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[serial_thrilla]

 

[apuchar]

No-one has shown interest in Simpkin yet, apparently.

 

[millsy]

maccamk how positive were you on the Humphries move?

If Geelong are supposedly still in the hunt for Curnow, he must be involved coming this way...

It wouldve been unlikely to get down to us or Sydney with Serong if Humphries was in the background as a preferred (and available) target right?

 

[s_wd6]

No-one has shown interest in Simpkin yet, apparently.

Contract, trade cost, and role in team do make him a pretty unattractive prospect tbh.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

It wouldve been unlikely to get down to us or Sydney with Serong if Humphries was in the background as a preferred (and available) target right?

Probably, fair call

 

[oldgoat]

Draft wise, absolutely
Trade wise, nope, constantly overpays

I'd love it if he focused on the drafting and list while letting somebody else do the negotiations at the trade table personally

As in life ...the price paid for something quickly fades.
Whats left is, does it work?
Confession ...I have more than a few bargains in my shed, gathering dust.
I have never regretted what I paid for something that works!
The trick, if you can pull it off, is to get a bargain that works!

 

[Cobbler]

Mmmmm now I'm not not sure if I overrate McVee or underrated Blacres

I think he was much maligned and under rated by most. When Carlton was up and about he was massive in being a part of that.

We are yet to fill that gap.

I’m unsure why all the laughs at my post. The idea is the same. Out of contract player and we received a 3rd rounder. McVee hasn’t done a thing. Is out of contract. He’s still speculative and proven nothing.

 

[millsy]

Probably, fair call

Not a bad theory though. Always possible thats why Serong went Sydney, they were committed with no ifs or buts.

Gee you'd hope we're not talking paying overs for Humphries to unlock something for Geelong..

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I think he was much maligned and under rated by most. When Carlton was up and about he was massive in being a part of that.

We are yet to fill that gap.

I’m unsure why all the laughs at my post. The idea is the same. Out of contract player and we received a 3rd rounder. McVee hasn’t done a thing. Is out of contract. He’s still speculative and proven nothing.

Bit of a key difference is that we clearly didnt want Acres at all. Melbourne want to keep McVee

 

[largebus]

No-one has shown interest in Simpkin yet, apparently.

This thread did a few weeks ago. People were going on about him like he was Nick Daicos. It was bizarre.

 

[fnerd]

Bit of a key difference is that we clearly didnt want Acres at all. Melbourne want to keep McVee

Well maybe they should’ve offered him a better deal with a more promised role then

 

[Cobbler]

Bit of a key difference is that we clearly didnt want Acres at all. Melbourne want to keep McVee

Short memories? We had certainly offered Acres an extension. It was considered cheap and he looked elsewhere.

100% we offered him a deal.

McVee is no different. Demons offered him an extension. No idea on value, but we swooped.

They’re literally almost the same.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Short memories? We had certainly offered Acres an extension. It was considered cheap and he looked elsewhere.

100% we offered him a deal.

McVee is no different. Demons offered him an extension. No idea on value, but we swooped.

They’re literally almost the same.

We offered him a shit deal and didnt really want him to stay. Its always between the lines on these things. Same as WC and Allen.

Langdon is a better comparison IMO. Better player, more proven and similar situation.

 

[Docker82]

FA compo is completely broken when Melbourne elect to trade for Miocheck instead of diluting their pick 42 received for spargo, it’s become a pick manufacturing factory rather than just allowing players to move around. These two players should just move with Pies getting a pick based on Dees deal, likely next to nothing.

Same thing about to happen with Fiorini from Gold Coast as well. Has nominated Essendon who won't want the Draper compensation impacted.

That's three players - Starcevich, Fiorini and Mihocek.

Restricted free agency should mean Brisbane has to trade for either Allen or Draper and basically have to make to call between one of them abd their academy kid. Yes, I'm aware Draper wasn't restricted but if Essendon would lose him for nothing they don't let it happen.

Free agency compensation picks being removed stops this double and triple dipping. It's almost as bad as the FSs and academies IMO.

 

[Cobbler]

We offered him a shit deal and didnt really want him to stay. Its always between the lines on these things. Same as WC and Allen.

Langdon is a better comparison IMO. Better player, more proven and similar situation.

My comparison isn’t so much about the player and their value. More the situation.

McVee wants out. Is out of contract. Why are we seemingly needing to compromise?

Carlton offered a F3 (pick 52)

Not a person here thought that was a good deal or even a ‘fair’ deal, but what could we do?

I truly don’t get why we need to ‘find’ a pick.

Plonk 32 on the table. We have nothing else to do this trade period.

Go have a beer for the next 10 days.

 

[Cobbler]

We offered him a shit deal and didnt really want him to stay. Its always between the lines on these things. Same as WC and Allen.

Langdon is a better comparison IMO. Better player, more proven and similar situation.

To further illustrate my point. What was Bailey worth? Well he was worth what Geelong offered. Did they compromise?

 

[fnerd]

Same thing about to happen with Fiorini from Gold Coast as well. Has nominated Essendon who won't want the Draper compensation impacted.

That's three players - Starcevich, Fiorini and Mihocek.

Restricted free agency should mean Brisbane has to trade for either Allen or Draper and basically have to make to call between one of them abd their academy kid. Yes, I'm aware Draper wasn't restricted but if Essendon would lose him for nothing they don't let it happen.

Free agency compensation picks being removed stops this double and triple dipping. It's almost as bad as the FSs and academies IMO.

Oh surprise surprise another AFL initiative designed so “everyone wins” has turned into joke.

T they seriously can’t seem to understand a competition is a zero sum game and only gets more magnified the more they want to meddle in outcomes around player movement.

The fact that we’re now getting clubs trading for free agents to “protect “ compo picks in the 30s/40s is beyond laughable.

 

[bigfoopy]

Ahh I love when trade period opens and we get radio silence for a week

 

[Docker82]

To further illustrate my point. What was Bailey worth? Well he was worth what Geelong offered. Did they compromise?

Geelong offered just their first pick but it ended up being more sp yes.

I've said this before. I reckon if Smith was walked into the draft he gets to Geelong's pick.

If Acres was walked into the draft I reckon Carlton gets him with their last draft pick but that's debatable.

McVee wouldn't make it past West Coast's picks. Basic supply and demand.

 

[Cobbler]

Geelong offered just their first pick but it ended up being more sp yes.

I've said this before. I reckon if Smith was walked into the draft he gets to Geelong's pick.

If Acres was walked into the draft I reckon Carlton gets him with their last draft pick but that's debatable.

McVee wouldn't make it past West Coast's picks. Basic supply and demand.

Here’s the thing. Are Melbourne knocking back 32 and walking him to PSD?

 

[Docker82]

Oh surprise surprise another AFL initiative designed so “everyone wins” has turned into joke.

T they seriously can’t seem to understand a competition is a zero sum game and only gets more magnified the more they want to meddle in outcomes around player movement.

The fact that we’re now getting clubs trading for free agents to “protect “ compo picks in the 30s/40s is beyond laughable.

Guys genuinely worth a first rounder shouldn't be free agents IMO but we've gone too far with this system and the AFLPA are too powerful for us to go back.

Removing free agency compensation picks or staying with this current mess are the only options I see as viable.

 

[2big2strom]

why does the thread title keep shouting at me

 

[freo_leo29]

Contract, trade cost, and role in team do make him a pretty unattractive prospect tbh.

Xander McGuire said on a poddy that Simpkin was front loaded and that's why north probably won't let him go

Makes sense, have paid him a big part of his contract, they just get stung if he leaves now

 

[Docker82]

Here’s the thing. Are Melbourne knocking back 32 and walking him to PSD?

No but what would happen if they did does still impact trade value IMO.

A fair deal will be worked out and pick 32 isn't that.

 

[apuchar]

Guys genuinely worth a first rounder shouldn't be free agents IMO but we've gone too far with this system and the AFLPA are too powerful for us to go back.

Removing free agency compensation picks or staying with this current mess are the only options I see as viable.

Free agency was for the players not the clubs. I'm not sure how we got to this. Pretty sure in MLB a committee decides how much the club have to pay, pick wise, for a free agent.

 

[Dayts]

Xander McGuire said on a poddy that Simpkin was front loaded and that's why north probably won't let him go

Makes sense, have paid him a big part of his contract, they just get stung if he leaves now

As if we needed more reasons to get him in!