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Current WAR CRIMES Israel Hamas Conflict Pt 2 - ICC issues warrants for Israel's Benjamin Netanyahu & Yoav Gallant * Warrant for Deif is cancelled

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The ICC has also issued warrants for Netanyahu and Gallant. The warrant for Deif was cancelled on confirmation of his death.

For Netanyahu and Gallant, who was replaced as defence minister earlier this month, the chamber “found reasonable grounds to believe” that they “each bear criminal responsibility for the following crimes as co-perpetrators for committing the acts jointly with others: the war crime of starvation as a method of warfare; and the crimes against humanity of murder, persecution, and other inhumane acts”.

It also found reasonable grounds to believe that “each bear criminal responsibility as civilian superiors for the war crime of intentionally directing an attack against the civilian population”.


According to the ICC, the chamber “found reasonable grounds to believe” that Deif was “responsible for the crimes against humanity of murder; extermination; torture; and rape and other form of sexual violence; as well as the war crimes of murder, cruel treatment, torture; taking hostages; outrages upon personal dignity; and rape and other form of sexual violence”.

It also said there were reasonable grounds to believe the crimes against humanity were “part of a widespread and systematic attack directed by Hamas and other armed groups against the civilian population of Israel”. CANCELLED POST-DEATH.

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Reporting on the situation in Gaza has declined, but this is still ongoing:


Amid Israel’s deliberate imposition of conditions of life calculated to bring about the physical destruction of Palestinians in Gaza, Palestinian women face compounded and life-threatening consequences that have materialized through ongoing mass displacement, the collapse of reproductive, maternal and newborn healthcare; interruption of treatment for chronic illness, including cancer; heightened exposure to disease and unsafe and undignified living conditions; as well as profound physical and mental harm.

These harms are exacerbated by Israel’s ongoing restrictions on the entry into Gaza of items indispensable to the survival of the civilian population including adequate food, medicines, medical equipment and assistive devices, shelter material and equipment necessary for the purification of water and removal of rubble, unexploded ordnance and waste. Israel continues to impose these restrictions amid life-threatening delays on medical evacuations and the suspension of registration of international humanitarian organizations that provide essential services for women and girls.
 
Colour me shocked!
Twitter awash with "they investigated and found nothing wrong!"

Because video of a bunch of soldiers gathering around a prisoner, raising riot shields to block camera view of another soldier (or so they thought) while he buggered said prisoner with a knife, is such flimsy evidence.

Then they go all Kyle Rittenhouse and put the rapist on TV.
 

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Twitter awash with "they investigated and found nothing wrong!"

Because video of a bunch of soldiers gathering around a prisoner, raising riot shields to block camera view of another soldier (or so they thought) while he buggered said prisoner with a knife, is such flimsy evidence.

Then they go all Kyle Rittenhouse and put the rapist on TV.
Yep they literally made him a celebrity.

Absolutely sickening.
 
As expected, no comment from Zidane98 Jazny and ZEV

I guess it's a bit hard to defend them always letting their criminals off with no punishment.
We've seen your side openly defend, excuse, and deny rape atrocities. Those who didn't participate directly in that were silent while it happened. But those same people who were silent have a meltdown if you don't immediately or sufficiently comment on a video of the IDF standing around in a garden.

If I acted like you apologists I would be trying to deny any sexual assault happened in the facility, or if it did happen try and morally excuse it. Or if someone was in here defending these disgusting thugs I would provide zero pushback.

Don't tag me again in this thread, I'm not interested in your twitter-brained takes.
 
If I acted like you apologists I would be trying to deny any sexual assault happened in the facility, or if it did happen try and morally excuse it. Or if someone was in here defending these disgusting thugs I would provide zero pushback.
Please link to any post where anyone said this.
 
We've seen your side openly defend, excuse, and deny rape atrocities.

Nope.

If I acted like you apologists I would be trying to deny any sexual assault happened in the facility, or if it did happen try and morally excuse it. Or if someone was in here defending these disgusting thugs I would provide zero pushback.

Don't tag me again in this thread, I'm not interested in your twitter-brained takes.

Still no condemnation of Israel letting off the rapists and torturers with no punishment.
 
Please link to any post where anyone said this.
Why don't you ask your moderator Kurve also, Chief? She has repeatedly pushed back on rape denial in this thread. I'm not spending my sunday going through the all the rape denial posts that have obviously been happening for the last two years with zero pushback from any of the regulars on the other side.

If you're interested, search "rape" and any of the threads including this one and its predecessors and go through them yourself.
 
Why don't you ask your moderator Kurve also, Chief? She has repeatedly pushed back on rape denial in this thread.

I've usually seen:
  • that claims of "organised" or "widespread" sexual assault has been rejected.
  • Mentions that the victims haven't been heard from - I can't recall and so I don't know if this is true.

I'm not spending my sunday going through the all the rape denial posts that have obviously been happening for the last two years with zero pushback from any of the regulars on the other side.

Can you find at least one?

If you're interested, search "rape" and any of the threads including this one and its predecessors and go through them yourself.
Well, I'm more interested in your claim of "rape denial". Surely you can find one that outright denies any rape happened?

I've seen mainly rejections of some claims that it was widespread or organised or anything like that.

I have no doubt it would have happened at some point, but I can't see solid backup of any claims of "mass rape" or anything.
 
Well, I'm more interested in your claim of "rape denial". Surely you can find one that outright denies any rape happened?
Ha, love the attempted qualification, but that's not true.



Were they? I don't believe you. Prove it.



There are no videos of sexual violence on Oct 7. Are you lying again?




You're just going to go on assuming this magical evidence exists in perpetuity, being held for a trial that will never occur?

Where did they get it from? Israel certainly doesn't have it, their own investigative taskforce confirmed there isn't any.

Not that Israel cooperated in any way with the investigation.

Sorry, don't buy it.
Okay, don't then but this isn't the right board to continue disputing the claims and triggering people with rape denial. If you want to keep arguing about it, I'm asking you to take it to another board.
It's not just my claim, Chief.
 

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It's not just my claim, Chief.
a) They were talking about EVIDENCE. Not whether it happened or not.

b) and got blocked anyway.

Try again.
 
a) They were talking about EVIDENCE. Not whether it happened or not.

b) and got blocked anyway.

Try again.
Here he is denying there is credible evidence:
I'm still waiting to see this credible account, or any evidence whatsoever, or even a single victim.
Here he is making light of rape could have occurred on October 7th because he thinks its absurd they could "run around with their pants down during a military operation" then commenting on them "going ham" with the hostages.
Find this really gross. Using this assumption every hostage held for the last 15 months must also have been victim, over and over again. If they could run around with their pants down during a military operation, they must have really gone ham with hostages at their every whim. Is that your opinion also?
Here is more denial that Kurve is also responding to calling denial:
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You can go through the other threads where he tries to call the suspected rape of the woman in black reported by the New York times "ridiculously implausible" because he thinks Hamas couldn't rape he in a five minute window...

What would you say to someone who said that about the Sde Temain prison, rape, Chief? Be honest.
 
Here he is making light of rape could have occurred on October 7th because he thinks its absurd they could "run around with their pants down during a military operation" then commenting on them "going ham" with the hostages.
And they have been blocked from the board.
 
Here he is denying there is credible evidence:

Here he is making light of rape could have occurred on October 7th because he thinks its absurd they could "run around with their pants down during a military operation" then commenting on them "going ham" with the hostages.

Here is more denial that Kurve is also responding to calling denial:
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You can go through the other threads where he tries to call the suspected rape of the woman in black reported by the New York times "ridiculously implausible" because he thinks Hamas couldn't rape he in a five minute window...

What would you say to someone who said that about the Sde Temain prison, rape, Chief? Be honest.

That's actually quite sickening & disturbing.


The attempts here at defending Hamas blindly is concerning.
 
That's actually quite sickening & disturbing.


The attempts here at defending Hamas blindly is concerning.

So far no rejections of claims that sexual assault occurred.

Just rejections of the "mass rape" claims.

Conflating the two is what causes conflict when discussing the issue.
 
Here he is making light of rape could have occurred on October 7th
I won't go back through them, but they are parodying other claims and discussing the evidence.

They did it badly and without respect, and got kicked off the thread.

So far, no posters seem to have said nothing at all happened. Which is what I would call "rape denial" in this context.

You are looking at skepticism of some claims, and requests for evidence, as "rape denial". That poster was removed for being an insensitive shit about it.
 

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Yes, Hamas even kidnapped infants. And executed them - simply for being Jews.

There is heavy public support for this genocide. Mid-2025, I'll grant.
 
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I won't go back through them, but they are parodying other claims and discussing the evidence.

They did it badly and without respect, and got kicked off the thread.

So far, no posters seem to have said nothing at all happened. Which is what I would call "rape denial" in this context.

You are looking at skepticism of some claims, and requests for evidence, as "rape denial". That poster was removed for being an insensitive shit about it.
Okay, Chief... Is that how any other form of denialism works? Holocaust deniers must say that ZERO Jews were killed by Nazis? Climate change deniers must say the climate isn't changing at all?

Holocaust deniers are notorious for making arguments like "I am not saying no Jews were killed, but 6 million? No, they couldn't kill six million in that time frame (or insert denialist talking point here)".

Lunchlady has repeatedly made embarrassingly stupid attacks on specific allegations of rape, not just arguing that it wasn't widespread. For example, the woman in the black dress as reported by NYT. He has repeatedly claimed that this is not a credible case because he doesn't believe she could have been r*ped in the 9 minute window. Again, if someone said the same thing about Sde Temain, how would you react? Would you care if someone referred to that post as an example of pro-Israeli rape denial? Considering your standard of evidence for saying someone supports a genocide, I would guess not.

The other thing that people should be careful of is that in NO case of a mass killing accompanied by rapes that I am aware of, has there been the kind of evidence that people like Lunchlady or other deniers would accept. Nanking, Lebanese civil war, My Lai, the evidence is all mostly from testimony. Collecting strict forensic evidence is never the priority in these cases. The best evidence we have for the rapes that occurred in those events are witness testimony and circumstantial evidence. Yet to deny that rape occurred, was widespread and try and debunk specific accounts of rape in any of these cases using terrible arguments would be correctly seen as denialism.
 
So far no rejections of claims that sexual assault occurred.

Just rejections of the "mass rape" claims.

Conflating the two is what causes conflict when discussing the issue.

Nobody said anything about rejections of sexual assault outright. It would take some mental gymnastics for the most ardent Hamas supporter to claim that no sexual assault occurred on Oct 7. It is very easy to find photographic evidence of such without looking too hard.


Not to mention crowds chanting & baying at Hamas carrying a female victim on the back of a truck back in Gaza from Israel.


It's the attempt at portraying what Hamas done on Oct 7 as just a few rebel soldiers committing sexual assault on their own accord.

ICC statement:


Under Hamas leadership war crimes of note:

Rape and other acts of sexual violence as crimes against humanity, contrary to article 7(1)(g), and also as war crimes pursuant to article 8(2)(e)(vi) in the context of captivity;

And also

Extermination as a crime against humanity, contrary to article 7(1)(b) of the Rome Statute;




This was raised at UN also


Downplaying these is just victim blaming and support of Hamas. It's sickening, I am sure you must agree and I am sure you will ensure that it is stamped out.
 
Nobody said anything about rejections of sexual assault outright.
This is my interpretation of Jazny's "rape denial" accusation.

I can't see anybody in here denying SA/rape occurred at all. I can't recall whether there was any evidence of a policy of rape on the Hamas leadership side - but I haven't been reading as much lately.
 
This is my interpretation of Jazny's "rape denial" accusation.

I can't see anybody in here denying SA/rape occurred at all
Why are you repeating this? Complete denial was never the concern, this was addressed in the post you quoted. Even Jazny specifically said this to you in one of his/her replies.


That you keep going back to complete denial is somewhat bizarre.
. I can't recall whether there was any evidence of a policy of rape on the Hamas leadership side - but I haven't been reading as much lately.
Come on now. Read the ICC reports. UN reports.
 

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