Preview Rnd 1 - Fremantle vs North Melbourne 24th March 3:20pm

[theGav56]

Just throwing back a few pages to the LDU comparison to Mundy's development. Mundy was being groomed for a role in defense, and I don't think there was much idea that he could transition to the midfield. Without quite being a KPP, it would always take a bit longer preparing to match it against big forwards than against midfielders.

I thought LDU had some commitment issues and was off surfing rather than demonstrating the drive to become an AFL player???

I actually think that is one of the benefits of non-WA players being drafted to the club - less distraction. Mind you, if you are looking for distraction, you'll find it. The fast-tracked development of Brayshaw, Cerra and Darcy has been remarkable. To have those boys on the cusp of taking up major roles for the club is terrific, especially when player development hasn't always been a strength.

 

[sherrif]

Let's just say that I have watched enough footy to make a confident call on this and I particularly have a good eye for inside mids.

I was the first person on our board to call Swallow back in 2006 after only watching him play 1 game in the VFL, and he was pick 43. He went on to become a pretty good player.



No AFL positions are easy, but the ability to arrive in the AFL fit has a significant advantage in making early calls on debutantes. It's also a very misleading comparison with pure inside mids & KPP's who of course take a while longer.

So you've come to the freo board saying you know more about Hogan's foot situation because you have 'sources'. Despite the fact people here have watched him regularly and talked to him about how his progress is different to your call to rule him out for round 1, while at same time having a go at freo supporters for having an opinion on LDU. Hypercritical much?

Really unsure about this as well from a previous post from you
''My claim is that the only thing he lacks are genuine burst pace and endurance. He'll never have the burst pace'
Im not sure on the accuracy of your view on LDU if you think he lacks burst pace. His pace is obvious even in his draft year highlights. That's why some compared him to Chris Judd before he got drafted and why plenty on the North Board were wrapt to get him on draft night, because they felt they had finally added some speed. If thats not the case then he's hasnt got the attributes that led him get drafted so early in the first place and wasnt worth the early pick.

I must know what im talking about (all the examples 100% true) because I once said Barlow was going to be a gun after watching one training session, that Fyfe despite being skinny might play earlier than people think in his first year and that Alex Pearce would play 200 games for freo after watching him play one wafl game. Funnuly enough I also said Josh Simpson would play 250 games for Freo after watching a couple of training sessions and that Max Duffy looked like an awesome pick-up after watching his highlights. My point simply if you make enough big calls some have to come true. Not sure why your views would be any different. LDU showed enough promise to be a consensu top 5 pick by pretty much every draft expert. Hardly enlightening to say he has promise.

 

[Snake_Baker]

I thought LDU had some commitment issues and was off surfing rather than demonstrating the drive to become an AFL player???

Nah, the kid has been great. Been working his backside off and is being mentored by Cunnington, who is a man of few words, but rates Luke very highly:

http://www.nmfc.com.au/news/2019-02-04/cunningtons-new-role

 

[sherrif]

Yep, because a senior player providing encouragement to a young player is such a great source of accurate information to back up your argument. Pretty much happens every preseason at every club. The good news is that every draft expert disagrees with your informed view that he lacks explosiveness. Here's Knightmare's view but all the draft previews are pretty much all the same in regard to listing explosiveness as a strength of LDU. Its obvious in any clips as well.
http://www.espn.com/afl/story/_/id/...november-cameron-rayner-tops-list-ahead-draft

Must be great to learn you've got one more explosive mid that you thought. Happy days.

 

[theGav56]

Yep, because a senior player providing encouragement to a young player is such a great source of accurate information to back up your argument. Pretty much happens every preseason at every club. The good news is that every draft expert disagrees with your informed view that he lacks explosiveness. Here's Knightmare's view but all the draft previews are pretty much all the same in regard to listing explosiveness as a strength of LDU. Its obvious in any clips as well.
http://www.espn.com/afl/story/_/id/...november-cameron-rayner-tops-list-ahead-draft

Must be great to learn you've got one more explosive mid that you thought. Happy days.

Knightmare caned us for our draft selections (B), especially due to taking Brayshaw at 2. When you look through the top tier of that particular draft it is a pretty decent draft to have ended up with 2 high picks. I have a lot of confidence in that bunch, and thrilled we got Brayshaw and Cerra. Would have been quite happy at the time with a combination of most of the top 8, but with our current midfield development those two boys seem a perfect choice for us.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Knightmare caned us for our draft selections.......

I wouldn't go losing any sleep over that.

 

[theGav56]

I wouldn't go losing any sleep over that.

Not sure where you got the impression from my post that I may have done that?

I'm fine with his assessment, but don't agree with it. He bases his assessments off what he would have done, and sticks to it. It is a one dimensional way to view it, but at least he is clear. I think the club prioritised the leadership potential of Brayshaw above what players such as LDU offered, and I support that. I also suspect that the club believed they could potentially get both Brayshaw and Cerra, and played their cards accordingly. May well have rated Cerra (or others) higher.

The club's list management during the rebuild has been A grade without a doubt. I am not sure how deliberate the planning has been, but will give them the benefit if the doubt. It certainly looks like there was a strategy to focus on defense, midfield and then forward. I am not a huge believer in luck and prefer to see the dividends the club enjoyed from the losses of Mayne, Weller and Neale as the result of creative and well planned list management. There has been a real clarity in the types of players the club has targeted, and our age profile has been tweaked nicely.

 

[sherrif]

I wouldn't go losing any sleep over that.

No problems. Name any draft expert you do rate then. All of them described LDU as being explosive in strengths and weakness articles. LIke I said its good news. You've come to the freo board and we are alll here to help you learn more about a player who plays for you. The relevance to this thread is that for the round 1 Id expect LDU to be named to give you more inside pace. If he's not ahead of Tyson by round 1 id be surprised. He's upside is obvious, but Im still happy with our decision to recruit Brayshaw who this preseason has put on some muscle and improved his running to the point he finished second in our 2km run. His track performances are pretty remarkable for a second year player who in his first year showed he can also win the ball on the inside, while at the same time being good enough defensively to lead us in tackles per game.

 

[Groin guru]

From memory it was the Bigfooty North Melbourne Board, which would shine a light on the issue from Fremantle Board's perspective.

Then you are highly mistaken. Most on the North board wanted Cerra. No one really factored in LDU as most thought he'd be off the table. The reality is the top handful could have gone to any club and those clubs would have all been happy.

 

[freo84]

Then you are highly mistaken. Most on the North board wanted Cerra. No one really factored in LDU as most thought he'd be off the table. The reality is the top handful could have gone to any club and those clubs would have all been happy.

I agree that the top 5 or even top 10 are very even atm. Way to early in their careers to make any defining calls.

I remember there being a lolfreo and thanksfreo thing on the main board. I dont really venture on to opposing boards very often so I cant comment on the LDU vs Cerra commentary.

But I will say that my buddy Cerra is the best thing since sliced bread. [emoji12] [emoji12]

 

[Taylor]

The other issue the Fremantle Board has is Groin guru being certain Adam Cerra was going home at the end of last year.

 

[Groin guru]

The other issue the Fremantle Board has is Groin guru being certain Adam Cerra was going home at the end of last year.

Got any of them "certain" posts? I still maintain he had the feelers out there probing about the possibility of a return. But of course, that's also a smart/easy strategy to get some extra $$$ in a deal. He'll be back in Melbourne at the end of his next contract and he'll be paid a lot as will Freo in return.

 

[Taylor]

Got any of them "certain" posts? I still maintain he had the feelers out there probing about the possibility of a return. But of course, that's also a smart/easy strategy to get some extra $$$ in a deal. He'll be back in Melbourne at the end of his next contract and he'll be paid a lot as will Freo in return.

In 2 years we'll have dow, cerra, and Kelly

Yep. Cerra's manager is only throwing up a smokescreen by saying he's close to a new deal. He knows full well that Cerra putting off contract talks = alarm bells and when his name gets thrown up in trade talks it adds pressure to Cerra.

His manager should have just said "hey! What about the McGovern's? They haven't signed go pester them"

He has told his manager he didn't want to sign a contract extension. A worrying sign. Apparently freo wanted him at #2 in the draft and he said he didn't want to go there. Freo said if you're still there at #5 we are picking you. Not good when these kids get groomed by a club and start suggest homesickness etc. but it is what it is until the rules change and a players mental health comes first.

Interesting he is a North fan and like Paddy Dow and Stephenson he hinted at North being the place he wanted to go on draft night.

Norths 1st round and Mountford

For

Freo's Adam Cerra

Watch this space.

That sort of language.

 

[salim malik]

Got any of them "certain" posts? I still maintain he had the feelers out there probing about the possibility of a return. But of course, that's also a smart/easy strategy to get some extra $$$ in a deal. He'll be back in Melbourne at the end of his next contract and he'll be paid a lot as will Freo in return.

Unless you know Cerra or his management you would have had zero knowledge of what Cerra plans were are what they will be in the future. Posters with so called inside info need to get their hand of it.

 

[Groin guru]

Unless you know Cerra or his management you would have had zero knowledge of what Cerra plans were are what they will be in the future. Posters with so called inside info need to get their hand of it.

Maybe I do. I'm not sure why posters think the football news world is some impenetrable vault. Players gossip. Friends and family members of players gossip. Managers intentionally leak news for different reasons. Thanks to social media and various forms of communication it's quite easy for people to share information. I'm sorry to burst your bubble.

 

[Del191229]

I think we can all agree that good Victorian boys LDU, Cerra and Brayshaw will all end up as great players for their teams.

Am counting the days til this one.

 

[Groin guru]

That sort of language.

Only certain post I see there is "2 years" - mmm, signed a 2-year extension...

 

[Taylor]

Only certain post I see there is "2 years" - mmm, signed a 2-year extension...

You said that about ten minutes after Adam Cerra was drafted. That makes it end of this season.

 

[Wedge McManus]

Teffy is a pretty well known troll, this would be about his 12th account on BF. And yes, they've all been equally poor.

truly an inspired post

 

[salim malik]

Maybe I do. I'm not sure why posters think the football news world is some impenetrable vault. Players gossip. Friends and family members of players gossip. Managers intentionally leak news for different reasons. Thanks to social media and various forms of communication it's quite easy for people to share information. I'm sorry to burst your




Reading between the lines tells me you know stuff all ,posting bull shit to make yourself sound important on an opposition board is laughable.

 

[Deveraux]

Only certain post I see there is "2 years" - mmm, signed a 2-year extension...

The elite inside knowledge says he was a North's fan?

He was/is in fact a Tigers fan, but whatever suits the narrative.

Better check your sources man

 

[Joao]

It's bad enough taking Groin's bait on the main board, why the **** are people engaging him here?

 

[Deathly]

Gee I hope we don't put up another Round 1 Preview this early again. Not sure if I could be able to read through a bunch of garbage about another opposition club again.

 

[theGav56]

Gee I hope we don't put up another Round 1 Preview this early again. Not sure if I could be able to read through a bunch of garbage about another opposition club again.

Deathly...talk to me about your buddy Giro. Is he any shot at round 1? I know generally the thinking is a big body to mix it up at the coal face, but what impact could he have for us? Where/when will things open up for him?

 

[Snake_Baker]

Gee I hope we don't put up another Round 1 Preview this early again. Not sure if I could be able to read through a bunch of garbage about another opposition club again.

I'm just trying to bring Freo fans up to date with a small club across the other side of the country who you otherwise probably wouldn't read much about over there, in relation to our season opener. My intentions are honorable.