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You really hate Malbourne, yeah?
Melbourne is legitimately one of the woke capitals of the world. An epicentre of left wing Green Party propaganda

It’s no coincidence it’s a nigh on socially bankrupt shithole

Successive labor governments have killed what was genuinely a great city
 

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I think the WTC is a good thing it just needs to be a three match series.

And not be played in England every bloody time.
 
Melbourne is legitimately one of the woke capitals of the world. An epicentre of left wing Green Party propaganda

It’s no coincidence it’s a nigh on socially bankrupt shithole

Successive labor governments have killed what was genuinely a great city
How it was explained to me (a real person, not AI)

Melbourne’s willingness since to expand city boundaries at a ridiculous rate (because that where the affordable land was) to accommodate an exploding “base income” population has seen the average standard of living stagnating whilst trying to support an exponentially growing infrastructure bill.
I mean, its population has grown by over 60% (2 million+ people!) in 25 years, with the average housing cost barely scraping 3-4% increase per year because that’s all they could afford.

Compared to Adelaide 20% population and 10% per year housing costs.
Sydney’s 35% and 7%.
Brisbane 60% and 7%
Perth 30% and 7%.
They’ve all grown as a standard of living that provides an income base that supports the population spread. Unlike Melbourne.

It legitimately is approaching the cusp of being a failed city like Detroit. Unsustainable.
 
How it was explained to me (a real person, not AI)

Melbourne’s willingness since to expand city boundaries at a ridiculous rate (because that where the affordable land was) to accommodate an exploding “base income” population has seen the average standard of living stagnating whilst trying to support an exponentially growing infrastructure bill.
I mean, its population has grown by over 60% (2 million+ people!) in 25 years, with the average housing cost barely scraping 3-4% increase per year because that’s all they could afford.

Compared to Adelaide 20% population and 10% per year housing costs.
Sydney’s 35% and 7%.
Brisbane 60% and 7%
Perth 30% and 7%.
They’ve all grown as a standard of living that provides an income base that supports the population spread. Unlike Melbourne.

It legitimately is approaching the cusp of being a failed city like Detroit. Unsustainable.
Their state governments capacity to waste public money at an exorbitant rate (ie machete bins) absolutely accelerates their status of #1 cesspool city in the country
 
Machete bins lol. ITS GOING WELL.

I tend to steer clear of cities now. The decline doesn't bother me so much that way. Every time I move house I get further out and get more land and find I miss anything city less and less. Only thing keeping me tied atleast in some reach is good private schools for the kids. I work totally remote and have done since covid, so does the missus.

I'm not a city person at all, but I understand it just isn't for me. Some love it. I have actually now geared my finances so that if I lose remote jobs, i'll just work remote contracts, or for myself or maybe even not at all. I made a decision a few years ago that i'd rather not have a job than go back to the office rat race and basically geared everything to that end.

Probably likely when the kids finish school that i'll just live in somewhere like Renmark. Won't be able to avoid the gross urban sprawl forever though i'd say. Lots of country towns are growing fast as well. Used to love Goolwa, but thats seeing big housing developments etc. now too. Actually the only reason I didn't move there relatively recently was the child care wait lists are years because of the rapid growth.

I've accepted I can't stop what is going on so i'll just go live somewhere I want to. Fully understand not everyone is that lucky, i'd probably be more upset if I couldn't just go "yeah not sure I like this" and peace out. Sure its not my idea of Utopia but i'm sure its someones, they can enjoy theirs while I enjoy mine.

Inflation can eat shit, though.
 
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How much did each bin cost?

Absolutely fantastic use of your money
It's not the money that bothers me on this one, because you know...the machete thing.
 
How it was explained to me (a real person, not AI)

Melbourne’s willingness since to expand city boundaries at a ridiculous rate (because that where the affordable land was) to accommodate an exploding “base income” population has seen the average standard of living stagnating whilst trying to support an exponentially growing infrastructure bill.
I mean, its population has grown by over 60% (2 million+ people!) in 25 years, with the average housing cost barely scraping 3-4% increase per year because that’s all they could afford.

Compared to Adelaide 20% population and 10% per year housing costs.
Sydney’s 35% and 7%.
Brisbane 60% and 7%
Perth 30% and 7%.
They’ve all grown as a standard of living that provides an income base that supports the population spread. Unlike Melbourne.

It legitimately is approaching the cusp of being a failed city like Detroit. Unsustainable.

You mean it's the one place that actually has implemented policy changes to slow the insane housing price increases, which has worked, btw, and that's somehow a negative??

Adelaide's insane housing price increase isn't a good thing for anyone, unless you're a landleech. Our wages are still dogshit.
 

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Machete bins lol. ITS GOING WELL.

I tend to steer clear of cities now. The decline doesn't bother me so much that way. Every time I move house I get further out and get more land and find I miss anything city less and less. Only thing keeping me tied atleast in some reach is good private schools for the kids. I work totally remote and have done since covid, so does the missus.

I'm not a city person at all, but I understand it just isn't for me. Some love it. I have actually now geared my finances so that if I lose remote jobs, i'll just work remote contracts, or for myself or maybe even not at all. I made a decision a few years ago that i'd rather not have a job than go back to the office rat race and basically geared everything to that end.

Probably likely when the kids finish school that i'll just live in somewhere like Renmark. Won't be able to avoid the gross urban sprawl forever though i'd say. Lots of country towns are growing fast as well. Used to love Goolwa, but thats seeing big housing developments etc. now too. Actually the only reason I didn't move there relatively recently was the child care wait lists are years because of the rapid growth.

I've accepted I can't stop what is going on so i'll just go live somewhere I want to. Fully understand not everyone is that lucky, i'd probably be more upset if I couldn't just go "yeah not sure I like this" and peace out. Sure its not my idea of Utopia but i'm sure its someones, they can enjoy theirs while I enjoy mine.

Inflation can eat shit, though.

Canberra is the perfect sized city. Don't @ me

Disagree on the country towns bit, the smaller ones are still all shrinking/disappearing. It's just becoming centralised so everything's moving to the bigger country "cities" or regional hubs.

Im surprised somewhere like Clare has basically stagnated population wise for decades. I lived there for a while. It's a nice place, climate is good, being in the valley keeps the temps down a bit in summer. Awesome wine region, enough shops and services that you don't need to run to Adelaide all the time, scenery is pretty nice. And if you do need the city it's only a couple of hours away. Oh and houses are pretty cheap.

For people that can work remote or are at retirement age its pretty nice.
 
The amount of homeless in the Adelaide CBD has never stood out to me more it's beyond grim.

Went into the CBD for the first time in yonks a week or two ago. Within 10 minutes there was some skateboard homeless looking guy trying to fight the cookers ranting about pedophiles with a megaphone in the middle of rundle mall.
 
The amount of homeless in the Adelaide CBD has never stood out to me more it's beyond grim.
Yeah its off the charts. Another thing that sticks out in suburbia is the amount of dodgy rough crack head looking middle aged men that get around on shitty mountain bikes and just seem to loiter, mainly around shopping centres and the like. Im always on my guard around these types.
 
Canberra is the perfect sized city. Don't @ me

Disagree on the country towns bit, the smaller ones are still all shrinking/disappearing. It's just becoming centralised so everything's moving to the bigger country "cities" or regional hubs.

Im surprised somewhere like Clare has basically stagnated population wise for decades. I lived there for a while. It's a nice place, climate is good, being in the valley keeps the temps down a bit in summer. Awesome wine region, enough shops and services that you don't need to run to Adelaide all the time, scenery is pretty nice. And if you do need the city it's only a couple of hours away. Oh and houses are pretty cheap.

For people that can work remote or are at retirement age its pretty nice.
I actually kinda agree. I went to Canberra for some work stuff recently and it was alright. The place is like 90% golf courses. They know the market for the politicians lol.
 

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Yeah its off the charts. Another thing that sticks out in suburbia is the amount of dodgy rough crack head looking middle aged men that get around on shitty mountain bikes and just seem to loiter, mainly around shopping centres and the like. Im always on my guard around these types.
Lol there are like, scooter gangs as well. Groups of like 10-13 year olds on scooters just getting around in the shopping centres and digging through the big bins and shoplifting.

When I worked in retail during Uni, the scooter bros were a real problem.
 
As a now old-ish ;)`Boomer' campaigner my observations of Melbourne as a young kid in the 1950's and later as an early teenager in the 1960's, when my family used to travel there every 2nd xmas to visit relatives was how much the place was full of ramshackle weatherboard buildings and dirty run down shops that made even the older parts of Adelaide look like the Taj Mahal by comparison, the absolutely filthy beaches where people buried their rubbish (which could include broken bottles) a few inches below the sand, and advertising hoardings that were so old and dilapidated they appeared to my young eyes to be a chance of falling off the buildings they were attached to.

I can still recall the now famous beer poster `I Allus has wan at 11,' which was probably 60 plus years old when I first saw it being one of those dilapidated advertising hoardings.

I was 7 or 8 years old and with my father and uncle when we were driving through one of the inner Melbourne suburbs when I witnessed two blokes having a knife fight on a street corner outside one of those aforementioned dirty run down shops, and I have a vague recollection my uncle said the place was believed to be an illegal gambling establishment.

Heady stuff indeed for a kid from a small town in country SA.
 
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