was better in his two finals than any of MMM were over the last two months. Especially McStay, who was utterly woeful.

We wouldn’t have beaten the Crows without Cox. He took several contested marks at key moments and kicked two goals against the Lions in the Prelim. When Cox is up forward, he gets double-teamed, which limits his direct impact but creates space and opportunities for others.

I bet he gets another contract.

 

[Apex36]

Cox is a partial answer to protect and take pressure off our young forwards next year, especially if Mihochek leaves. He was better in his two finals than any of MMM were over the last two months. Especially McStay, who was utterly woeful.

We wouldn’t have beaten the Crows without Cox. He took several contested marks at key moments and kicked two goals against the Lions in the Prelim. When Cox is up forward, he gets double-teamed, which limits his direct impact but creates space and opportunities for others.

I bet he gets another contract.

If we get Buller he’s gone. He’d have been offered another contract already and not been forced to wait to see what happens in the trade period otherwise.

Also, lol he was decent in the first final but pretty average in the prelim. Stop with that silly nonsense.

 

[lyfsux]

WTF are they all doing in the bushes

I don't really know but I hope they're not breathing heavy

 

[Harry O]

No farewells to Checkers tonight?

 

[Mick F]

Geez, so Bobby's not at the Copeland..... not ideal. Swap for Humphrey??

His market value is decreasing, not increasing.

 

[Jen2310]

No farewells to Checkers tonight?

no official announcement, so guess they kinda cant yet.
Richards didnt announce he was leaving until the day after last years copeland.

 

[LuckyLee]

I’d love to see him at Collingwood but how the hell can we possibly get a deal done for Humphrey?

We’d surely have to give up one of Elliott (staying), Hill or McCreery at the very least.

 

[Mick F]

I know, right! I don't do it now but times were different when I was younger, especially in my late teens. I use to drive to the boozer from my lines in the army and then drive down the back, very short rd, back to my room, very drunk, 1990
You wouldn't do it now.

Times weren’t different. You were different. We do grow up a little bit.

 

[jmac70]

Geez, so Bobby's not at the Copeland..... not ideal. Swap for Humphrey??

You should go.

 

[TradeDraft]

I’d love to see him at Collingwood but how the hell can we possibly get a deal done for Humphrey?

We’d surely have to give up Elliott (staying), Hill or McCreery at the very least.

We would need to Trade someone like:

• Josh Daicos
• Bobby Hill
• McCreery

I am not saying we would but Suns would want a Quality Player back and those are 3 that came top of my head

 

[NQPieman]

Times weren’t different. You were different. We do grow up a little bit.

Times absolutely were different. I didn't do it but DUI and avoiding the booze bus was like a badge of honour in society back in 1990 if not almost celebrated in order society and certainly didn't carry the stigma and shame it does today.

 

[magpies42]

Sure. It's a question of what is the amount of Oliver's contract a club is willing to take on. If Dees pay the maximum they're prepared to pay then they'd usually want something in return. That's why there's a maximum.

It is not a good sign for Melbourne that they've started with "we're willing to pay up to $700k". That suggests they're in a very weak position, so I don't rule out the possibility that they just give him away, but it would be odd.

Odd because: Oliver is 28. A former star who played 22 games last year. Reported that Geelong had an offer of a future 1st and paying $1M last year. It would be unusual for a player to be traded for a junk pick in this situation. On the caveat that I'm not aware of Oliver having additional issues through 2025, maybe I've missed it or they're not public, this would make sense of it.

If the Dees pay $700k of his contract - a huge imposition - they'd surely want something in return. It may be that their position is so weak that they can't get anything, but we'll see. It largely comes down to how many clubs are interested.

Junk pick or decent pick, either way Oliver's a risk. If Dees are so desperate as to give him away for nothing you're not getting a bargain - not to say that it can't work out and become a bargain, but you take on the risk.

I’d be taking Steele over Oliver no matter the scenario.

 

[lyfsux]

The night is still young.
I’m on the porch wearing my 2023 premiership cap.
Cops just drive by.

Anything can happen in Footscray. I wish you were here to get crazy with me.

Old Jmac and Pragmatic Shill getting crazy

 

[BillyElliott]

Geez, so Bobby's not at the Copeland..... not ideal. Swap for Humphrey??

He was there.

 

[lyfsux]

What?

Why would that happen??

He threw the line and got a couple of bites by the looks

 

[BillyElliott]

He threw the line and got a couple of bites by the looks

Yep. Imagine a supporter trolling their own clubs forum.

We have a few of those.

 

[yeah man]

We would need to Trade someone like:

• Josh Daicos
• Bobby Hill
• McCreery

I am not saying we would but Suns would want a Quality Player back and those are 3 that came top of my head

Dave, mate. Humphrey is not anywhere near Josh Daicos as a player. I shouldn't be surprised you threw him in there though. You quite often crack me up