The Bigfooty Liverpool Thread - Champions of England

[Lefti93]

Klopp would've played Ramsay tonight, and Gomez, perhaps Chiesa too. Playing the same team that he played against Forest (Hugo for Isak). WTF are you doing campaigner? You can't defend that shit. I'm not sure if I want him sacked yet, but that is inexcusable.

 

[GOALden Hawk]

Yeah it’s the lack of consequences for poor form that I think is frustrating the fans the most.

 

[Stottzy]

Slot is one bad game away from the sack. Would have been already had it not been for the title.

 

[The Punter]

We dominate for 20-30 minutes, don't put the gap in the game, go the other end and concede. Going to take a break from following them so closely for a little while: highlights rather than full games.

 

[Zidane98]

Surely we weren’t relying on a 19 year old to be a regular starter, as promising as he looked in his only start.

And Gomez is Gomez, haven’t been able to rely on him ever.

Slot was asked about it pre-season when we played Endo at CB in a game and he said he had plenty of options there, so he has to wear all the blame for that.

No, we were relying on him to put pressure on Ibou & VVD.

 

[kane249]

Slot is one bad game away from the sack. Would have been already had it not been for the title.

Should be now, getting gone 3-0 and 4-1 in the same week at home is unforgivable with all the other results as well

 

[jod23]

In a real hole now. It's not often you see a manager turn it around from here so I think it's just a matter of time for Slot unfortunately.

We never look like scoring and we concede pretty easily. You wont win games like that. It's not entirely on Slot though, I think almost everybody outside of Dom has been utter trash this season.

Having said that, Slot refuses to rotate the squad and drop players who are out of form. He also refuses to play players who might help, we are siphoning goals. Grav isnt a DM. Endo is. Mo is horrendously out of form. Chiesa cant get a look in. Gakpo horrible, no faith in Rio, Mac Allister awful... I mean we dont have a replacement, but maybe playing Endo releases Grav further up the pitch to gather and turn on players like he does. Konate awful, refuses to play Gomez, Kerkez dodgy but keeps getting in the team ahead of Robbo. Wont play a natural RB in favour of midfielders....

A mess.

Oh and Isak looked deadly for Newcastle, he can barely touch the football with us. Whatever we're doing with him, is wrong.

Weird situation to be in when we're the reigning champions. A complete 180. So bizarre.

 

[jod23]

Oh and on Slot, I dont think he gets sacked yet. We dont even have a replacement ready and its not a caretaker situation as we have an entire season still to play. He's on really, really thin ice and I'd dare say behind the scenes we're probably starting to look at who's out there and who's available.

 

[RossFC]

We had the option to go 12 on the bench, he’s gone with 9 including 2 keepers and made only 2 subs.

He hates rotation and he hates youth players. Why did we bother going into this season paying Endo and Gomez’s wages if we were never going to use them.

 

[Lefti93]

7 goals conceded at Anfield in 5 days. The club needs to make a statement in January, I'd tell Konate commit or you're sold in Jan. Splash the cash for Semenyo and Guehi, not that I think that changes our season, but it puts everyone else on notice. If Madrid want Macca in the summer then I'm okay with that, we need a proper 6. I don't know wtf Macca has been doing this season, he's been my favourite player too.

The problem is, there's 7 games left till the Jan window opens, who knows how much worse things can get till then. Slot has a lot to do, we had bad runs under Klopp in 2021 and 2022/23 but this is uncharted territory for us since Roy tbh.

 

[Lefti93]

In a real hole now. It's not often you see a manager turn it around from here so I think it's just a matter of time for Slot unfortunately.

We never look like scoring and we concede pretty easily. You wont win games like that. It's not entirely on Slot though, I think almost everybody outside of Dom has been utter trash this season.

Having said that, Slot refuses to rotate the squad and drop players who are out of form. He also refuses to play players who might help, we are siphoning goals. Grav isnt a DM. Endo is. Mo is horrendously out of form. Chiesa cant get a look in. Gakpo horrible, no faith in Rio, Mac Allister awful... I mean we dont have a replacement, but maybe playing Endo releases Grav further up the pitch to gather and turn on players like he does. Konate awful, refuses to play Gomez, Kerkez dodgy but keeps getting in the team ahead of Robbo. Wont play a natural RB in favour of midfielders....

A mess.

Oh and Isak looked deadly for Newcastle, he can barely touch the football with us. Whatever we're doing with him, is wrong.

Weird situation to be in when we're the reigning champions. A complete 180. So bizarre.

I agree, the players have been utter trash. Is that on the club/Slot not foreseeing the potential downfall of a 34yo Virgil, 33yo Mo, OOC Konate, the 2 CB's in particular without experienced and reliable depth? As mentioned above, wtf was the point of keeping Endo and Gomez? We spent half the summer dicking around with Newcastle over 10-15 mil, we could've gone harder for Guehi or another CB if we'd really wanted to.

 

[JLC]

The problem for Slot is that we identified our main weakness in pre season - 20 games later it still isn't fixed or getting close to fixed.

 

[QuietB]

Oh and on Slot, I dont think he gets sacked yet. We dont even have a replacement ready and its not a caretaker situation as we have an entire season still to play. He's on really, really thin ice and I'd dare say behind the scenes we're probably starting to look at who's out there and who's available.

Alonso might be available soon

 

[JLC]

The problem for Slot is that we identified our main weakness in pre season - 20 games later it still isn't fixed or getting close to fixed.

 

[JLC]

7 goals conceded at Anfield in 5 days. The club needs to make a statement in January, I'd tell Konate commit or you're sold in Jan. Splash the cash for Semenyo and Guehi, not that I think that changes our season, but it puts everyone else on notice. If Madrid want Macca in the summer then I'm okay with that, we need a proper 6. I don't know wtf Macca has been doing this season, he's been my favourite player too.

The problem is, there's 7 games left till the Jan window opens, who knows how much worse things can get till then. Slot has a lot to do, we had bad runs under Klopp in 2021 and 2022/23 but this is uncharted territory for us since Roy tbh.

If you wanna make a statement then drop Konate and **** him off asap.

The club if serious should be on the phone to Klopp.

 

[largebus]

This situation looks terminal sadly. First it was a few narrow last minute defeats now we're barely competitive

 

[_Cerberus_]

Liverpool has lost by three goals for the third straight game for the first time since December 1953.

 

[Foxman98]

OUT: Slot, Gakpo, Konate
IN: Ange, Semenyo, Guehi

Still need a genuine 6 as well for mine Szobo and Grav are both great 8's but don't cover the back 4 up enough

 

[RossFC]

OUT: Slot, Gakpo, Konate
IN: Ange, Semenyo, Guehi

Still need a genuine 6 as well for mine Szobo and Grav are both great 8's but don't cover the back 4 up enough

We need a coach that knows how to set up a defence. Ange is probably the worst candidate imaginable for that.

 

[SC_Power]

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OUT: Slot, Gakpo, Konate
IN: Ange, Semenyo, Guehi

Still need a genuine 6 as well for mine Szobo and Grav are both great 8's but don't cover the back 4 up enough

You lost me at Ange.

Unless you want us in the Championship.

 

[Foxman98]

We need a coach that knows how to set up a defence. Ange is probably the worst candidate imaginable for that.

This is a very common misconception with Ange's teams,

Once his system is in place properly his teams are defensively sound

Brisbane were either 1st or 2nd for their 2 Championships for GA and miles in front for GF

Socceroo's conceded 3 goals but scored 14 when he won the asian cup

J League he conceded more then usual but again the scoring was so far and away better the GD was huge

Celtic he conceded 9 fewer then Ranger in his first season most of which came in the first handful of games

His high pressure always on the attack gamestyle puts teams so far on the back foot and defensively they struggle to get guilt edge opportunities to score and with our abundance of attacking talent and now lack of defensive issue it would be better to play to our strengths not weaknesses like Slot now

 

[The Punter]

The knock in Ange is he doesn't go defensive when the game situation calls for it. Down two men against Chelsea in 2023, keep the high line.

We don't need a third non-pragmatist in a row if that is the problem that has been identified.

 

[GOALden Hawk]

Ekiteke back issue, so who knows how long that will be.

 

[GOALden Hawk]

Ange is at his best when he gets a summer to work with the squad on his style and then bring in players to complement it.

The Forest disaster was partly because he has a style that definitely takes time to adjust to, and you need the cattle. Bringing him in now with no opportunity to change the squad would be a mistake, and I still rate Ange.

We can’t just stumble into a panic appointment who is worse.

Man, I can’t believe we are discussing this after last season, it’s so bitterly disappointing. At least in the Roy era we had no expectations.

 

[The Punter]