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Can’t see it involving a third club. Just Freo and Brisbane.

I honestly think you’re looking too big as well. Something smaller.

Swap of later picks, once that bid match on Annable goes through.

Yeah possibly, but that would feel like Brisbane saying ‘Hey, there’s some crumbs over here from the cake you gave us earlier’

I like to think it’s bigger.
 

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Didn't realise Young was 27. Not sure he'll still be there when West Coast next make finals.

I don't think that's the point. They need some bodies to play so inside fifties against don't all turn into scores. You'd take 2x Zac Dawson to play key back and just compete and defend over playing twigs or midfielders as your tall defenders - at least until your higher talent players have had their time in the gym.
 
I don't think that's the point. They need some bodies to play so inside fifties against don't all turn into scores. You'd take 2x Zac Dawson to play key back and just compete and defend over playing twigs or midfielders as your tall defenders - at least until your higher talent players have had their time in the gym.
More questioning the Pick 38 part than the logic of bringing him in tbh.

He's just okay at best and at 27 Richmond probably didn't think he was much of a loss to their long term plans.
 
More questioning the Pick 38 part than the logic of bringing him in tbh.

He's just okay at best and at 27 Richmond probably didn't think he was much of a loss to their long term plans.

I think it goes in the "picks after 30 don't have much value this year" column.
 
I'd throw hollands a shot if Blues delist. Go via SSP. High upside in an area we still need quality (half forward, medium) clearly with issues but reports say he knows he's got a ln alcohol problem, that's the first step

Getting out of Melb, last shot to have a crack

Great option as a train on player over summer.

If he commits, and trains hard then lock him in.
 

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I'd throw hollands a shot if Blues delist. Go via SSP. High upside in an area we still need quality (half forward, medium) clearly with issues but reports say he knows he's got a ln alcohol problem, that's the first step

Getting out of Melb, last shot to have a crack
I would be truly shocked if he "only" has a problem with alcohol and no other substances. All reports/murmurings including his drug related charges prior to his latest interview would suggest otherwise
 
I think it goes in the "picks after 30 don't have much value this year" column.
If 27 year old, 35 AFL game back-up defender Tyler Young is worth pick 38 in this years draft, what do you reckon the extra pick 44 we gave to Brisbane so they can match Daniel Annable bids in order to get the Mcvee trade done is worth? A half eaten packet of Samboy chips?
 

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Is Hollands the type that we all look at and go "he'd be perfect for SSP/could be a moneyball pickup etc" and yet the club wouldn't even look at it?

and then Geelong or Sydney get him, and every other club looks stupid.

I think he would need a fair bit of support, especially in the first 12 months but he has so much talent.
 
Is Hollands the type that we all look at and go "he'd be perfect for SSP/could be a moneyball pickup etc" and yet the club wouldn't even look at it?
Probably but I doubt there would be 20 pages of rants if they go down that route. They clearly have a much better grasp of the situation
 
and then Geelong or Sydney get him, and every other club looks stupid.

I think he would need a fair bit of support, especially in the first 12 months but he has so much talent.
Thing is that Carlton took him on from Gold Coast at a heavily discounted price knowing all the issues he came with.

That's two clubs that have decided his off field issues are too much hard work. One of them is about to trade in JUH.

SSP train on is about the only thing you'd consider him for.
 
Trading with gold coast must be the ultimate life hack. Two top 10 picks for a 30 year old is crazy shit almost no other club would even consider but it's the sort of thing you get away with when you can match two top 5 academy picks for pennies.
First round picks don't mean anything to Gold Coast it's like monopoly money.
 
Thing is that Carlton took him on from Gold Coast at a heavily discounted price knowing all the issues he came with.

That's two clubs that have decided his off field issues are too much hard work. One of them is about to trade in JUH.

SSP train on is about the only thing you'd consider him for.
Agree, SSP makes perfect sense to me.
 

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