USA MAGA activist Charlie Kirk shot dead during Utah rally

[Gethelred]

Okay. We've probably had enough of a free for all.

There are still forum and site posting guidelines, and you will abide by them.

A few seem to be of the opinion that now is a good time to have a crack at moderators or moderation. I'd rather like to discourage that impulse so I'm going to make it explicit: a moderator on this forum is a poster like any other, and can share their views and have free use of the forum like any other. If you feel a post breaches the rules report it; attacking a mod for their posting or objecting to a post purely because a moderator said it is grounds for an infraction and some time off.

From here, if you cannot speak civilly, you will not be allowed to participate.

Thanks all.

 

[Saint]

The sobering thing for podcasters and influencers is how Charlie Kirk and the whole story has mostly dropped off the face of the earth. The only people still talking about it are fellow shallow podcasters who will be forgotten even quicker than Kirk (and people who listen to them and re-post it here).

 

[GreyCrow]

Serious ?

George Floyd protests in Portland, Oregon - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

How long ago

Come on man

 

[GreyCrow]

The sobering thing for podcasters and influencers is how Charlie Kirk and the whole story has mostly dropped off the face of the earth. The only people still talking about it are fellow shallow podcasters who will be forgotten even quicker than Kirk (and people who listen to them and re-post it here).

I had seen the Owens thoughts/conspiracy a few days after the neck shot and thought about posting in the interest of balance and putting the information on record but it just felt performative

 

[Ghost Patrol]

The sobering thing for podcasters and influencers is how Charlie Kirk and the whole story has mostly dropped off the face of the earth. The only people still talking about it are fellow shallow podcasters who will be forgotten even quicker than Kirk (and people who listen to them and re-post it here).

Damn, I thought we were gonna get another public holiday, what with him being the second coming of Jesus and all that.

 

[Gough]

The sobering thing for podcasters and influencers is how Charlie Kirk and the whole story has mostly dropped off the face of the earth. The only people still talking about it are fellow shallow podcasters who will be forgotten even quicker than Kirk (and people who listen to them and re-post it here).

For the MAGA crowd these guys are like disposable nappies. Useful until they fill up with too much shit, and then they bin them and find another one. Kirk's euthanasia probably saved him from going the way of Milo whatisname or Jordan Peterson.

 

[bourbons]

Serious ?

George Floyd protests in Portland, Oregon - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Ah, I thought you were talking currently.

 

[Saint]

I had seen the Owens thoughts/conspiracy a few days after the neck shot and thought about posting in the interest of balance and putting the information on record but it just felt performative

The podcasters have become like reality TV shows or Pro Wrestling.

They spend all their time talking about each other and what other podcasters are saying and it become a self-perpetuating cycle of "influence" with an ever-narrowing crowd until they disappear from relevance.

 

[awaremind]

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Ah, I thought you were talking currently.

Not that long ago, and had trump not being bring the marines/national guard in, it would be a high likelihood of it happening again.

I find this response disingenuous , you are smarter than that mate.

 

[awaremind]

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The podcasters have become like reality TV shows or Pro Wrestling.

They spend all their time talking about each other and what other podcasters are saying and it become a self-perpetuating cycle of "influence" with an ever-narrowing crowd until they disappear from relevance.

Owens is getting mega numbers on social media, and it’s because a rising number of both left and right politically aware people realise she’s actually uncovering a lot of strange and sick goings on among the political elite.

I think Candace has a lot of interesting info that ck gave her and as she said she’s “fishing “ with it, using it as bait to hook the guilty parties into lying about it.
Candace would probably win a presidential tilt rn

 

[awaremind]

The podcasters have become like reality TV shows or Pro Wrestling.

They spend all their time talking about each other and what other podcasters are saying and it become a self-perpetuating cycle of "influence" with an ever-narrowing crowd until they disappear from relevance.

I’d like to see some numbers on that…

Joes still doing pretty damn good—-


Tuckers going ok

 

[bourbons]

Not that long ago, and had trump not being bring the marines/national guard in, it would be a high likelihood of it happening again.

I find this response disingenuous, you are smarter than that mate.

What would happen again is people protesting against fashy authoritarian tactics, as is their constitutionally enshrined right.

I find this response disingenuous , you are smarter than that mate.

Not at all, I was being completely genuine. More people than there should be seem susceptible to Trump's bullshit regarding "chaos" and "American cities burning".

Categorically, this has not happened at any stage this year whether the national guard was present or not.

 

[awaremind]

How long ago

Come on man

That’s not long at all, and if you can explain what’s changed from the Democrat side that these kind of actions are no longer on the cards? I think they have been attempting to instigate public unrest since at least the first pushback against the Ice raids in LA.

 

[GreyCrow]

That’s not long at all, and if you can explain what’s changed from the Democrat side that these kind of actions are no longer on the cards? I think they have been attempting to instigate public unrest since at least the first pushback against the Ice raids in LA.

The Democrats did nothing because there was nothing to do

I am so sorry you see bad men everywhere you look - but it doesnt mean there are bad men everywhere

 

[awaremind]

I find this response disingenuous, you are smarter than that mate.

What would happen again is people protesting against fashy authoritarian tactics, as is their constitutionally enshrined right.


Not at all, I was being completely genuine. More people than there should be seem to susceptible to Trump's bullshit regarding "chaos" and "American cities burning".

Categorically, this has not happened at any stage this year whether the national guard was present or not.

Don’t you think we are another George Floyd like incident from that environment ? I could easily foresee some cities having serious riot or takeover type activity again. To be fair the unrest seems to be building up around the entire “western empire” .

 

[GreyCrow]

Ca Owens is getting mega numbers on social media, and it’s because a rising number of both left and right politically aware people realise she’s actually uncovering a lot of strange and sick goings on among the political elite.

Yet never mentions the Pedophile in Chief?

I think Candace has a lot of interesting info that ck gave her and as she said she’s “fishing “ with it, using it as bait to hook the guilty parties into lying about it.
Candace would probably win a presidential tilt rn

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[Gough]

Don’t you think we are another George Floyd like incident from that environment ? I could easily foresee some cities having serious riot or takeover type activity again. To be fair the unrest seems to be building up around the entire “western empire” .

I think Trump is aching for another George Floyd. He wants to turn the army on the people.

 

[bourbons]

Don’t you think we are another George Floyd like incident from that environment ? I could easily foresee some cities having serious riot or takeover type activity again.

Sorry, are you saying another George Floyd like incident is more likely these days? If so I completely agree, in the US currently you've got staggeringly unfit untrained racist violent goons running around with badges, guns and complete impunity.

Protests needed more than ever one would think and no, I don't believe the possibility that some may turn violent and get out of control means they should be prevented with military force against citizens. Not exactly an outrageous take I would have thought

Like I said, they haven't gotten violent so far this year over there whether the national guard was present or not. Look no further than the recent No Kings thing, 7 million across the country that Trump and his enablers promised would be filled with violent thugs and terrorists. Completely peaceful, the best Donnie & co could come up with after the fact were a few questionable signs

To be fair the unrest seems to be building up around the entire “western empire” .

Could just be your algo? People telling you that this is the case in absence of any proof ie. exactly what Trump & co are doing?

 

[bourbons]

Yet never mentions the Pedophile in Chief?

None of them ever do.

Rogan and bro podcasters another example, saying this isn't what I voted for and not real happy with the way things are going etc - they'll never directly critique/attack dear leader and call him out by name though.

 

[awaremind]

Sorry, are you saying another George Floyd like incident is more likely these days? If so I completely agree, in the US currently you've got staggeringly unfit untrained racist violent goons running around with badges, guns and complete impunity.

Protests needed more than ever one would think and no, I don't believe the possibility that some may turn violent and get out of control means they should be prevented with military force against citizens. Not exactly an outrageous take I would have thought

Like I said, they haven't gotten violent so far this year over there whether the national guard was present or not. Look no further than the recent No Kings thing, 7 million across the country that Trump and his enablers promised would be filled with violent thugs and terrorists. Completely peaceful, the best Donnie & co could come up with after the fact were a few questionable signs


Could just be your algo? People telling you that this is the case in absence of any proof ie. exactly what Trump & co are doing?

No , it’s the videos of huge protests in France, England Germany Italy etc.

 

[awaremind]

None of them ever do.

Rogan and bro podcasters another example, saying this isn't what I voted for and not real happy with the way things are going etc - they'll never directly critique/attack dear leader and call him out by name though.

Kirk got it just for going slightly off narrative, Candace is probably suicidal, and I bet Tucker stays armed and has a private army. There’s for sure a risk to your life for saying the wrong words rn.

 

[bourbons]

I think Trump is aching for another George Floyd. He wants to turn the army on the people.

Yep, absolutely gagging to unleash state violence on the populace. Thats what all the framing protesters as violent thugs/terrorists and "chaos/cities are burning" bullshit is about.

And continue the de-sensitization of the public to seeing military on the streets so he can deploy them as he sees fit during the mid terms in '26.

 

[bourbons]

No , it’s the videos of huge protests in France, England Germany Italy etc.

Fair enough, I was talking the US context.

 

[bourbons]

Kirk got it just for going slightly off narrative, Candace is probably suicidal, and I bet Tucker stays armed and has a private army. There’s for sure a risk to your life for saying the wrong words rn.

Yep, its all going great over there isn't it, no notes

 

[awaremind]

Yet never mentions the Pedophile in Chief?

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Is this kind of personal attack allowed

 

[awaremind]

Yep, its all going great over there isn't it, no notes

The fight within the right is fiercer than between left and right atm imo.