List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 3

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List Changes - 2025

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In:

• Brandon Starcevich arrives at West Coast in a three team deal
• Tylar Young (Richmond) arrived at West Coast in exchange for Pick 38.
• Deven Robertson (Brisbane) has agreed to join West Coast and will be signed on to the rookie list after being delisted by Brisbane

Out:

• Oscar Allen joins Brisbane as a FA - West Coast receive Pick 2 as compensation
• Liam Ryan and a 2027 R3 pick has been traded to St Kilda for a 2026 R2 pick
• Campbell Chesser has been traded to Carlton for Pick 41
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Coen Livingstone joins the list of players not offered a new contract

Players Out of Contract - 2025 (0)

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• Jamie Cripps and Malakai Champion seem to have been offered new contracts despite there being no official announcement. Means that all players out of contract for 2025 have been given new contracts despite or removed from the playing list

2025 Draft Order

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Current Draft Picks:
Round 1: 1, 2, 13
Round 2: 34, 41
Round 3: 53, 58 (These picks are in excess of available list spots so will be forfeited if we don’t consolidate our 2025 picks up the order or trade some for future picks)

List Spots Available (39 of 48):
• Main list (33 of 38) - 5* (in: Starcevich, Young out: Allen, Ryan, Chesser, Hunt, Petruccelle, Jamieson)
• Cat A rookie list (5 of 8) - 3* (in: Robertson (pending), out: Rawlinson)
• Cat B rookie list (1 of 2) - 2 (out: Livingstone)

* Based on Dewar being upgraded after the maximum 3 years on the rookie list. Hutchinson may also have been upgraded but this isn’t confirmed - if it is we will have 4 main and 4 rookie list spots open

* Matthew Clarke has stated we have 5 main list spots

Matt Clarke wraps up the trade period - 6PR

 

[BartBart]

Ryan, Hill and NWM in the same team?

Won't somebody think of Brian Taylor??

I try hard to never think of Brian Taylor.

 

[BartBart]

Tim Watson on SEN this morning saying how ridiculous it is the AFL have given us pick 2 for someone like Oscar Allen and how it’s ’assistance’.

Gary Lyon then explains to him how the free agency compo system actually works and he goes “oh, I didn’t know that”

As an-WCE listed player Watson should be a little more considerate to our cause.

 

[mattyc75]

Absolutely garbage...

Just keep him for that value

Im happy with that,will give us more flexibility come draft time next year especially with highly rated NGAs and F/S picks.

 

[wirra44]

Bit of a strange to settle on but oh well.

 

[TY24]

Not sure the FF3 was necessary but it's worth 3 5ths of **** all anyway.

 

[DirtySandman]

As an-WCE listed player Watson should be a little more considerate to our cause.

None of our old players, hates the club more.

 

[Patterz123]

Bit flat to lose Flyin' - but it shows we've pretty much gutted our list now for the new era.

Saints will get a sugar hit next year with all the new recruits, therefore F2 could really blow out.

 

[ThePuma #9]

Good trade for Ryan.

For all those complaining let me point out a few things to consider.

1. He’d be 30 years old next trade period and a free agent. The club wouldn’t be offering him a 2-3 year deal so chances are he leaves, especially after trying to for the past two years. What type of compo do you think we’re going to get? We’d be lucky to get any but let’s say Band 4 at best. That’s still an end of second round. Band 5 is 3rd round.

2.Next years draft won’t be as compromised as this year and with the AFL tightening the rules and values it’s going to be much harder for clubs to match. So better draft, better pick.

3. What do you honestly think a 3rd rounder in the 2027 draft is going to be worth with Tassie coming and already receiving 1,3,5,7,9,11 & 13. That’s already pushing the first pick of the third round to 45. Add on top of that our improvement and academy/father and son and that pick is in the 50’s. It’s worthless.

We let him go a year earlier and potentially get a pick at the worst in a good draft anywhere between 25-35. SOLD.

Seeya Flyin Ryan.

Thanks for the memories.

#1

 

[amazingjoshy]

A FF3 will be in the Tasmanian compromised draft. I'm okay with that.

Tassie have 7 picks in the 1st round plus the 1st of Rd 2 and 3 so the absolute earliest (if we finish last) that Rd 3 pick is 46....before any compo or bidding

Its likely to be a high 50s/low 60s pick

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

With 10 picks going to Tassie in 2027, a R3 pick for the team finishing last will be 47 before any FA compo.

I believe the Saints will still be out of the 8 so worst place its F2 pick will 28.

 

[mat11]

I would've rathered an f3 for Ryan than f2 with an ff3 going back.

 

[Art OF war]

Good trade for Ryan.

For all those complaining let me point out a few things to consider.

1. He’d be 30 years old next trade period and a free agent. The club wouldn’t be offering him a 2-3 year deal so chances are he leaves, especially after trying to for the past two years. What type of compo do you think we’re going to get? We’d be lucky to get any but let’s say Band 4 at best. That’s still an end of second round. Band 5 is 3rd round.

2.Next years draft won’t be as compromised as this year and with the AFL tightening the rules and values it’s going to be much harder for clubs to match. So better draft, better pick.

3. What do you honestly think a 3rd rounder in the 2027 draft is going to be worth with Tassie coming and already receiving 1,3,5,7,9,13. That’s already pushing the first pick of the third round to 43. Add on top of that our improvement and academy/father and son and that pick is in the 50’s. It’s worthless.

We let him go a year earlier and potentially get a pick at the worst in a good draft anywhere between 25-35. SOLD.

Seeya Flyin Ryan.

Thanks for the memories.

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Didnt he have 2 years on his contract left?

 

[Hap Hapablap]

****en dumb ****en move. wtf is this clarke thinking? waiting a year to use the pick is ****en stupid.

weve lost a contracted player for peanuts.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

This is a disgusting deal, our 2027 F3 going back to them is hilarious. God Clark stinks.

Mate. If we are still bottom of the ladder at the end of 2027, Harley will walk for 4 first rounders, relax we will have picks.

If we have improved like we all hope, that FF3 will be say 45 and there F2 next year will be say 25. Rating Ryan at about pick 30. Now they win the flag and we win the spoon then it's shit. But that's the risk you take backing yourself in to be better by 2027. Also, remember 2027 is Tassie draft compromised

 

[6285sutto]

Good trade. Ryan looked pretty disinterested at times this year and was always quick to point the finger or blame a team mate when it didn’t go to plan. Think he’s an awesome player when he’s inspired but just not the player we need for rebuild. Does leave a pretty big void though so hopefully Long, Brockman, or Owies are able to step up this year.

 

[Smeg Head]

In all likely hood its helping to clear a list spot for this year but damn I am still sad to see him go.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Any threat to Carlton to re-select Chesser are now possible. Blues will need to trade. Unfortunately I think it will at best have a 3 in front of it.

 

[The Gtrain]

Good trade for Ryan.

For all those complaining let me point out a few things to consider.

1. He’d be 30 years old next trade period and a free agent. The club wouldn’t be offering him a 2-3 year deal so chances are he leaves, especially after trying to for the past two years. What type of compo do you think we’re going to get? We’d be lucky to get any but let’s say Band 4 at best. That’s still an end of second round. Band 5 is 3rd round.

2.Next years draft won’t be as compromised as this year and with the AFL tightening the rules and values it’s going to be much harder for clubs to match. So better draft, better pick.

3. What do you honestly think a 3rd rounder in the 2027 draft is going to be worth with Tassie coming and already receiving 1,3,5,7,9,13. That’s already pushing the first pick of the third round to 43. Add on top of that our improvement and academy/father and son and that pick is in the 50’s. It’s worthless.

We let him go a year earlier and potentially get a pick at the worst in a good draft anywhere between 25-35. SOLD.

Seeya Flyin Ryan.

Thanks for the memories.

#1

Not looking forward to him sitting on Youngs head next year at Optus

 

[Ilkka Sinisalo]

Well, our small forward stocks are officially terrible.

Plenty of opportunity for Champion, Newton, Long and anybody else to lock down regular playing time in the senior side. Hell, even Owies could do it if he remembers how to play footy again!

 

[ziad]

Yeah more likely 50s.

We have another death ride for 2026.

exciting isnt it

 

[Goroyals22]

Absolutely garbage...

Just keep him for that value

Made like a bandit to get that for him . Good job

 

[Keys]

Would rather have kept Ryan for that tbh, but it’s not the worst

Ryan will be missed on game day no doubt - clearly a best 22 player and one of our genuine X factor types

To counter that -
• If it wasn’t this year he’d be gone as a UFA next so we’re talking about one more year of Ryan only
• He’s had surgeries on both hamstrings and while he proved durable this year he will always be a ticking time bomb
• Good mentor for the indigenous lads but he’s the antithesis of a training standard setter. He’s not a good trainer and the unkind would describe him as lazy although I wouldn’t go that far personally
• Many critics of the club have accused us of being soft on players and giving them too much leeway- Ryan would be Exhibit A in that case
• We are tight on list spots so trading Ryan out gives us the ability to bring another draftee in like Tylah Williams or Koby Evans
• His absence gives us 23 games across the season to provide development opportunity to another player
• It also allows McQualter to expand the role and responsibility given to a player like Brockman or Champion

I’ll miss not watching him out there for West Coast and the thought of him in a Saints jumper is borderline nauseating but it’s part of moving on from the ghosts of recent seasons

 

[Deepthroat]

Ryan gone is a blessing.

We should have even more cap to splurge now.

Where is the big fish???

 

[boondy]

Yep, always thought it was going to be a futures pick considering how good our draft hand is this year. Don't mind it, gets out another unmotivated player.

I remember thinking after watching Ryan in a few games mid year that Ryan should go back to Wafl and that we should just trade him cos his efforts werent what a senior player should put up.

 

[Goroyals22]

None of our old players, hates the club more.