Windows 10: General Comments/Positives/Gripes etc

[raptalia]

Note WMP has suddenly returned, makes you wonder why it was left off. Maybe a money grab which did not work?

Edge still will not offer to save passwords even with the option switched on in advanced settings. I know this is a common problem and not just unique to my installation.

Glad you enjoy W10 MKM but it still has a few holes in it.

 

[MKMatty]

Note WMP has suddenly returned, makes you wonder why it was left off. Maybe a money grab which did not work?

Edge still will not offer to save passwords even with the option switched on in advanced settings. I know this is a common problem and not just unique to my installation.

Glad you enjoy W10 MKM but it still has a few holes in it.

WMP was on the store when windows 10 first launched. Clearly no one knew (or wouldn't pay the 30 bucks to download it) and Microsoft lost users to other media players. Daft move.

 

[MKMatty]

I'm aware of the edge password problem, most people have switched back to IE, as it's purely down to edge not being as refined as it should be. However you say IE isn't on your system? Weird. It's on mine.

 

[raptalia]

I'm aware of the edge password problem, most people have switched back to IE, as it's purely down to edge not being as refined as it should be. However you say IE isn't on your system? Weird. It's on mine.

IE is on my system I just choose not to use it. I do not see why I should go backwards and I am happy to use Chrome anyway. Edge does have its good points though. I like the permanent quick start tabs and the easy history delete options.

 

[MKMatty]

IE is on my system I just choose not to use it. I do not see why I should go backwards and I am happy to use Chrome anyway. Edge does have its good points though. I like the permanent quick start tabs and the easy history delete options.

Yeah fair point, I'm a chrome user too

 

[Gasometer]

Yeah fair point, I'm a chrome user too

I use Firefox.

Tell me why I should use Chrome?

Honest question.

 

[MKMatty]

I use Firefox.

Tell me why I should use Chrome?

Honest question.

Honesty? You shouldn't if you use Firefox. I'm pretty deep into the Google ecosystem, so it makes sense for me. Really no difference between Chrome and Firefox.

 

[Gasometer]

Honesty? You shouldn't if you use Firefox. I'm pretty deep into the Google ecosystem, so it makes sense for me. Really no difference between Chrome and Firefox.

So stick with Firefox.?

Why is Firefox better than IE?

Yeh honest.

Bit of a nufy when it comes to this.

 

[MKMatty]

So stick with Firefox.?

Why is Firefox better than IE?

Yeh honest.

Bit of a nufy when it comes to this.

Fact it gets updated a lot more frequently than anything Microsoft makes. You can use extensions etc. Just a nicer browser overall.

 

[Long Live HFC]

Don't mind Windows 10, use Firefox, and never IE or Edge, cannot get rid of Cortana however.

http://www.howtogeek.com/265027/how-to-disable-cortana-in-windows-10/

 

[muttley45]

http://www.howtogeek.com/265027/how-to-disable-cortana-in-windows-10/

Cheers, thanks for that, will have a read up and see what they reckon.

 

[raptalia]

IE is on my system I just choose not to use it. I do not see why I should go backwards and I am happy to use Chrome anyway. Edge does have its good points though. I like the permanent quick start tabs and the easy history delete options.

Since I posted that and Gates released the Anniversary edition of W10 I have noticed Chrome hanging a lot in W10. I have reverted to Firefox to see if it is a Chrome issue. The other thing about Chrome is it no longer supports all of the Java applets and Java are recommending that Java clients switch to Firefox.

This Hanging issue may not be a Chrome issue but it maybe yet another Windows 10 glitch that needs to be sorted. I did read that a conflict between W10 and Chrome existed some time back but Gates fixed it however it has re appeared with the new W10 update.

One of this issues I have had is that Big Footy hangs for some time when I post. See how I go with this post.

I have resolved to give Firefox a try for a few days and see if the problem is still there.

POSTSCRIPT: Tried the post above and it was lightning fast compared to Chrome.

 

[raptalia]

Well almost five hours into testing Firefox in Windows 10 and I have to say it is much faster than Chrome in W10. I might be my system but so far Firefox has not displayed any of the annoying slowness that afflicted Chrome.

Could it be that Gates has dropped a couple of anti Chrome nasties into the works to move users away from Chrome and toward his own product?

Couple of days in and Firefox definitely out performs Chrome in Windows 10 on my system. I put Chrome/ Windows 10 problems into a search engine and it turned up a lot of hits.

Some of the annoying things I experienced with Chrome in W10:

• The internet connection would drop out if I closed Chrome and left the computer for 30 minutes or so. Doesn't happen with Firefox as the web is there every time I hit the Firefox icon.
  
• Slow response time with Chrome, much slower than with Firefox. Firefox is not perfect but it is a definite improvement.
  
• Sites hang when transferring data. e.g some Big Posts took up to 20 seconds to post. In some cases I had the You Cannot perform that action within x seconds message. I know that Big footy had some issues with Chrome in the past so perhaps this glitch is not down to Windows alone.

I hold no torches for any particular browser as I have used all of the major browsers and happily used Chrome in Windows 7 and 8.1 and if the problems I have had can be ironed out I may to return to it. I have to say that from my experience there are issues in the Chrome interface with W10 and from where I sit Firefox is the better option at this stage but that may change.

 

[Mingo]

I've had no issues with Chrome in Windows 10 and have been using it since Windows 10 launch. In fact, the missus has switched from Firefox to Chrome because she found Firefox slow on 10.

 

[raptalia]

I've had no issues with Chrome in Windows 10 and have been using it since Windows 10 launch. In fact, the missus has switched from Firefox to Chrome because she found Firefox slow on 10.

I am the opposite, I find Firefox faster. There has to be something I am running that is different.

 

[MKMatty]

Well almost five hours into testing Firefox in Windows 10 and I have to say it is much faster than Chrome in W10. I might be my system but so far Firefox has not displayed any of the annoying slowness that afflicted Chrome.

Could it be that Gates has dropped a couple of anti Chrome nasties into the works to move users away from Chrome and toward his own product?

Couple of days in and Firefox definitely out performs Chrome in Windows 10 on my system. I put Chrome/ Windows 10 problems into a search engine and it turned up a lot of hits.

Some of the annoying things I experienced with Chrome in W10:

• The internet connection would drop out if I closed Chrome and left the computer for 30 minutes or so. Doesn't happen with Firefox as the web is there every time I hit the Firefox icon.
  
• Slow response time with Chrome, much slower than with Firefox. Firefox is not perfect but it is a definite improvement.
  
• Sites hang when transferring data. e.g some Big Posts took up to 20 seconds to post. In some cases I had the You Cannot perform that action within x seconds message. I know that Big footy had some issues with Chrome in the past so perhaps this glitch is not down to Windows alone.

I hold no torches for any particular browser as I have used all of the major browsers and happily used Chrome in Windows 7 and 8.1 and if the problems I have had can be ironed out I may to return to it. I have to say that from my experience there are issues in the Chrome interface with W10 and from where I sit Firefox is the better option at this stage but that may change.

I think you're just really paranoid about Microsoft. Also, no offence but saying its Gates fault makes you sound a bit looney and outdated IMO.

As far as your issue is concerned, I personally have run into patches of slow down on Chrome, but they're replicated themselves on Firefox too, and Firefox on my system seems a bit janky and unstable.

I think its more to do with Chrome being a bit bloated at the moment. Removal of a few unneccaries by Google will fix that with time.

 

[raptalia]

I think you're just really paranoid about Microsoft. Also, no offence but saying its Gates fault makes you sound a bit looney and outdated IMO.

As far as your issue is concerned, I personally have run into patches of slow down on Chrome, but they're replicated themselves on Firefox too, and Firefox on my system seems a bit janky and unstable.

I think its more to do with Chrome being a bit bloated at the moment. Removal of a few unneccaries by Google will fix that with time.

Microsoft were too quick to release W10. They over reacted to complaints about w8.1. An OS that I used and had no problems with. If you look at the numbers of updates, fixes and upgrades that W10 has had you will see what I mean.

You are probably right about Google being bloated but on my system Firefox is a definite improvement over Chrome and most of the issues I have had in the past do not occur when I use Firefox. I still run Google as my default search engine but on my system Google is faster and more stable in Firefox.

If Google address the issues and make life easier I am happy to return to using Chrome.

As for being suspicious of Microsoft, I am not the only one...

http://www.express.co.uk/life-style...-Report?_ga=1.189378027.1703757445.1477599689

 

[MKMatty]

Microsoft were too quick to release W10. They over reacted to complaints about w8.1. An OS that I used and had no problems with. If you look at the numbers of updates, fixes and upgrades that W10 has had you will see what I mean.

You are probably right about Google being bloated but on my system Firefox is a definite improvement over Chrome and most of the issues I have had in the past do not occur when I use Firefox. I still run Google as my default search engine but on my system Google is faster and more stable in Firefox.

If Google address the issues and make life easier I am happy to return to using Chrome.

As for being suspicious of Microsoft, I am not the only one...

http://www.express.co.uk/life-style...-Report?_ga=1.189378027.1703757445.1477599689

I disagree. Windows 10 was in simultaneous development with 8.1 and first knowledge of it's development dates back to 2011. 8.1 was always only ever meant to be a stop gap. I had it on my system and it was an absolute dog of an OS, the worst I've used by a country mile.

It's important to note that W10 doesn't 'update' like previous version of Windows have. A spokesman early in the piece said they wanted W10 to be a base platform for future large scale updates, similair to OS X/Mac OS. Where the number becomes irrelevant. We live in a world where the amount of updates something has is no longer a guide to how good a piece of software is. Chrome is on update 57 for instance, that means absolutely naught. It's whether these constant patches and bug fixes address their targeted issues, and at least from my experience, they have.

Google are planning to dump notifications, and the app aspect of Chrome, which should boost it's speed in the coming months.

 

[dav3]

Microsoft were too quick to release W10. They over reacted to complaints about w8.1. An OS that I used and had no problems with. If you look at the numbers of updates, fixes and upgrades that W10 has had you will see what I mean.

You are probably right about Google being bloated but on my system Firefox is a definite improvement over Chrome and most of the issues I have had in the past do not occur when I use Firefox. I still run Google as my default search engine but on my system Google is faster and more stable in Firefox.

If Google address the issues and make life easier I am happy to return to using Chrome.

As for being suspicious of Microsoft, I am not the only one...

http://www.express.co.uk/life-style...-Report?_ga=1.189378027.1703757445.1477599689

Not really, there are always teething problems with new products, particularly something as complex as an OS. Windows 10 wasn't built from the ground up, it's a modified version of 8.1 so development had been going on for a while.

Chrome........ unfortunately........ has been having memory leak issues for a while now. I still use it, but it wouldn't surprise me if Firefox outperformed it at the moment. It sounds like they're starting to address performance issues with the latest update (version 53) but it'll probably take a while to fix the issues completely.

 

[Ron The Bear]

I've finally come to terms with Windows 10. Updates no longer appear to be wiping my settings.

Apparently there will be an April update which restores some eye candy to Windows. Hooray!

 

[Satan]

dont normally get on here but a word for the wise

On Sunday,my tween daughter got on my laptop to play rodblox with friends, its a sign on game with password
. She finished playing and I switched off. On Tuesday switched on PC and came up with password needed..WTF , I never used one at home, at work different. Took my pc to IT guru at work who said unless I have the password, PC is contents are gone(not withstanding a back up?, iphone with email and 7000 photos and microcards for cameras.) I asked my daughter what she did and she said nothing.
Today she has been home sick and found an old laptop we had for travelling . She managed to link it to home network when i got home tonight. I saw her sign ON THIS GAME with a password. In desperation I asked her for the password on the off chance she somehow created a password for laptop. Went to my laptop.

Sometime longshots come in.


I have reset the password.


How could she create a password? Normally requires multi steps?

think I will have a stiff drink


in before deriding me for not having laptop password protected and not being on cloud...to be attended too

 

[imperial_oz]

dont normally get on here but a word for the wise

On Sunday,my tween daughter got on my laptop to play rodblox with friends, its a sign on game with password
. She finished playing and I switched off. On Tuesday switched on PC and came up with password needed..WTF , I never used one at home, at work different. Took my pc to IT guru at work who said unless I have the password, PC is contents are gone(not withstanding a back up?, iphone with email and 7000 photos and microcards for cameras.) I asked my daughter what she did and she said nothing.
Today she has been home sick and found an old laptop we had for travelling . She managed to link it to home network when i got home tonight. I saw her sign ON THIS GAME with a password. In desperation I asked her for the password on the off chance she somehow created a password for laptop. Went to my laptop.

Sometime longshots come in.


I have reset the password.


How could she create a password? Normally requires multi steps?

think I will have a stiff drink


in before deriding me for not having laptop password protected and not being on cloud...to be attended too

Sometimes Windows 10 can somewhat inconsistent in its behaviour. It's one reason I refuse to use it.

The idea that Microsoft can add updates without your explicit agreement is an absolute anathema to me. My sister in law brought her laptop over for help as Win 10 had locked up and she was in danger of losing a fair amount of work. In the end I could do nothing. The problem? Microsoft had updated it and I'm guessing she didn't allow an immediate restart. After a time it decided it was going to have to restart and then simply refused to function until the restart and install of the updates completed....some 40 minutes later. Not to mention the lost productivity.

The reason provided by Microsoft does not wash with me. They have taken away the power to decide to apply updates and now dictate to the 'owner' what they can and can't do with hardware they purchased.

Its part of a growing trend from companies that wish to have control over what a user does with their products. Apple constantly adds updates to defeat people who wish to jailbreak their equipment. Too bad if you paid for it but Apple wants to retain control over it.

Sony has done things like install rootkits if you use a CD in your computer. They've sued people who program additional dance moves into the robot they 'sold' to people.

Anyway, I could go on but rant over. You get my point by now.

Next time you have that problem, use a non-windows bootdisk. Unless you have encrypted your hard disk, you will be able to copy your data off to a USB drive. Trust me, that part is easy. If you have encrypted your disk or your user partition, it can still be recovered but that takes specialist software and techniques (and time). The worst to deal with is full disk encryption but in my experience, thats a rare beast.

My advice, don't use Windows but if you have to then you can generally recover your data in the event of something going bad.

 

[Satan]

Sometimes Windows 10 can somewhat inconsistent in its behaviour. It's one reason I refuse to use it.

The idea that Microsoft can add updates without your explicit agreement is an absolute anathema to me. My sister in law brought her laptop over for help as Win 10 had locked up and she was in danger of losing a fair amount of work. In the end I could do nothing. The problem? Microsoft had updated it and I'm guessing she didn't allow an immediate restart. After a time it decided it was going to have to restart and then simply refused to function until the restart and install of the updates completed....some 40 minutes later. Not to mention the lost productivity.

The reason provided by Microsoft does not wash with me. They have taken away the power to decide to apply updates and now dictate to the 'owner' what they can and can't do with hardware they purchased.

Its part of a growing trend from companies that wish to have control over what a user does with their products. Apple constantly adds updates to defeat people who wish to jailbreak their equipment. Too bad if you paid for it but Apple wants to retain control over it.

Sony has done things like install rootkits if you use a CD in your computer. They've sued people who program additional dance moves into the robot they 'sold' to people.

Anyway, I could go on but rant over. You get my point by now.

Next time you have that problem, use a non-windows bootdisk. Unless you have encrypted your hard disk, you will be able to copy your data off to a USB drive. Trust me, that part is easy. If you have encrypted your disk or your user partition, it can still be recovered but that takes specialist software and techniques (and time). The worst to deal with is full disk encryption but in my experience, thats a rare beast.

My advice, don't use Windows but if you have to then you can generally recover your data in the event of something going bad.

Thanks

 

[dav3]

dont normally get on here but a word for the wise

On Sunday,my tween daughter got on my laptop to play rodblox with friends, its a sign on game with password
. She finished playing and I switched off. On Tuesday switched on PC and came up with password needed..WTF , I never used one at home, at work different. Took my pc to IT guru at work who said unless I have the password, PC is contents are gone(not withstanding a back up?, iphone with email and 7000 photos and microcards for cameras.) I asked my daughter what she did and she said nothing.
Today she has been home sick and found an old laptop we had for travelling . She managed to link it to home network when i got home tonight. I saw her sign ON THIS GAME with a password. In desperation I asked her for the password on the off chance she somehow created a password for laptop. Went to my laptop.

Sometime longshots come in.


I have reset the password.


How could she create a password? Normally requires multi steps?

think I will have a stiff drink


in before deriding me for not having laptop password protected and not being on cloud...to be attended too

Odd "guru", unless the laptop was encrypted it should be pretty straight forward to recover any data. What OS was it? I thought Windows 7/8/10 required passwords on accounts.

If your kid is going to do stuff like that, give them their own account, that way if they lock it out at least you can recover it with your own account. Plus you can make them a regular user so they can't make changes to your system.

 

[Satan]

Odd "guru", unless the laptop was encrypted it should be pretty straight forward to recover any data. What OS was it? I thought Windows 7/8/10 required passwords on accounts.

If your kid is going to do stuff like that, give them their own account, that way if they lock it out at least you can recover it with your own account. Plus you can make them a regular user so they can't make changes to your system.

Cheers , you may have missed the punchline, I was able to log in. She now has a laptop with nothing on it bar basics , have reset my laptop and she cant log in