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I just dont think what's holding back Gerryn, Mcmahon from engaging in contested marking and neutralising contest compared to say a L.Morris?

McMahon doesn't have the size to be a reliably strong contested mark against the best opposition defenders. So there's that. You wouldn't expect him to go toe-to-toe with a Weitering all game and halve those contests if you had another option. That's where a guy like Wright or May with much heavier frames would be expected to go to work.
 
This was a name I liked pre-draft. Developing Ruck would be handy and has a lot of upside. Also comes from a basketball background. Did you know Pendlebury also came from a similar background, and he went OK.

Looks a really fluent mover and has some decent tap craft, I would certainly prefer to have potentially one too many rucks, than one too many 3rd tall key forwards.
 
But then that blows the whole theory

Logan Morris was their main guy and is 191, he just won a premiership, hes 191. Gallop a 5th gamer played next to him, hes 194

Edwards, Mcmahon, Harry Jones, Gerryn are all this size if not bigger and much more physically mature. Not to mention Langford is Logan Morris size

Sullivan Robey is bigger than L.Morris

This is a really weird hill to die on.
 

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McMahon doesn't have the size to be a reliably strong contested mark against the best opposition defenders. So there's that. You wouldn't expect him to go toe-to-toe with a Weitering all game and halve those contests if you had another option. That's where a guy like Wright or May with much heavier frames would be expected to go to work.
Wahhh. Hes 198. 7cm on Morris

How much heavier is May over Mcmahon? Both same height

Weitering youve picked the biggest KPD

What about cats with SDK?
Crows with Keane? Ect
 
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So you dont think Mcmahon is capable of being a 'key' forward ?

And then we still have 2MP, May and Gerryn who you think are? On the list anyway. So probably not required if your just picking 1 to contest vs SDK, Keane?

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Really putting the Agony into your posting today
 
Its a shame we could have had a early pick (#4) in the rookie draft and miss our opportunity.

We can't delist anyone today?

Hibbons-Hargreaves was talked as a possible pick at 5,6,7 early in the year when could have had Draper pick.

Greeves a power mid who can push forward and is a good user.

Rodriguez talented mid with pace.

Leon Kickett - high flying small forward with pace.
 

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Its a shame we could have had a early pick (#4) in the rookie draft and miss our opportunity.

We can't delist anyone today?

Hibbons-Hargreaves was talked as a possible pick at 5,6,7 early in the year when could have had Draper pick.

Greeves a power mid who can push forward and is a good user.

Rodriguez talented mid with pace.

Leon Kickett - high flying small forward with pace.
It's no big deal. Clubs passed on them all multiple times, there's almost certainly something about them that every recruiter identified as making them extremely unlikely to succeed despite external draft 'experts' rating them highly
 
It's no big deal. Clubs passed on them all multiple times, there's almost certainly something about them that every recruiter identified as making them extremely unlikely to succeed despite external draft 'experts' rating them highly
Spot on

My reasoning they dont really fit a spot

I like NHH he seems a natural footballer.

Doesnt have the speed, running power to be a fwd, doesnt have the aggression/inside game to be an onballer

Hes a nice kick and decision maker for me that comes at a good size

Half back his best spot at Top level and he doesnt have the zip on rebound, defensive ability maybe for that either

I still think both find a way onto a list. I rate Onley over both
 

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But then that blows the whole theory

Logan Morris was their main guy and is 191, he just won a premiership, hes 191. Gallop a 5th gamer played next to him, hes 194

Edwards, Mcmahon, Harry Jones, Gerryn are all this size if not bigger and much more physically mature. Not to mention Langford is Logan Morris size

Sullivan Robey is bigger than L.Morris

Imperfect teams regularly win premierships.

The lions just spent a combined 2M a season (>15% of their salary cap) on Oscar Allen and Sam Draper. It’s fair to say they think it’s important.

Also McMahon and Gerryn are KPFs by every conventional definition. Jones has the height but is too slight
 
3 18 year olds taken in the whole rookie draft on my count.

Reckon things need reviewing if the same amount of 30 year olds are being drafted in the rookie draft as actual kids
 
3 18 year olds taken in the whole rookie draft on my count.

Reckon things need reviewing if the same amount of 30 year olds are being drafted in the rookie draft as actual kids
6 new faces in total, the rest were re-rookied. Twomey mentioned that they'll probably look at having a mechanism to make those sorts of changes without having to be read out in the rookie draft in future coz it's a bit stupid.
 
3 18 year olds taken in the whole rookie draft on my count.

Reckon things need reviewing if the same amount of 30 year olds are being drafted in the rookie draft as actual kids
Rookie draft or list management revamp??

Genuinely absurd the AFL allows this to continue
 
IMO they should reduce the number of generic rookie list spots but increase the Cat B and first nations specific spots. Maybe add an additional category for 18yos only or something too.
They should abolish the Cat A list. Just have a list of 42. Then the Cat B can just be the rookie list
 

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