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Thanks all.

 

[Festerz]

Naughty language alert.

 

[Saint]

That's offensive to pieces of excrement. The evil campaigner was going in to bat for MBS on the matter of his abhorrent execution of Jamal Khashoggi in 2018. It never ****ing ends.

Puuuuuuhhhhhhhleaaase.

Why are these American journalists now so worried about an American journalist being killed, when they let Israel kill hundreds?

America executed Venezuelans on a boat without any legal precedent or reason.

If Trump visited Australia, do you think any Australian journalist would ask him, in front of Albanese, if he r*ped E. Jean Carroll?

The double and triple-standards here are ridiculous.

 

[undefined]

Puuuuuuhhhhhhhleaaase.

Why are these American journalists now so worried about an American journalist being killed, when they let Israel kill hundreds?

America executed Venezuelans on a boat without any legal precedent or reason.

If Trump visited Australia, do you think any Australian journalist would ask him, in front of Albanese, if he r*ped E. Jean Carroll?

The double and triple-standards here are ridiculous.

He was Saudi. And it's a direct contradiction of CIA intel. The man acts entirely as a means to benefit himself. There's very little system, here. And that's why the rats will eventually jump ship. 10 months in - MTG is a pygmy mouse but there will be tremors from the (highly redacted) files being released.

 

[Mick F]

The problem they have is that the Epstein files held by the US are almost certainly also held by Isreal and Russia, and probably others. And they'll be an even stronger bargaining chip against Trump if the US release of the files comprise heavily edited versions.

The compromised orange turd is about to become even more compromised.

Tres astute!

 

[GrayRanga]

Naughty language alert.

Can somebody please give me some advice?

If Trump was to sue the BBC, I assume that the Court Case would have to be held in the UK?

Can't imagine a US Court making a legally binding verdict on a UK Corporation based in the UK

Can a US Court make a Court Order demanding money from a UK Corporation and enforce it?

If the Court case was held in the UK, that would mean that it would be subject to the UK Law, Legal rules and Practices.

I could imagine a whole lot of UK barristers putting their hand up to work pro bono (Geoffrey Robertson?) to put Trump in the witness box and explore how he had been defamed and ask some pertinent questions about some of his other actions.

It is not unknown for UK Courts to impose penalties of the least coin in the realm upon the defendents in similar cases

Does SCOTUS decisions have any bearing upon UK Courts?

Donny TACO will hope that the American voting public will just forget again

 

[BFew]

3) Trump needs to be called out for not caring about the victims, especially when he refers to it as a hoax.

Trump only cares about one victim related to the Epstein files.
Himself.

 

[BFew]

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In the White House, Trump is probably in No. 1 position when it comes to going wee wee wee wee, all the way home.

 

[JackOutback]

Puuuuuuhhhhhhhleaaase.

Why are these American journalists now so worried about an American journalist being killed, when they let Israel kill hundreds?

America executed Venezuelans on a boat without any legal precedent or reason.

If Trump visited Australia, do you think any Australian journalist would ask him, in front of Albanese, if he r*ped E. Jean Carroll?

The double and triple-standards here are ridiculous.

That the US can be hypocritical and contradictory doesn't negate the point. The murder of Kashoggi was abhorrent.

 

[Festerz]

Can somebody please give me some advice?

If Trump was to sue the BBC, I assume that the Court Case would have to be held in the UK?

Can't imagine a US Court making a legally binding verdict on a UK Corporation based in the UK

Can a US Court make a Court Order demanding money from a UK Corporation and enforce it?

If the Court case was held in the UK, that would mean that it would be subject to the UK Law, Legal rules and Practices.

I could imagine a whole lot of UK barristers putting their hand up to work pro bono (Geoffrey Robertson?) to put Trump in the witness box and explore how he had been defamed and ask some pertinent questions about some of his other actions.

It is not unknown for UK Courts to impose penalties of the least coin in the realm upon the defendents in similar cases

Does SCOTUS decisions have any bearing upon UK Courts?

Donny TACO will hope that the American voting public will just forget again

This might be of use…

Trump vs the BBC: What hurdles might the president's legal argument face?

If he were to bring a defamation case in Florida, experts say he would need to prove three major components.

www.bbc.com

 

[Saint]

That the US can be hypocritical and contradictory doesn't negate the point. The murder of Kashoggi was abhorrent.

That murder was 7 years ago. The USA has committed a genocide and negligently led hundreds of thousands of COVID victims die.

Saudi Arabia has executed hundreds of people this year.

It's not so much the outrage about a journalists' murder, it's that they fixate on one from 7 years ago from one ally and never question the murder of Shireen Abu Akleh when Bibi is in town. They never even ask questions like this. It's practically bigotry the way crimes of certain countries are ignored and others are amplified.

 

[GreyCrow]

This might be of use…

Trump vs the BBC: What hurdles might the president's legal argument face?

If he were to bring a defamation case in Florida, experts say he would need to prove three major components.

www.bbc.com

Thanks - to me it doesnt have legs


I get the feeling - as I always do with Trump - its a shakedown where he hopes to bluster some money out of someone

 

[JackOutback]

Thanks - to me it doesnt have legs


I get the feeling - as I always do with Trump - its a shakedown where he hopes to bluster some money out of someone

It's pretty much his only strategy, but the BBC won't bow down the same way America's billionaire class has. First of all, they are responsible to the British taxpayer.

 

[Festerz]

Thanks - to me it doesnt have legs


I get the feeling - as I always do with Trump - its a shakedown where he hopes to bluster some money out of someone

Absolutely.

Trump’s cowardly bully boy tactics apply as much to his legal threats as they do to every other aspect of his life.

Australia’s defamation laws are far more litigant friendly than either the US or the UK btw. But that is a subject for another thread.

 

[NSWCROW]

mike johnson like

 

[GreyCrow]

mike johnson like

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Mike - you dont care about Epstein now

 

[IKnowtheDog]

Absolutely.

Trump’s cowardly bully boy tactics apply as much to his legal threats as they do to every other aspect of his life.

Australia’s defamation laws are far more litigant friendly than either the US or the UK btw. But that is a subject for another thread.

Also Australia’s political system doesn’t have the Prime Minister sign off on merger and acquisition arrangements.

You want to get things done with Trump you need to bribe him like a child.

 

[Sixpence]

That murder was 7 years ago. The USA has committed a genocide and negligently led hundreds of thousands of COVID victims die.

Saudi Arabia has executed hundreds of people this year.

It's not so much the outrage about a journalists' murder, it's that they fixate on one from 7 years ago from one ally and never question the murder of Shireen Abu Akleh when Bibi is in town. They never even ask questions like this. It's practically bigotry the way crimes of certain countries are ignored and others are amplified.

This is a whataboutism. Is there a time limit to ask hard hitting questions? Does that question need to mention the countless other atrocities to be valid? They got an opportunity to ask and they took it.

 

[TheSunGod]

Now they’ve just got to scrub the 1000 FBI agents they had go through the files to eliminate any whistleblowers.

 

[IKnowtheDog]

I guess this is why boxers, golfers, comedians, footballers, snooker players took the stance they have.

The issue of 9/11 is going to be forgotten amongst a certain band of influencers

 

[rumply]

 

[Cooldude]

It'd be so funny if he vetos it, then it's a limus test on who supports pedos vs who don't

 

[rumply]

The Department of Justice (DOJ) could potentially withhold or redact portions of the Epstein files by citing ongoing investigations, even after President Trump signs the Epstein Files Transparency Act into law. However, this authority is strictly limited by the bill's language to ensure the exception isn't abused as a broad loophole.Key Provisions from the BillThe legislation (H.R. 4405, as passed) mandates that the Attorney General publicly release all unclassified records, documents, communications, and investigative materials related to Jeffrey Epstein within 30 days of enactment, in a searchable and downloadable format. This covers a wide scope, including:

• Epstein's investigations, prosecutions, and custodial matters.
• Materials on Ghislaine Maxwell.
• Flight logs and travel records.
• References to individuals (including government officials) connected to Epstein's criminal activities, settlements, plea agreements, or proceedings.
• Immunity deals, non-prosecution agreements, and internal DOJ communications on charging decisions.
• Documentation of Epstein's death and any evidence destruction or concealment.

But under Section 2(b)(1)(C), the Attorney General may withhold or redact specific information if its release "would jeopardize an active federal investigation or ongoing prosecution, provided that such withholding is narrowly tailored and temporary." Additional permitted exemptions include:

• Personally identifiable information of victims or child witnesses (to protect privacy).
• Depictions of child pornography, abuse, death, or injury.
• Properly classified national security information.

The bill explicitly prohibits withholding on grounds like "embarrassment, reputational harm, or political sensitivity" to any official, public figure, or foreign dignitary—aiming to prevent selective cover-ups.Oversight and AccountabilityTo curb potential overreach:

• Within 15 days after the 30-day release deadline, the DOJ must submit a report to Congress detailing:
  • All categories of released and withheld information.
  • A summary of redactions and their legal basis.
  • A list of all government officials and "politically exposed persons" named or referenced in the released materials.
• This transparency mechanism allows Congress to scrutinize claims of ongoing investigations and potentially challenge excessive withholdings through oversight hearings or further legislation.

Potential for DOJ to Block Releases

• Legitimate use: If there's a genuine, active probe (e.g., into Epstein associates), the DOJ could temporarily shield narrowly relevant documents to avoid tipping off suspects or compromising evidence. Prior to the bill's passage, no major ongoing Epstein-specific federal investigations were publicly known, but President Trump recently (November 15, 2025) directed the DOJ to launch a new one targeting Epstein's ties to Democrats like Bill Clinton and entities like JP Morgan Chase. Critics, including Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY, a bill co-sponsor), have called this a possible "smoke screen" to justify broader delays.
• Limitations and risks: Withholdings must be "narrowly tailored" (e.g., redacting only specific names or details, not entire files) and "temporary" (implying eventual release once the investigation concludes). The bill's drafters emphasized victim protection over investigation excuses, and sources like former Trump lawyer Ty Cobb have predicted Attorney General Pam Bondi might test these boundaries, potentially leading to legal challenges or congressional pushback.
• Executive privilege angle: Separately, the White House could assert privilege over certain communications, but the bill focuses on DOJ-held unclassified materials, and such claims would likely face court scrutiny.

In short, while the DOJ has this tool, the bill's safeguards make blanket blocking unlikely without significant backlash. As of November 19, 2025, Trump has indicated he intends to sign, which would trigger the 30-day clock—watch for the DOJ's report for clues on any withheld portions.

 

[rumply]

It'd be so funny if he vetos it, then it's a limus test on who supports pedos vs who don't

Apparently his veto could be overwritten by both houses having a greater than 2/3rds majority voting on favour of the release, so it's likely he will sign then rely on the DOJ to do what they can to block & delay. But even the DOJ's power in that area appears to be limited. So shit might just get real after all.

 

[rumply]

It's been quite a day for Trump:

• House votes 427-1 to release the Epstein files, a veto-proof+ majority
• A federal judge blocked GOP redistricting map in Texas, meaning net net with CA measure passed, Democrats could pick up seats for 2026, KARMA!
• A federal appeals court, including two Trump appointed judges, rejected Trump's defamation lawsuit against CNN over the term "Big Lie," finding the case meritless
• Corporate Public Broadcasting agree to fulfill its $36 million annual contract with NPR, after a judge told Trump appointees at CPB that their defense was not credible
• A NY judge dismissed Trump's calling of New York's law barring immigration arrests in state and local courthouses.

 

[liz]

It's been quite a day for Trump:

• House votes 427-1 to release the Epstein files, a veto-proof+ majority
• A federal judge blocked GOP redistricting map in Texas, meaning net net with CA measure passed, Democrats could pick up seats for 2026, KARMA!
• A federal appeals court, including two Trump appointed judges, rejected Trump's defamation lawsuit against CNN over the term "Big Lie," finding the case meritless
• Corporate Public Broadcasting agree to fulfill its $36 million annual contract with NPR, after a judge told Trump appointees at CPB that their defense was not credible
• A NY judge dismissed Trump's calling of New York's law barring immigration arrests in state and local courthouses.

I’ve not read the resolution voted on by the Californian electorate, but based on what I’ve heard and read about it, it only takes effect if red states are able to gerrymander in the other direction. It is aimed at preserving the status quo re current seat leanings, rather than gain a blue advantage in the next election.