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Test The Ashes Fifth Test January 4-8 1000hrs @ The SCG

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Harry Brook is also another of the English pissheads apprantly.
England need to learn how to book a private party. Embarrassing. I think it's pretty obvious that Baz is trying to emulate the Aussie culture of "you are old enough to manage yourselves" and they are all too young to manage themselves and need oversight and coaching.
 
I wonder if we'll get any more Alex Carey types where they play AFL in their early 20's, get delisted and return to cricket.
Max Walker edit: and Simon O'Donnell
 
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The numerous self-inflicted wounds surely at the root of England being on the wrong end of a 4-1 thrashing.

Top of the list for mine was their dire catching, beautifully juxtaposed against Australia's sublime hands throughout the series.

There's probably more but I can really only recall Green's ill-advised dive in front of Smith as a genuine dropped chance by Australia.
 

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What do you mean it hasn’t yet? And what question? He’s already had the mental application to make the most of it basically as much as a 35(?) test player can with the bat.

This is why everyone in the world hates Australian fans. Yes no doubt people will always claim ‘it’s because the Australian team is so good.’

But it’s not. It’s this stupid ethos of ‘everything ever is meaningless unless it’s happened against Australia.’

People in this very thread have tried to claim Ben Stokes has never had a moment of brilliance outside of his Headingley heroics.

The guy blasted 258 off 200 balls against Kagiso Rabada and Morne Morkel at Newlands 😂😂

Harry Brook has probably played the two best innings by a visiting batsman in NZ in the last 10 years along with Cam Green’s 170 and they were on green tops. But they don’t count. He’s played some big innings on flat tracks in Pakistan and rightly people have gone ‘well that’s a bit easy.’ Fair play.
But then they’ve ignored when he’s smashed a couple of tons there in matches where it hasn’t been so easy and he’s stood head and shoulders above everyone else, and England won them, completed a 3-0 sweep on his back.

He was also the most influential batsman across the two tests England won last Ashes (85 out of 283 on day one at The Oval, 75 to anchor the chase of 254 at Headingley).

He undoubtedly has some brain melts - that’s impossible to deny. He had one in his last big innings, the century he made against India which should have been a crowning moment for him when he threw it away with 50 to get and his side lost.

But those moments don’t erase the good things he’s done either.

If this is as bad as it gets for him, he doesn’t have a lot to worry about

Imo it's been a mixed bag.

Yes, only 35 games in, but I can only form my opinion on what I've seen in that time.

I've acknowledged his prowess with eye and hand. I just remain uncertain about his mental application.

I wouldn't have thought that was overly controversial, but yeah, something on which there'll be different pov's.

If that makes me an ugly Australian then I'm comfortable with it.
 
Birmingham 2025 and Wellington 2023.

ed: beaten by grumbleguts I need more practice on Statsguru haha
TBF I was the one who posted the stat, so already knew the two games. Because I remember when they happened and thought it was a dumb tactic and caused the loss. (I had an argument with a guy that Baz's fastest hundred in history caused the loss in that test match because New Zealand were in Genuine trouble and he faced 79 balls. The runs didn't matter at that point, they needed to chew up time and rebuild.) That argument led me to follow his idiotic tendency to throw batting time away. So when two 150+ scores led to a loss I was interested then it happened again. And now the third time.

So it was pretty quick of you to find them as quickly as you did.
 
TBF I was the one who posted the stat, so already knew the two games. Because I remember when they happened and thought it was a dumb tactic and caused the loss. (I had an argument with a guy that Baz's fastest hundred in history caused the loss in that test match because New Zealand were in Genuine trouble and he faced 79 balls. The runs didn't matter at that point, they needed to chew up time and rebuild.) That argument led me to follow his idiotic tendency to throw batting time away. So when two 150+ scores led to a loss I was interested then it happened again. And now the third time.

So it was pretty quick of you to find them as quickly as you did.
It was a fun little query!

 

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I missed the post match ceremony (appointment)

Did Stokes give any credit to Australia ?

Or was it like 2023 where he never mentioned the opposition or Pat Cummins. And the whole post series interview was just a massive sook ?
 
From what I saw, every player who didnt play that test (including Cummins) wore the pink hat instead. Seems pretty reasonable.
Fair call. Lyon, cumo, murphy and smith.


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Surely someone from the English cricket team, maybe the coach, captain, whoever, rang Stuart Broad after he said ‘worst Aus team in 15 years’ and said “Broady, would you shut the f**k up. Why on earth would you give the Aussies any type of bulletin board material”.

Every cricket player interviewed after we won the series has mentioned it. So even if Broady thought it, why the f**k would you say it. Professional sportsman love this sort of stuff as a way to motivate. It may even be true, (although I remember a team with the Marsh bros, Paine keeping and Bird opening the bowling in a previous ashes) you never f**king say it.
Despite the win and their brain deadness I don’t think this English sides any better than any of the other English sides that lost 4-0
 
You don’t believe in friction and lubricant?
Sure I do. I also know it needs frequent reapplication in non-sealed environments, particularly if often eroded. Say with a ball hitting it. Or a bat tapping a pitch. I can see the theory, I just doubt the real world practicality. Strongly doubt actually.
 

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