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You know what I'll stay in this, the systems too good.

I'll rebuild Richmond from their misery of going 0 wins 15 losses this year & their coach walking out, like, even before the season started?

Should be fun :d
 
Ill take Hawthorn even tho i barrack 4 the power.

ill need some1 to tell me the rules tho, i kinda forgot them.
It seems pretty complicated to me
 

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If you post this on the Footy Games board you'll get numbers very quickly I'd say.
 
BW said:
If you post this on the Footy Games board you'll get numbers very quickly I'd say.
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Thats what I said and 'cause we are close to trade week it will increase interest. :thumbsu:
 
ill need to know what Hawthorns team list is cos i no this has been going since 2003 so there woulda been lots of trades done.
 
The Chirpin Bird said:
ill need to know what Hawthorns team list is cos i no this has been going since 2003 so there woulda been lots of trades done.
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This has the lists, the first two posts of this have the rules (one of these days I'll write them up properly)

Essendon, Melbourne, Kangaroos to go - last time I checked I wasn't the only one who could post on the footy games board (actually, don't think I've ever been in there)
 
I made this suggestion last year, and I'm suggesting that a system similar to it it be used for this year for trading and signing out of contract players. It's worked very well in other games of this nature that I have played and is a great deal of fun. It does require some strategic thinking though.

The explanation below is quite detailed, but hopefully explains the system clearly.

Bidding and trading could be held concurrently. Both contracted and out of contract players can be traded. Clubs may decide to come to a trade deal, rather than disadvantaging themselves by forcing the price of a player up. Once traded, that player cannot be the subject of any more bids by other clubs until their contract expires, although they could be on-traded for no less than what they are currently on. This is to encourage clubs to seek a mutually beneficial trade. Only after the trade is announced and confirmed is the out of contract player considered “safe” from further bids during the bidding-trading period.

The bidding for out of contract players would work something like this

For example:

James Bartel from Geelong is out of contract and Carlton is interested in picking him up. His existing, but expired contract salary is $395,000 and Geelong have offered him another two year contract extension at that price. However other clubs are circling.... either convinced he's underpriced, or more commonly are keen to secure his services for themselves.

1) Carlton offer $395,000 + $30,000 (a minimum overbid) for Bartel bringing his salary to $425,000.
2) The Geelong coach, as the original club matches Carlton’s bid with an offer of $425,000 for two years.
3) Carlton then think...hmm well I've still got a little bit under my salary cap. I'll offer Bartel $455,000. ($425,000 + $30,000)
4) Geelong offers a three year contract instead of two at $425,000. Bartel now has a salary of $425,000 + 10% = $467,500 (rounded up to $468,000), which is larger than $455,000 that the two year contract was worth. Bartel naturally accepts.
5) Carlton withdraw from the bidding, due to other club's offers for their out of contract other players that they want to counterbid.
6) Another club, Essendon now offers $498,000 and three years for Bartel. ($468,000 + $30,000.)
7) Geelong again counters it by matching the offer. Bartel now has a salary of $498,000, which will be paid yearly for the next three years.
There are no further offers. 24 hours after Geelong's counter-bid is made Bartel signs on the dotted line for his current club Geelong for three years at $498,000 per year.

IF it were run in conjunction with trading, it could work as follows
For example:

1) Carlton offer $395,000 + $30,000 for Bartel bringing his salary to $425,000.
2) Geelong counter it with $425,000 within the required 48 hours. Once this counterbid is made it is permanent.
3) Carlton then think...hmm well I've still got a little bit under my salary cap. I'll offer Bartel $455,000.
4) Geelong, for whatever rason (lots of other expensive players, or have players they are bidding on from other clubs) now decide this is getting a little expensive with Bartel now having a salary of $455,000. They decide to negotiate Bartel as a possible trade to Carlton, rather than possibly lose him for nothing. Carlton are also happy to negotiate rather than forcing the price even higher, which means they have less movement to counter-bid offers on their un-contracted players. It also means that if Carlton has paid too much for Bartel, Geelong has a considerable amount of freed up space under the salary cap to use on bidding on Carlton’s required un-contracted players.

5) After considerable negotiation, where Geelong threatens to make a counter-bid taking Bartel out of Carlton’s reach and Carlton make threats to make an even higher bid for Bartel, Bartel at $455,000 for 2 years is traded to Carlton for a high draft pick and Michael Rischitelli who has a salary of $240,000 over two years. Both Bartel and Rischitelli are now non-bid players, in other words they have agreed to either be signed by their new clubs as part of the trade, or have their existing contract signed over to their new club. In other words they cannot be bid for by other coaches. Bartel is signed for two years by Carlton @ $455,000 and Geelong signs Rischitelli for three years on $264,000. ($240,000 original two year contract + 10% for the extra year). They cannot be poached by other clubs until the end of their new contracts, when the whole process starts again.

Clubs CANNOT decide to just give players to another particular club for free, if they can't match the bid. They either give up on the bid, but still allows other clubs to make further bids, or they trade the player.

Minimum Bids should be in at least $30,000 increments (otherwise we’ll get overbids of $10 or other silly bids which will be too difficult to keep track of) or 1 year contract increases or both.

The club that poaches/bids successfully a player, must allocate a Pre Season Draft (PSD) pick to the poached player in order to pick him up. This rule is to prevent to many frivolous bids. In other words if a club has three PSD selections they can make three successful offers for out of contract players.

Other clubs can of course attempt to force up the price of out of contract players by bidding on them, but need to be careful they aren't left holding the can, if a bid is not matched by the other club as expected.
 

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