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[serial_thrilla]

 

[freo_leo29]

I am getting so sick of people looking at points and slides of third round picks and arguing about the trade. It's such a minute, "forest for the trees" look at the trade.



At the start of trade period, we were looking at pick 12, pick 33 and Whan. We now have pick 19, McVee and Whan. That is honestly where it starts and ends for us

Yeah so much worse

Should have been 12 mcvee and whan

Or 13 mcvee and whan if we take a 1 spot slide

 

[freo_leo29]

Serong and f4 for an f3

Done deal

 

[Taylor]

Just imagine what it would have cost to get Pickett out of them.

 

[freo_leo29]

WC and gc pick swap

 

[CaseySibosadoHOF]

my god this is unreal for Melbourne

Crazy trade considering Gold Coast lost 4 best 22 players this off-season. They'll probably be fine coz the Academy has given them first rounders out of every orifice, but there's worse teams to deathride than Gold Coast.

 

[Joao]

Go Bombers. The spirit of Dodo lives on!

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Yeah so much worse

Should have been 12 mcvee and whan

Or 13 mcvee and whan if we take a 1 spot slide

That is probably the "our side" to it. Our picks after 30 look like they would have been a top 25 pick by themselves so we've moved down to 20 for no reason

 

[Eski3]

I dont agree with throwing two picks in the 40s into the ether to make your point

That part of the trade I don't agree with, and it's where we threw points away. I do question what we really could have done with them though given how much they are worth this year, and the fact that we don't have list spots to do anything with them. Could have maybe snagged a future third

 

[Eski3]

I have no idea why people are thinking that we had any way of keeping 12 and getting McVee (or even sliding one pick back). Nobody is offering an early 20s pick for a one pick slide in any of these trades

 

[freo_leo29]

I have no idea why people are thinking that we had any way of keeping 12 and getting McVee (or even sliding one pick back). Nobody is offering an early 20s pick for a one pick slide in any of these trades

It literally just happened lol

 

[go_the_dockers]

Do picks have any value to GC

Makes the Merrett trade look like nothing

 

[lint]

It literally just happened lol

except they gave up two picks, 42 and 43 to make it happen, whereas we only gave up one pick, pick 50, and slid pick 44 back two places so we could match Whan bids. Keeping the extra pick was key for us in our draft strategy re: nga.

 

[freo_leo29]

Do picks have any value to GC

Makes the Merrett trade look like nothing

Nah they only seem to need points

The value of picks to them is wildly different to most clubs

 

[mattis117]

Gold Coast exist in different economy altogether. It's sick.

 

[freo_leo29]

except they gave up two picks, 42 and 43 to make it happen, whereas we only gave up one pick, pick 50, and slid pick 44 back two places so we could match Whan bids. Keeping the extra pick was key for us in our draft strategy re: nga.

I'd give up 44 in an instant to move from 19 to 12

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

except they gave up two picks, 42 and 43 to make it happen, whereas we only gave up one pick, pick 50, and slid pick 44 back two places so we could match Whan bids. Keeping the extra pick was key for us in our draft strategy re: nga.

I dont think that extra pick is going to matter as I doubt Whan goes top 40 personally

 

[Eski3]

It literally just happened lol

You mean this one?



It's 9, 31, 42 and 43 for 10 and 22

 

[lint]

I'd give up 44 in an instant to move from 19 to 12

you're missing the other key part of sliding down from 12 to 19, which was moving our pick 33 up to 23. This has been debated ad nauseum. The smoke will only clear once we see the draft results. It's predominantly hypothetical speculation until then. If you're talking points differential of the two trades, the fact is Hawthorn actually lost 208 points in the trade, whereas Freo only lost 177.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

You mean this one?



It's 9, 31, 42 and 43 for 10 and 22

To be fair, the real way to look at the trade is Blues are now covered for a Dean bid (they'll use 9 for it or draft him there) and the other kid they have with 31,42 and 43. It is not the same as ours as Hawks effectively have bought pick 22, not pick 9 (it will be eaten by Dean making 10 the same pick anyway).

But I have to be fair and acknowledge another team has moved down for less points

 

[Eski3]

To be fair, the real way to look at the trade is Blues are now covered for a Dean bid (they'll use 9 for it or draft him there) and the other kid they have with 31,42 and 43. It is not the same as ours as Hawks effectively have bought pick 22, not pick 9 (it will be eaten by Dean making 10 the same pick anyway).

But I have to be fair and acknowledge another team has moved down for less points

I really don't mean to defend the trade - it's not a good trade and we could have done better. But people saying that we could have kept 12 and traded in McVee, or slipped back to 13 and got him, are straight up fantasy and not supported by literally any evidence at all

 

[largebus]

Has there been a trade this year with a players on either side of the deal? It's becoming like the NFL where every trade is a player for a bunch of picks.

Florent i get could be unofficially for Curnow

 

[freo_leo29]

You mean this one?



It's 9, 31, 42 and 43 for 10 and 22

Yeah so a 1 pick slide got pick 22

Exactly what you said couldn't happen??

 

[Taylor]

Clubs matching bids value later picks more by the look of it

 

[lint]

To be fair, the real way to look at the trade is Blues are now covered for a Dean bid (they'll use 9 for it or draft him there) and the other kid they have with 31,42 and 43. It is not the same as ours as Hawks effectively have bought pick 22, not pick 9 (it will be eaten by Dean making 10 the same pick anyway).

But I have to be fair and acknowledge another team has moved down for less points

In fact, Hawthorn lost 15% more draft points than we did in their slide down picks trade...

 

[freo_leo29]

To be fair, the real way to look at the trade is Blues are now covered for a Dean bid (they'll use 9 for it or draft him there) and the other kid they have with 31,42 and 43. It is not the same as ours as Hawks effectively have bought pick 22, not pick 9 (it will be eaten by Dean making 10 the same pick anyway).

But I have to be fair and acknowledge another team has moved down for less points

Yeah blues were happy to move down 22 for points

What this does show is 22 would have been available for points later in the week

I reckon a few other picks will be available (looking at you GC)