Surprised so many have ZZ coming out for Gardiner, I would have thought he would play at least until Harris is back. Looks ready
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He is an emergency option at his best. Just a touch off the level. I can't think that he could ever be a match winner but he can be serviceable. I think if he worked on his defensive efforts he'd warrant more games. If he was on Blakey i rest my case. He will make way next game with the return of Bailey and Mcluggage.I thought Tunstill showed a bit last night once he got used to the pace of the game. He was ok on the wing and even seemed to be playing a forward defensive role on Blakey at times. I think he should get another shot next week.
I’d really like to see Zane get some genuine continuity next to Andrews for the rest of the year, or at least until Payne is fully ready to return. The development of Zakostelsky paired with Andrews could make a significant difference, and giving him an uninterrupted run might be exactly what our backline needs with an eye for the future.Surprised so many have ZZ coming out for Gardiner, I would have thought he would play at least until Harris is back. Looks ready
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Surprised so many have ZZ coming out for Gardiner, I would have thought he would play at least until Harris is back. Looks ready
OkayI think we must have been watching a different game
Not completely against that idea as it fits into our last 3 GF selections of 2 talls and LesterSurprised so many have ZZ coming out for Gardiner, I would have thought he would play at least until Harris is back. Looks ready
Tunstill wasn't noticeably forward or on Blakey until the second half based off what I noticed at the game (pluses and minuses on visibility there).He is an emergency option at his best. Just a touch off the level. I can't think that he could ever be a match winner but he can be serviceable. I think if he worked on his defensive efforts he'd warrant more games. If he was on Blakey i rest my case. He will make way next game with the return of Bailey and Mcluggage.
We have seen this script before. We will bounce back.
Two weeks to train and get ready for the season proper to begin.
Yep; Dev Robertson showed way more. NFI how Tunstill was kept over Dev. Either way, with a full compliment to choose from, Tunstill doesn’t get close. In all honesty, would’ve liked to have seen Torrent tried at this level, we know what Tunstill offers and it isn’t much despite his obvious effort.
Worst yet, is the fact that since his debut in 22, he’s played 13 games and we’ve only won 5 times when he’s played for a 38% winning record when he’s in.
Yep; Dev Robertson showed way more. NFI how Tunstill was kept over Dev. Either way, with a full compliment to choose from, Tunstill doesn’t get close. In all honesty, would’ve liked to have seen Torrent tried at this level, we know what Tunstill offers and it isn’t much despite his obvious effort.
Worst yet, is the fact that since his debut in 22, he’s played 13 games and we’ve only won 5 times when he’s played for a 38% winning record when he’s in.
Hmmm given where he lines up he usually replaces one of our top line mids. So the stat is basically "how many games do we win missing an elite mid?" A lot less interesting when you bear that in mind.I hate those kind of selective stats.
Sounds an awful lot like scapegoating
Gardiner coming back in which allows he or Lester to play more hybrid defender type roles…I think Fletcher is the only one who could play the Starce roll in our current backline but I think he’s too valuable to be a pure lockdown. So I can see Gardiner being the new Starc which he has done in the past with ZZ and Lester our talls until Harris is back. Can’t see the value of playing Joyce unless there’s another unavailability.Not completely against that idea as it fits into our last 3 GF selections of 2 talls and Lester
ZZ being just the 3rd defense tall will take a lot of pressure off a new player who's only AFL game was ruck relief.
ZZ jumped from 44% TOG to 90% the equal 2nd highest player on the field behind McCartin 95% & Lester 94%.
No wonder he slowed down and found himself out of position in the 2nd half.
The Saints tall selection will be either ZZ or Joyce. Joyce probably a better pick if you want to win but
One looks like he could be part of our future the other is a fill gap choice which is fine
Andrews and Lester played in all the 3 GF.
Payne played in 2024 but injured for the other 2.
Gardiner played in 2 but injured in 2024 when Payne played
The other defense issue
Starch played in all 3 GF and now missing. Answerth and Starch played in 2024 with Answerth not available in 2025
The Starch replacement is the spot that is still up for grabs in my opinion. But that's hard to fill with like for like
I don't see Answerth as a Starch replacement. They both played together in 2024.
Kiddy is not like for like but Fagan will keep playing him somewhere.
Kiddy would have to change his mind set to replicate that Starch role. Or Fagan has to insist on a more defensive game.
Same would apply to Wilmott & Fletcher or the club has to find a newer structure.
Maybe Bruce is a better fit for the Starch role freeing Kiddy up with Fletcher moving to wing which he played in the 2024 GF
I don't think opposition strolling out of their defence is a major worry (yet), we were a goal away from beating a red hot Bulldogs side and the game v the Swans I'm happy to give the team a mulligan.- Opposition transition from defence. They are just waltzing it out. Is there something structural? have teams changed what they are doing? needs to be a major focus
- The game feels quicker. Need to bite the bullet and play one genuine ruck, however that is to happen.
If i had no job i would love to watch the behind the goals vision from last year and this year. Just seems like something has changed from turnover and kick-in.I don't think opposition strolling out of their defence is a major worry (yet), we were a goal away from beating a red hot Bulldogs side and the game v the Swans I'm happy to give the team a mulligan.
100% on the game feeling quicker, have not checked the stats but are the games higher scoring as well? IMO the game being played quicker will suit us if we are at or near full strength and in our best form, we are elite at going quick on turnover.
We can not afford to be 0-4, top 4 almost certainly gone if that is how it unfolds(we were 3rd H&A in 2025 with 6 losses), Saints and Pies coming up are early season "must wins".
I'd put the look of the Bulldogs game down to them having a 5 week longer off season and hence a better endurance base, we looked absolutely shot physically a few times, we did so well to almost snatch the game in the end.If i had no job i would love to watch the behind the goals vision from last year and this year. Just seems like something has changed from turnover and kick-in.
I felt like the dogs game for the second half it was more individual brilliance from us that got our goals, and the dogs ones were systematic. the 26 point lead happened in the blink of the eye and then we were outplayed by 40 minutes. Now yes that could easily be fitness, at least in part. But we were still sliced open pretty easily.
We seem to be strugging to stop teams getting a run-on as well.
Given our turnovers would love to be playing more at the mcg, honestly seems to suit us these days.
I am hoping the Pies game is easier this year - we have a 5 day break vs 6 day break, same as last year. BUT last year we had played 5 in a row and played in very steamy conditions. THIS year we will have had bye then one game against the saints. And a few blokes have had 2 weeks off!
Fair enough. Let's hope so.I'd put the look of the Bulldogs game down to them having a 5 week longer off season and hence a better endurance base, we looked absolutely shot physically a few times, we did so well to almost snatch the game in the end.
To me is wasn't an individual moment, and Kiddy cracks in pretty hard. it is more the structure of the backline and how much space players get.I didnt see an issue with Kiddy and Zorko defensively on the weekend but I do think Fletcher should go back to the wing with Noz playing.