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Rumour GFC 2025 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 3

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2025 AFL Draft and Trade Dates:​

Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 Telstra AFL Draft
 
This whole idea of being able to match is a joke..

Why should you be able to suddenly “match” an offer that is higher than your own?? Why all of a sudden is the offer on the table when it previously wasn’t??

How is this genuinely an offer?? Where did that extra 300k come from?? And would the club actually accept giving you it??
Or.. is it just a load of b.s to force a trade…

How about we just scrap RFA and have free agency
Yep it is basically a load of BS. And it is also why I couldn't believe we traded for free agents, twice!! I still don't think any other club has actually done that have they?
 
So if I’m interpreting your post correctly, you’re critical of a result that never eventuated?
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I'm happy not to get curnow and Marshall. We put good offers for both of them and walked away when they wanted overs.

I'm more concerned on the lack of activity improving other parts of the list. Did we throw 3 x first round picks for any other players?

There were players available who didn't move clubs in the end that I would have grabbed.
Im concerned that we didn't have a 2nd option in regards to Marshall..
Going into 2026 as Stanley really as our no 1 ruck... Thats a huge concerned.
Especially Blitz is another year older..
Iv got huge hope in regards to Edwards but his 2 years away.
And Conway, his basically ( sadly due to his body ) is not made for AFL
 

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This whole idea of being able to match is a joke..

Why should you be able to suddenly “match” an offer that is higher than your own?? Why all of a sudden is the offer on the table when it previously wasn’t??

How is this genuinely an offer?? Where did that extra 300k come from?? And would the club actually accept giving you it??
Or.. is it just a load of b.s to force a trade…

How about we just scrap RFA and have free agency
I tell you what. If there were no RFA we'd get completely reamed by the devils.
As it stands, they can only take one.
 
Yes but the thought of round one pick you will receive a player ready to go. That’s far from the case in reality.

We’ve been lucky in the draft, but saying overs in regard to getting a ruck who’s still competing extremely well at the top of his game is hilarious.

Known quantity versus the unknown. A few don’t grasp that.
 
I can say with reliability that you underrate draft picks.
Yes and with reason. Those in the industry don’t and take them with a considered view of the unknown in connection to the known quantities of the tradable asset.

Take that also into consideration of two 35yos doing the ruck as is, with selecting a young kid who likely won’t play in their first year. That’s a risk either way.
 
Yes but the thought of round one pick you will receive a player ready to go. That’s far from the case in reality.

We’ve been lucky in the draft, but saying overs in regard to getting a ruck who’s still competing extremely well at the top of his game is hilarious.

Known quantity versus the unknown. A few don’t grasp that.
Well, we only traded out decent draft picks for 4 players from our grand final team (Dangerfield, Cameron, Stanley, Smith). So draft picks have been a pretty important part of our "rebuild on the run". Sacrificing them for the right player at a fair price is fine. Getting desperate and overpaying is not.
 

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Yes and with reason. Those in the industry don’t and take them with a considered view of the unknown in connection to the known quantities of the tradable asset.

Take that also into consideration of two 35yos doing the ruck as is, with selecting a young kid who likely won’t play in their first year. That’s a risk either way.
They weren't accepting our R1 and F2 pick for Marshall. He is a required player. There isn't much else to it. Would shuffling 3 other picks have helped? I doubt it.
 
Well, we only gave up decent draft picks for 4 players from our grand final team (Dangerfield, Cameron, Stanley, Smith). So draft picks have been a pretty important part of our "rebuild on the run". Sacrificing them for the right player at a fair price is fine. Getting desperate and overpaying is not.
I don’t call it desperate going after Marshall. It was extremely poor list management in the first place to place everything on Conway to save the ruck position.

We’ve got a very good side, with a weakness around the ground. Marshall isn’t a great tap ruck however, is a good clearance player and very good around the ground.

I think there’s too much value on draft picks considering the option of targeting a weakness and filling it.
 
I don’t call it desperate going after Marshall. It was extremely poor list management in the first place to place everything on Conway to save the ruck position.

We’ve got a very good side, with a weakness around the ground. Marshall isn’t a great tap ruck however, is a good clearance player and very good around the ground.

I think there’s too much value on draft picks considering the option of targeting a weakness and filling it.
What would you have paid for Marshall? He'd have been great but they wanted to keep him.
 
Yes but the thought of round one pick you will receive a player ready to go. That’s far from the case in reality.

We’ve been lucky in the draft, but saying overs in regard to getting a ruck who’s still competing extremely well at the top of his game is hilarious.

Known quantity versus the unknown. A few don’t grasp that.
Paying two firsts for the 6-10th best ruck in the game would've been ludicrous though. He's 30, not 25.

There's a line. Same with Curnow. It would've been great, but if COS is the price and they're not moving, then thankfully it didn't get done.

I don't hate it. I don't see us (or anyone else) getting near the QLD teams in 2026 anyway. As joe444 pointed out, paying a fortune to win the prelim by 7 goals instead of 5 isn't what we're about here.

Hopefully we can pick a gun kid or two in this year's draft and have them ready to go by 2027, when Brisbane have maaaaayybeee tuckered themselves out a bit after a three-peat.

Pick up a proper A-grade mid next year, and go all out for an assault in 2027 onwards when COS, Neale, Holmes, Smith, Humphries, Dempsey, Miers, Henry, Zuth, Mannagh, Worpel, Edwards, Stengle, SDK, and Butters/Walsh* are all either at their peak, or closer than they are now.

Providing we get at least two long term players out of this draft, I'd rather that then spending a fortune on Marshall.

He's good. He's not that good.
 
Problem for O Henry, is that he is in the same situation next season as he was this past season.

Having Dangerfield and him in the forward line together didn't work.
I agree with you, and it appears the coaches also agree with you, but perhaps the change in the substitute rule can allow both to play in the same team more regularly. Personally, I'd like to see Ollie H spend the off-season doing repeat sprints... maybe spend time with Ollie D's trainer who got him ready for the rigours of AFL football. Ollie H is a very talented player who could be an outright star if he is able to produce repeat efforts of just being in the contest. I've been telling my son things like "if you just get to 3 more contests per quarter that can be 12 more contests across the course of a game. You don't have to win the one-on-one every time or kick a goal every time but you may be able to stop the ball going into the opposition forward line which means you'll be restricting their scoring opportunities which makes it easier for your team to win", and he's become more conscious of that. Ollie H only needs to do 3 more selfless/team acts per quarter and the coaches and his team mates will notice... and maybe 1 in every 4 of those acts could result in him having another chance to shoot at goal. I'm not saying he's lazy (he's not!) but I am saying that just raising the bar a little bit more can produce great rewards.

Just my 2 cents.
 

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Problem for O Henry, is that he is in the same situation next season as he was this past season.

Having Dangerfield and him in the forward line together didn't work.
He didn't exactly dominate in the VFL when dropped, so I'm not buying it's just a positional thing.

The guy simply lost his mojo this year for whatever reason.

Hopefully it comes back... hard and fast.
 
Paying two firsts for the 6-10th best ruck in the game would've been ludicrous though. He's 30, not 25.

There's a line. Same with Curnow. It would've been great, but if COS is the price and they're not moving, then thankfully it didn't get done.

I don't hate it. I don't see us (or anyone else) getting near the QLD teams in 2026 anyway. As joe444 pointed out, paying a fortune to win the prelim by 7 goals instead of 5 isn't what we're about here.

Hopefully we can pick a gun kid or two in this year's draft and have them ready to go by 2027, when Brisbane have maaaaayybeee tuckered themselves out a bit after a three-peat.

Pick up a proper A-grade mid next year, and go all out for an assault in 2027 onwards when COS, Neale, Holmes, Smith, Humphries, Dempsey, Miers, Henry, Zuth, Mannagh, Worpel, Edwards, Stengle, SDK, and Butters/Walsh* are all either at their peak, or closer than they are now.

Providing we get at least two long term players out of this draft, I'd rather that then spending a fortune on Marshall.

He's good. He's not that good.
Yes all those things are what they are. I’m just pointing to a sense of overvaluing draft picks.
 
Yes all those things are what they are. I’m just pointing to a sense of overvaluing draft picks.

It sounds like we offered a fair bit for Marshall in the end. F1 plus extras. How much do you really think we should've offered?

I'm guessing Stkilda wouldn't have accepted 2x first rounders anyway and even if draft picks are overrated that's a huge amount to give up for Marshall.
 
What would you have paid for Marshall? He'd have been great but they wanted to keep him.

Yes that was an issue, however, I just think in general from watching these types of threads over the last 15 years or so, I have seen a considerable attachment to drafts equating a known quantity ie. A grade player that slots in and is ready to play.

In my view we offered the right amount of capital to make it happen. Which is why I see it not being ‘overs’ as a few have commented.
 
Yes all those things are what they are. I’m just pointing to a sense of overvaluing draft picks.
Changes quickly though. I agree they're often overvalued, but you still need them.

Trading out of three straight drafts for Baz (superstar, but has his issues) and a 30 year old ruck before Tassie comes in is the type of situation that could get us a documentary made in 10 years for exactly what not to do.

Part of the reason we are the club we are is we don't overpay for B-graders. Worpel a perfect example, if we're giving up 19 instead of nothing as a FA, then you walk away. It turns a net positive into a net negative.

If you become that club, you end up like Hinkley's port where every B-grader for years on end is the 'last piece of the puzzle' - and before too long, the middle falls out because you've got nothing coming through.
 

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