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[serial_thrilla]

 

[Ghost Pig]

Feel like a lot of people are setting themselves up for disappointment with McVee.

I have a nagging feeling too, but I don't watch Melbourne closely.

I went looking for some highlights and there is a clip from 2024 I think where Gerard Healy, talking to Gary Lyon, say's something along the lines of "this kid went in the rookie draft. Why weren't West Coast all over him, he's just what they need, I mean he's just about the best kick in the comp".

 

[theGav56]

Maybe, but if he plays in defense he needs to do more than that as he would be the 'small' defender.

Like you I am unconvinced about him becoming a defender. The potential is there. But HBF is a good position to begin a journey at the next level.

And while upgrading a position is always good, it is not an area of need for us, especially with Walker coming back.

Meanwhile, in our forward line........ enhancing a small forwards defensive abilities will pay dividends.

 

[Lach72]

It would be somewhat ironic if this does happen and we end up using the future fourth round on Lucas Robinson, who is shaping up to have very similar pros and cons to Brodie.

Maybe.

Lucas looks far superior over head though

 

[wakojako]

It would be somewhat ironic if this does happen and we end up using the future fourth round on Lucas Robinson, who is shaping up to have very similar pros and cons to Brodie.

The fact that you made this comparison just confirms you haven't watched Robinson play.

 

[Perfect Purple]

All I want from McVee is someone who can defend when it's their turn to contest, attack when there's an opening and kick the ball well enough that it's not just a long one down the line.

He will most certainly do that and much more.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

We could have done that trade and there is no guarantee that 34 and 37 would net us 23/24.

We do know that Melbourne wanted to keep McVee and we do know Pyke said that they would look at having a crack at McVee. Perhaps we felt best to get the deal done early. Maybe we felt best not to put McVee through the stress and just get the deal done.

Brisbane are likely talking smack but still hold out hope that they can convince Cal Ah Chee to stay.

OR perhaps, just hear me out here, the trade was lazy and dogshit...

 

[lukedean16]

Why are you still sooking about this? It’s over a done with. Stop throwing a hissey fit and move on. **** me dead

 

[kuhni]

OR perhaps, just hear me out here, the trade was lazy and dogshit...

The scramble to create new more abstract scenarios is real.

 

[s_wd6]

Why are you still sooking about this? It’s over a done with. Stop throwing a hissey fit and move on. **** me dead

Why are you still sooking about his sooking

 

[kuhni]

OR perhaps, just hear me out here, the trade was lazy and dogshit...

The moment it went down it looked and smelt like a shit trade, now we know it tastes like one too.

 

[freo_leo29]

Why are you still sooking about this? It’s over a done with. Stop throwing a hissey fit and move on. **** me dead

Take a look at the thread you are in and you might clue onto why its being discussed...

 

[Moist Biscuit]

Why are you still sooking about this? It’s over a done with. Stop throwing a hissey fit and move on. **** me dead

Because it was dumb as **** at the time and every day that passes is making it dumber.

 

[Superkoops]

OR perhaps, just hear me out here, the trade was lazy and dogshit...

You don’t think I haven’t heard you out… yes it wasn’t a great deal. Yes we should have got better return for the picks 34, 45, 51. At some point you need to move on.

I promise I won’t ever again try to make a justification for the trade.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Why are you still sooking about this? It’s over a done with. Stop throwing a hissey fit and move on. **** me dead

Nah, had enough of people sooking about perfectly calm discussion on the only thing Freo have done in trade period. Half of it is just having a laugh.

If you dont want to look at it, avoid the TRADE thread on the FREO board for another week.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I promise I won’t ever again try to make a justification for the trade.

Finally, now I just need to annoy about 15 other posters into submission =)

 

[PurpleGreenRed]

All I want from McVee is someone who can defend when it's their turn to contest, attack when there's an opening and kick the ball well enough that it's not just a long one down the line.

All I want is an alternative kick in strategy from “Luke Ryan kicks it down the broadcast side wing to a contest”

 

[Ysaye]

Maybe.

Lucas looks far superior over head though

Yes agree that Robinson's overhead ability is a significant point of difference from Brodie, but I am just not sure how that difference will play out in terms of draftability as I don't think he (say) is a resting forward, or suits a half-back position (and so far I have not seen him play as either), because I am not convinced Robinson yet has the skill level by foot to really hurt in either. I actually think Brodie is a bit better by hand offensively; they are both good at positioning and decision making in close. I think Brodie would be faster by foot as well; I have not seen enough of Robinson to judge whether he is better defensively than Brodie.

Ultimately the risk with both players (and the reason I compared them - my apologies wakojako if you felt offended by the suggestion) are that they are one position players, and I think there is a lot of emphasis placed by recruiters on how many potential positions people can play when it comes to the draft.

Having said that, I also want to emphasize (which I didn't do in my original comment - my apologies) that overall that there is plenty of time for things to change around and hopefully we get to see Robinson in positions other than just a centreman and also improving his kicking.

 

[Superkoops]

Finally, now I just need to annoy about 15 other posters into submission =)

Got me. Even though I have made my peace it was a s*#t deal. Without justifying it, there does seem an element of let’s get it done.

I still live in hope there is a second element to it but that seems unfounded.

 

[rgauci]

Finally, now I just need to annoy about 15 other posters into submission =)

I side with you, I’m pretty outraged about it. We need every advantage and every asset. You can imagine Gold Coast or Brisbane throwing in a 3rd rounder, they get given so many assets to work with. Academies, father-sons, free agents, etc. but it’s Brisbane being the hardest to deal with.

 

[Wee Jessies]

Are we interested in Ah Chee, seems to have stalled with Adelaide? 10 goals in finals sounds pretty juicy. I would suggest 20 and 47 to Essendon for 27 and 30 might turn their heads. 27/30 to Brisbane seems to be trumping Adelaide's best offer.

 

[Moist Biscuit]

Are we interested in Ah Chee, seems to have stalled with Adelaide? 10 goals in finals sounds pretty juicy. I would suggest 20 and 47 to Essendon for 27 and 30 might turn their heads. 27/30 to Brisbane seems to be trumping Adelaide's best offer.

He wants to play for the Crows

 

[Tundrawolf]

Yes agree that Robinson's overhead ability is a significant point of difference from Brodie, but I am just not sure how that difference will play out in terms of draftability as I don't think he (say) is a resting forward, or suits a half-back position (and so far I have not seen him play as either), because I am not convinced Robinson yet has the skill level by foot to really hurt in either. I actually think Brodie is a bit better by hand offensively; they are both good at positioning and decision making in close. I think Brodie would be faster by foot as well; I

Having said that, I also want to emphasize (which I didn't do in my original comment - my apologies) that overall that there is plenty of time for things to change around and hopefully we get to see Robinson in positions other than just a centreman and also improving his kicking.

Yes agree that Robinson's overhead ability is a significant point of difference from Brodie, but I am just not sure how that difference will play out in terms of draftability as I don't think he (say) is a resting forward, or suits a half-back position (and so far I have not seen him play as either), because I am not convinced Robinson yet has the skill level by foot to really hurt in either. I actually think Brodie is a bit better by hand offensively; they are both good at positioning and decision making in close. I think Brodie would be faster by foot as well; I have not seen enough of Robinson to judge whether he is better defensively than Brodie.

Ultimately the risk with both players (and the reason I compared them - my apologies wakojako if you felt offended by the suggestion) are that they are one position players, and I think there is a lot of emphasis placed by recruiters on how many potential positions people can play when it comes to the draft.

Having said that, I also want to emphasize (which I didn't do in my original comment - my apologies) that overall that there is plenty of time for things to change around and hopefully we get to see Robinson in positions other than just a centreman and also improving his kicking.

Lucas is not a one position player. He regularly played CHF when resting and would also have the occasional stint in defence when required.

 

[pK75]

Got me. Even though I have made my peace it was a s*#t deal. Without justifying it, there does seem an element of let’s get it done.

I still live in hope there is a second element to it but that seems unfounded.

The second element was Brisbane delisting Robinson so WC can pick him up as a rookie in the SSP and thus not burn a list spot, it didn’t benefit Freo in the slightest.

 

[Superkoops]

The second element was Brisbane delisting Robinson so WC can pick him up as a rookie in the SSP and thus not burn a list spot, it didn’t benefit Freo in the slightest.

Clearly I mean a second component that benefits Freo not WC.

Could be a pick swap in our favour at the end of trade week or during draft night where we go that seems unusual.

 

[Paracleet]

Actually in the new system the difference between 12 and 14 and 37 is equivalent to pick 44. It's not a massively better deal. At the very least the idea we could trade two picks in the mid 30s for a high 20 picks is clearly wrong by this pricing