Opinion AUSTRALIAN Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 6

[Kane McGoodwin]

Hastie is from the religious right - he isn’t the panacea they think he is. He will give them a short term bounce but policy wise he is a light weight.

Then we have Angus Taylor - OMG!

One of them will be their next leader.

Prefer the one who has some integrity... even if I don't agree with many of his ideals.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

 

[WaynesWorld19]

IMO this is one of the most sensible responses to this catchphrase "listen to the science" .....instead of predictions being sprouted as black & white

IF they can't get weather forecasting right, and it's the worse it's ever been in my time ....given, the lack of funding to get an appropriate numerical data to improve predictions .....so then the amount of data required to measure a much more complex scenario of weather is nigh on impossible ...as we found out with the infamous Ozone Layer Depletion, and melting of the Arctic circle



And amongst many, the doom & gloom predictions .....2009, I'm still waiting ...in fact Ice levels have risen

 

[kirky]

IMO this is one of the most sensible responses to this catchphrase "listen to the science" .....instead of predictions being sprouted as black & white

IF they can't get weather forecasting right, and it's the worse it's ever been in my time ....given, the lack of funding to get an appropriate numerical data to improve predictions .....so then the amount of data required to measure a much more complex scenario of weather is nigh on impossible ...as we found out with the infamous Ozone Layer Depletion, and melting of the Arctic circle



And amongst many, the doom & gloom predictions .....2009, I'm still waiting ...in fact Ice levels have risen

Can you provide a link that Artic ice is increasing?

Climate Change: Arctic sea ice summer minimum

The amount of sea ice that survives the Arctic summer has declined by 13 percent per decade since the start of the 43-year satellite record.

www.climate.gov

This suggests over time it is decreasing not increasing.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Can you provide a link that Artic ice is increasing?

Climate Change: Arctic sea ice summer minimum

The amount of sea ice that survives the Arctic summer has declined by 13 percent per decade since the start of the 43-year satellite record.

www.climate.gov

This suggests over time it is decreasing.

Decreasing in some areas, increasing in other areas ....the news was always selective use of data

I read so much over long periods of time ....I don't keep a library at hand ....but it's not hard to research yourself

 

[kirky]

Decreasing in some areas, increasing in other areas ....the news was always selective use of data

I read so much over long periods of time ....I don't keep a library at hand ....but it's not hard to research yourself

You may have read but whether you understand is a separate issue.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Again, renewables are so simple to run .....I've said, it's like any business venture ....show the money, and people rush in

It was the same with Childcare centres ( yes, I was involved in many as a consultant) .....money for jam, a waiting list to get locations, no-one sold their childcare ......was it money or childrens welfare, I think we know the answer

Anyway back to the subject at hand:








Electroverse

@Electroversenet

The UK bet its energy future on offshore wind. Massive projects like Hornsey and Dogger Bank were sold as the backbone of net zero.

Billions were spent in subsidies, but the industry has just hit a wall.In the latest government auction, there wasn't a single developer bid. Turbine and maintenance costs went up, but subsidies didn't.

Developers ran the numbers.The projects were unprofitable. Major offshore plans were cancelled or delayed, with companies like Orsted writing off billions in losses.

Britain's cheap wind promise collapsed the moment it met real-world economics. Offshore wind is an expensive disaster.

 

[cleanhands]

You may have read but whether you understand is a separate issue.

Does BF count

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

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Clearly you have not read the legislation as the Bondi father wouldn't have been able to get a legal weapon...

But we know facts are not important to you...

Also, won't we have less DV victims if there are less guns... as many deaths are by legally owned guns.

 

[Soggy2112]

Clearly you have not read the legislation as the Bondi father wouldn't have been able to get a legal weapon...

But we know facts are not important to you...

Also, won't we have less DV victims if there are less guns... as many deaths are by legally owned guns.

Didn’t you see the cartoon. That is obviously exactly what happens. No need to provide any actual evidence for this claim.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

A non-political appointment...

Defence Secretary Greg Moriarty replaces Kevin Rudd as Australia's US ambassador

Moriarty will replace Kevin Rudd as Australia's next ambassador to the United States of America.

www.9news.com.au

 

[Vader]

A non-political appointment...

Defence Secretary Greg Moriarty replaces Kevin Rudd as Australia's US ambassador

Moriarty will replace Kevin Rudd as Australia's next ambassador to the United States of America.

www.9news.com.au

Almost the first by either side in the last 10 years.

 

[Mutineer]

No doubt about it renewables are having an amazing impact on power bills. Only a mere $6.8 Billion of taxpayers money handed out in Bowen's fantasy.

Why electricity bills could jump 24pc this year

Westpac economist Justin Smirk said that lower-income households would feel the most pain from higher electricity bills.

www.afr.com

Electricity bills could jump 24pc this year

Power bills could rise more than 20 per cent this year following the expiry of government energy subsidies, which will result in electricity costs snapping back to levels higher than before the relief.

State and federal governments in 2023 introduced rebates for electricity bills to alleviate cost-of-living pressures after annual headline inflation peaked at 7.8 per cent in December 2022. Since then, the federal government has provided $6.8 billion in relief.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

No doubt about it renewables are having an amazing impact on power bills. Only a mere $6.8 Billion of taxpayers money handed out in Bowen's fantasy.

Why electricity bills could jump 24pc this year

Westpac economist Justin Smirk said that lower-income households would feel the most pain from higher electricity bills.

www.afr.com

Electricity bills could jump 24pc this year

Power bills could rise more than 20 per cent this year following the expiry of government energy subsidies, which will result in electricity costs snapping back to levels higher than before the relief.

State and federal governments in 2023 introduced rebates for electricity bills to alleviate cost-of-living pressures after annual headline inflation peaked at 7.8 per cent in December 2022. Since then, the federal government has provided $6.8 billion in relief.

As opposed to a recurrent $15B to fund the fossil fuel industry which you have never complained about.

Just as well they are paying no or little taxes & taking all their profits overseas...so they can profit from the Australian taxpayer, using Australian resources.

Fossil fuel subsidies in Australia 2025

In 2024–25, Australian governments provided $14.9 billion worth of spending and tax breaks to assist fossil fuel producers and major users, a 3% increase

australiainstitute.org.au

 

[Mutineer]

China tells a different story to the that of the fanbois that keep pointing to China 'green' revolution.

China’s green-energy revolution is losing $60 billion a year. Why are investors still throwing money at it?

China is praised for being a global alternative-enegy innovator. But its coal mining industry holds the real power.

www.marketwatch.com

China’s green-energy revolution is losing $60 billion a year. Why are investors still throwing money at it?

China is praised for being a global alternative-enegy innovator. But its coal mining industry holds the real power.

China’s vice premier, He Lifeng, took the stage at Davos this week to position Beijing as the world’s reliable partner on global trade and renewable energy. The World Economic Forum obliged, declaring this year “a high-stakes execution test” after celebrating China in a December 2025 report for “cementing its status as the world’s clean-energy powerhouse.”
The financial newsletter
Doomberg recently published a devastating
analysis of China’s energy reality versus its media portrayal.
The core finding: China burns 56% of the world’s coal, has tripled consumption since 2000 and is building coal plants at the fastest pace in a decade. Yet the Davos crowd continues to celebrate Beijing’s “climate leadership” with the enthusiasm of a golden retriever greeting a burglar.

The solar industry is bleeding out

China installed a record-setting 277 gigawatts of solar capacity in 2024. Headlines everywhere. The energy transition is here, they told us, and China is leading it.

What nobody mentioned: China’s solar industry lost $60 billion that same year.

This is not a typo. Sixty billion dollars. China’s solar industry’s total losses exceeded the GDP of Luxembourg. More than 40 solar manufacturers have gone bankrupt or delisted since 2024. One-third of China’s 121 listed solar producers are operating in the red. The top four manufacturers — the giants that were supposed to dominate the 21st century — collectively lost $1.5 billion in the first half of 2025 alone. The previous year was worse. This year looks worse still.

The industry has responded by laying off 87,000 workers from five major companies, according to a Reuters analysis of company filings. In a country where employment is considered essential to social stability, these layoffs are politically sensitive enough that most companies won’t even acknowledge them publicly.

 

[kirky]

No doubt about it renewables are having an amazing impact on power bills. Only a mere $6.8 Billion of taxpayers money handed out in Bowen's fantasy.

Why electricity bills could jump 24pc this year

Westpac economist Justin Smirk said that lower-income households would feel the most pain from higher electricity bills.

www.afr.com

Electricity bills could jump 24pc this year

Power bills could rise more than 20 per cent this year following the expiry of government energy subsidies, which will result in electricity costs snapping back to levels higher than before the relief.

State and federal governments in 2023 introduced rebates for electricity bills to alleviate cost-of-living pressures after annual headline inflation peaked at 7.8 per cent in December 2022. Since then, the federal government has provided $6.8 billion in relief.

So it provided subsidies of say $2.6b each year for the past 3 years. Wow! Just wow!

How much does the government lose in tax concessions for superannuation each year? How much does negative gearing cost the economy in tax concessions each year?

Take a hike.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

A reward for being useless. When we talked about bad PM last week, Marshall would be in the category of bad Premiers in this state.

South Australian Honours.​

Former South Australian Premier Steven Marshall has been made a Member of the Order of Australia.

With his victory in the 2018 election, Mr Marshall brought the Liberals back to power after 16 years in opposition.

His time as premier was marked by the COVID-19 pandemic, during which the public became accustomed to his almost daily press conferences

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

A reward for being useless. When we talked about bad PM last week, Marshall would be in the category of bad Premiers in this state.

South Australian Honours.​

Former South Australian Premier Steven Marshall has been made a Member of the Order of Australia.

With his victory in the 2018 election, Mr Marshall brought the Liberals back to power after 16 years in opposition.

His time as premier was marked by the COVID-19 pandemic, during which the public became accustomed to his almost daily press conferences

Marshall is the only successful liberal state leader in recent history, so you are being harsh. Compare to before & after.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

All enjoy a happy Australia Day.

 

[Eagleboy2011]

 

[kirky]

Did he do the Marree Man?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Congratulations to the winners, including local as Australian of the year.

All the best for Daniher.

https://www.news.com.au/entertainment/awards/2026-australian-of-the-year-awards-held-in-canberra-as-winners-announced/news-story/7f0f71914df9c790fa67353e9bf4b001

 

[adelaidecrows]

Hastie is from the religious right - he isn’t the panacea they think he is. He will give them a short term bounce but policy wise he is a light weight.

Then we have Angus Taylor - OMG!

honestly it may seem right to replace Leys now but she is a stop gap opposition leader. Its still two years before the next election. If they jump to the leadership now, there will be no chance they will rise to the Prime Ministership. Opposition leaders rarely last long.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

honestly it may seem right to replace Leys now but she is a stop gap opposition leader. Its still two years before the next election. If they jump to the leadership now, there will be no chance they will rise to the Prime Ministership. Opposition leaders rarely last long.

Problem is the Coalition need to get back together to build an effective opposition & Nationals refuse to deal with Leys, so are forcing a change.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

So it provided subsidies of say $2.6b each year for the past 3 years. Wow! Just wow!

How much does the government lose in tax concessions for superannuation each year? How much does negative gearing cost the economy in tax concessions each year?

Take a hike.

Stop the strawman argument ...and offer a direct rebuttal of the argument raised

Here, just to give you a helping hand ......to get renewable projects, or for that matter, any new technology projects .....it's always been accepted, Govt's would need to subsidise startups .....standard practice

The more important question is, when can renewable projects become financially self sustaining ?