Europe War in Ukraine - Thread 5 - thread rules updated

[wannabejack]

Ukraine 'ready for elections' if partners guarantee security, Zelensky says

He was speaking after US President Donald Trump repeated claims Kyiv was "using war" to avoid elections.

www.bbc.com

 

[CD Xbow]

A Russian Antonov An-22 fell out of the sky on Tuesday and killed the crew. These were craft that were supposed to be retired a while ago but presumably keep flying as the Russians are short of heavy lift craft.

There’s Likely No Way Back For Russia’s An-22 Turboprop Heavy Transports After Fatal Crash

The An-22 that crashed was reportedly the last airworthy example of what was once the world’s heaviest aircraft. The An-22 that crashed was reportedly the last airworthy example of what was once the world’s heaviest aircraft.

www.twz.com

"While it still operates significant numbers of Il-76s, in terms of heavy transports, Russia has also failed to reinstate production of the An-124. The main problem has been a lack of suitable engines — the original D-18T turbofan is manufactured by Motor Sich at its plant in Zaporizhzhia, Ukraine. Meanwhile, Motor Sich is also the only company capable of overhauling these engines, reducing the availability of the Russian An-124 fleet. This factor also may have driven the An-22’s planned return to service."

I guess if you plan to take Ukraine in 2 weeks I you expect to be able to get your engines overhauled by Motor Sich. Shame really.

 

[Zidane98]

There's a few candidates in these threads who this could be

 

[Couch Coach]

 

[Zidane98]

A look inside operation spiderweb.

Drones were delivered by unwitting Russian truck drivers believing they were animal tracking drones lol

 

[Zidane98]

Boom.

 

[Zidane98]

Russians copping a pummeling



At this stage it makes complete sense for Pedo Putin to withdraw from Ukraine, protect Russian oil industries and end the war.

 

[Aussie in exile]

Russians copping a pummeling



At this stage it makes complete sense for Pedo Putin to withdraw from Ukraine, protect Russian oil industries and end the war.

Zero chance of him doing that, as this war is all about his ego, and he doesn't care how many russian soldiers die. Ukraine has to continue to do what it's doing, and eventually someone in russia will do to putin what needs to be done to end this madness on his part.
These attacks on russian oil refineries, and russian infrastructure's will eventually make the penny drop for a majority of russians.
Keep up the good work Ukraine.

 

[Zidane98]

Coming soon to Black/Baltic seas:

No maritime vessels allowed without full insurance and none allowed sailing with flags of convenience.


Turkey/Denmark can take that step and label it a special maritime operation.


Leave Pedo Putin with overland oil pipelines and pacific ports only to make money on.

 

[Zidane98]

There are problems with the Russian economy.

However it's all going great:

 

[Zidane98]

Watch this old video of Pedo Putin and see if you notice anything

 

[Aussie in exile]

Watch this old video of Pedo Putin and see if you notice anything

So there it is.
Lets see how our russian apologist's react to the, and one thing for sure they won't like it as there is no denying that the poison dwarf is saying it.

 

[Mobbs]

I see the incorrect word "coup" has been sneaking past the keeper a bit again recently.

 

[Wce17]

For all the talk about Ukraine being encircled in Pokrovsk & Myrnohrad going on reports it seems Russians are in trouble and semi encircled in Kypyansk against the Oksil River & Ukraine have cut there supply line to the troops stuck there.

 

[Zidane98]

This is the future dodgy Russian shadow fleet tankers face in the Black Sea



Basically Putin should be begging for security guarantees on his entire oil industry from Zelensky.

 

[Zidane98]

Unlike Putin and his gang of far right fascists Ukraine always takes out dodgy shadow fleet tankers when they are returning empty to pick up more oil protesting the environment.

 

[Zidane98]

Another case of FAFO for Pedo Putin with Urals oil collapsing to just $38.00 USD / barrell:




That's $25 under Brent crude mostly due to price caps & sanctions.

 

[Mobbs]

Love that "volunteers" argument.

From ASTRA TG:

A resident of Ulan-Ude r*ped a 15-year-old girl. Instead of prison, he will go to war

As ASTRA found out, in December in Ulan-Ude, a 27-year-old Nuralin Yusupov was detained on suspicion of rape. The young man is suspected of raping a 15-year-old girl in the summer of 2024.

A criminal case was initiated for rape, but investigators offered Nuralin to avoid punishment by signing a contract with the Russian Armed Forces. He agreed, sources of ASTRA, familiar with the investigation, reported.

As ASTRA exclusively reported in September 2024,police and investigators have started to offer detainees to go to the "Special Military Operation", including women. Similar offers are also being made to already convicted citizens, andeven to victims.

Here are just a few of the previously confirmed and published cases by ASTRA:

On June 26, 2025, in the Voronezh region, three police officers tortured a detainee with a stun gun, forcing him to sign a contract with the Russian Ministry of Defense.

In February 2025, Krasnoyarsk security forces offered a pedophile, Vitaly Bublikov, to go to war to avoid trial.

At the same time, a resident of the Chechen village, Ruslan Umaev, who killed his daughter-in-law, instead of punishment went to war against Ukraine.

In May 2025, in Ulan-Ude, Vitaly Naletov, who was previously convicted of murder and accused of sexual violence against his 14-year-old daughter, was offered by security forces to go to war in exchange for exemption from liability. He refused.

In the winter of 2025, a policeman who killed two tourists in Sheremetyevo went to war a week before the trial.

In September 2025, ASTRA reported, how two 18-year-old boys r*ped a ninth-grader in the Kemerovo region. Three days after the rape, one of them went to war and avoided punishment.

In Krasnoyarsk, a children's karate coach committed violence against his stepdaughter for years. Instead of prison, he will also go to war.

 

[Mobbs]

Ukrainian Fight Drone Simulator on Steam:


Preview video on the page.

Denys Davydov apparently streamed himself checking it out.

 

[Zidane98]

Kremlin shitposters claim Russia does not have an issue with manpower mainting Pedo Putin's invasion of Ukraine:



Reality and numbers tell a different story.

 

[wannabejack]

From a Kyiv Post article
From the outset, lawmakers stressed that the crisis extends well beyond Moscow’s aggression. The deeper danger, they argued, is the precedent Russia is setting for every state that ever trusted security guarantees over nuclear weapons.

Ranking Member Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) delivered the sharpest warning, invoking the 1994 Budapest Memorandum – the deal that persuaded Ukraine to surrender its nuclear arsenal in exchange for protection Russia has since vaporized.

“If we allow Russia to swallow sovereign Ukrainian territory, other nations are going to draw the obvious conclusion: they need nuclear weapons to be safe,” Shaheen said. “That is a deterrence failure that we can’t afford.”

Not just other nations but more so Ukraine.
It seems that no one wants to guarentee Ukraine’s safety and even if they do who knows whether they will honour that guarentee in the furure. Even the vatniks here know that Ukraine’s future isn’t safe from russia no matter how this current war ends.

 

[Andre]

Love that "volunteers" argument.

From ASTRA TG:

A resident of Ulan-Ude r*ped a 15-year-old girl. Instead of prison, he will go to war

As ASTRA found out, in December in Ulan-Ude, a 27-year-old Nuralin Yusupov was detained on suspicion of rape. The young man is suspected of raping a 15-year-old girl in the summer of 2024.

A criminal case was initiated for rape, but investigators offered Nuralin to avoid punishment by signing a contract with the Russian Armed Forces. He agreed, sources of ASTRA, familiar with the investigation, reported.

As ASTRA exclusively reported in September 2024,police and investigators have started to offer detainees to go to the "Special Military Operation", including women. Similar offers are also being made to already convicted citizens, andeven to victims.

Here are just a few of the previously confirmed and published cases by ASTRA:

On June 26, 2025, in the Voronezh region, three police officers tortured a detainee with a stun gun, forcing him to sign a contract with the Russian Ministry of Defense.

In February 2025, Krasnoyarsk security forces offered a pedophile, Vitaly Bublikov, to go to war to avoid trial.

At the same time, a resident of the Chechen village, Ruslan Umaev, who killed his daughter-in-law, instead of punishment went to war against Ukraine.

In May 2025, in Ulan-Ude, Vitaly Naletov, who was previously convicted of murder and accused of sexual violence against his 14-year-old daughter, was offered by security forces to go to war in exchange for exemption from liability. He refused.

In the winter of 2025, a policeman who killed two tourists in Sheremetyevo went to war a week before the trial.

In September 2025, ASTRA reported, how two 18-year-old boys r*ped a ninth-grader in the Kemerovo region. Three days after the rape, one of them went to war and avoided punishment.

In Krasnoyarsk, a children's karate coach committed violence against his stepdaughter for years. Instead of prison, he will also go to war.

The cream of Russian manhood. Whilst I feel some small sympathy for 18 year olds coerced into service, I can't see any in that list that I (or many others) will shed a tear over if they die within a few days of arriving at the front.

 

[Zidane98]

Oil platform in Caspian sea taken out by Ukraine

 

[barreness]

The reason I brought up the Treaty of Friendship was because you downgraded the Budapest Memorandum to just a “memo”.

Yes, Ukraine did not renew the Treaty of Friendship in 2018 because russia broke the Treaty of Friendship when they invaded Crimea in 2014.
Ukraine terminated its Treaty of Friendship with Russia primarily because Russia's 2014 annexation of Crimea and ongoing military aggression in Donbas constituted fundamental violations of the treaty's core principles, especially respecting territorial integrity and sovereignty, making the agreement impossible to uphold.

What it shows is that no matter what russia signs, whether it be a “memo” or treaty, they will not honour it.

Well it was a memo, literally in the title

Look this is a silly argument, treaties/memos etc are just a peace of paper. International law doesn't exist, countries just pretend it does to bat away criticism*(rules based order etc etc)

Now the point of your argument is that Ukraine can never accept a peace treaty with Russia because they won't stick to it. This is considered a pro Ukraine argument; which is beyond me because it means more deaths and destruction, it's pro war.

Soviets pulled out of Korea and Austria(with neutrality that lasts to this day), Finland is still fine after ~80 years. If we are talking Russian federation then Georgia has been fine for 17 years and Chechnya for a quarter century(internal province but you get the point)

If Ukraine would sign a peace treaty and not break it/annoy Russia they would likely be fine from historical precedence. If Ukraine don't stick to it, aka Minsk accords**, you can expect the conflict to continue.

*Hague treaties prevents Ukraine/Russia declaring war because that would demand third parties remain neutral and stop shipping weapons for example. Not that this stuff really matters, just lawfare jargon rubbish, everyone does it

**Zelesnky was elected on a pro peace(constitutional reform to fulfil the Minsk accords) and anti corruption platform. Failing pretty hard on these in his 7th of a 5 year term

 

[barreness]

Again you keep forgetting that russia invaded Ukraine.
Why do you keep forgetting this?

I haven't forgotten this. I literally concede this every time you bring it up

Russia invaded Ukraine, think I've typed this at least three times for your particularly purity test

What you don't get is it doesn't matter who started it; it's how to finish it that is the big deal

Writing Putin should just go home on twitter has proven ineffectual for ~4 years, I'd suggest looking at some more options