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Did the Beatles benefit from early retirement? I think so. If the Stones called it quits at Start Me Up, their last big hit to my knowledge, would they be though of the same?

Same goes for Led Zeppelin. Huge beneficiary of early retirement.

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The Beatles do benefit from the mystique and legend around them. A dozen classic albums all in an 8 year period and then they were done and the members went off to do their own thing. But they missed out on changing musical styles and influences in the 1970s and Lennon dying meant there was no chance of any reunion gigs down the track. Had they continued as a group during the 70s they might have produced some more classic hits, or they might have faded a bit.

The Stones' timeline is a bit different. Even Start Me Up came out in 1981, a full decade after The Beatles finished up even though the two groups started at the same time. Having been successful for two decades they ran with the 'touring until they all die' thing and even though I probably couldn't tell you their names all their albums since 1981 have gone top 5 in the charts all around the world. They are popular and sell out stadiums as a bunch of 70 year olds.

Zeppelin are awesome. How would history view AC/DC if they called it quits when Bon Scott died?
 
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Zeppelin are awesome. How would history view AC/DC if they called it quits when Bon Scott died?

A band that was cut down when they were on the edge of something special and about to dominate their genre. They probably would have avoided the 'every song sounds the same' label they've ended up with too.

Lets be honest, not many bands have lost a player as key as Bon Scott and only gotten bigger. AC/DC pulling stumps at Razors Edge would have seen them going out on top. However, they still do Stones like tour figures themselves.

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It's stupid. Pretty sure i'm slowly losing the plot, i don't know if i'm unlucky or what but the last three years have just been ****ed. I don't even care anymore, I just find it funny. I don't want kids, can't see myself meeting someone that I'd genuinely love, don't really see the point. If mum wasn't around I don't think I would be either.
 
It's stupid. Pretty sure i'm slowly losing the plot, i don't know if i'm unlucky or what but the last three years have just been ******. I don't even care anymore, I just find it funny. I don't want kids, can't see myself meeting someone that I'd genuinely love, don't really see the point. If mum wasn't around I don't think I would be either.
Just keep plugging along. Things turn around.

Even just go for a nice walk makes you feel better. I know it sounds boring but it is great for a mood lift.

Get up early. Get moving. Don't lay around in bed. Walk. Eat. Do whatever.



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It's stupid. Pretty sure i'm slowly losing the plot, i don't know if i'm unlucky or what but the last three years have just been ******. I don't even care anymore, I just find it funny. I don't want kids, can't see myself meeting someone that I'd genuinely love, don't really see the point. If mum wasn't around I don't think I would be either.
Things do change. In my experience life is all about ups and downs, the downs make the ups so much better and without the downs the ups have no value.

Keep chugging along, be the best you can be and things will change for you.
 
Just keep plugging along. Things turn around.

Even just go for a nice walk makes you feel better. I know it sounds boring but it is great for a mood lift.

Get up early. Get moving. Don't lay around in bed. Walk. Eat. Do whatever.



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Couldn't agree more, fantastic advice. It's proven that exercise is of great benefit in this area. I know I miss it enormously if I don't do it for an extended period.
 
At a bit of a crossrads currently.

Finished my degree, had a couple of interviews but no success. Kind of just languishing in my shitty part time job at the moment. Feel a bit low and jaded, found myself withdrawing from interaction with family and friends who have started going their own way.

I have always wanted to play a year of cricket in England and now seems like the ideal time - except for the fact id be leaving my girlfriend behind in her job. She isnt the kind that would up and move for 6 months. She travelled a lot before we met and has settled in to a stable life.

Not really sure what to do and worried that taking either path my lead to significant regret either way.
 
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At a bit of a crossrads currently.

Finished my degree, had a couple of interviews but no success. Kind of just languishing in my shitty part time job at the moment. Feel a bit low and jaded, found myself withdrawing from interaction with family and friends who have started going their own way.

I have always wanted to play a year of cricket in England and now seems like the ideal time - except for the fact id be leaving my girlfriend behind in her job. She isnt the kind that would up and move for 6 months. She travelled a lot before we met and has settled in to a stable life.

Not really sure what to and worried that taking either path my lead to significant regret either way.
Ditch the girlfriend and swing the willow and the duke.
 
I gave up on graduate job hunting once the realisation of no jobs (including voluntary positions) were available.

It's downright disheartening being stuck in a shitkicker role that you are expected to do whilst at uni.

Sometimes you have to be prepared to move sideways and that may include the need to get out of the country.

Having said that not an easy thing to do if you have kids, a partner, need to care for someone, mortgage and other debt etc.
 
At a bit of a crossrads currently.

Finished my degree, had a couple of interviews but no success. Kind of just languishing in my shitty part time job at the moment. Feel a bit low and jaded, found myself withdrawing from interaction with family and friends who have started going their own way.

I have always wanted to play a year of cricket in England and now seems like the ideal time - except for the fact id be leaving my girlfriend behind in her job. She isnt the kind that would up and move for 6 months. She travelled a lot before we met and has settled in to a stable life.

Not really sure what to do and worried that taking either path my lead to significant regret either way.
Interviews are not always going to be successful. Keep trying, you'll get there.
 
At a bit of a crossrads currently.

Finished my degree, had a couple of interviews but no success. Kind of just languishing in my shitty part time job at the moment. Feel a bit low and jaded, found myself withdrawing from interaction with family and friends who have started going their own way.

I have always wanted to play a year of cricket in England and now seems like the ideal time - except for the fact id be leaving my girlfriend behind in her job. She isnt the kind that would up and move for 6 months. She travelled a lot before we met and has settled in to a stable life.

Not really sure what to do and worried that taking either path my lead to significant regret either way.
Does she know how to score?
 
If you're struggling to get work, just make a thread about it. Say things like how much you were loved at the interview, how the lead interviewer cried when you left, how good you were in that line of work, and how you didn't get the job but you're going to get another one that pays an extra $22,000 a year. Always works.
 

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Does she know how to score?
I did scoring for around 10 years when my son was playing cricket, for a few years there did all day Saturday club cricket and all day Sunday Rep cricket, very therapeutic.

He was a fast bowler so that all ended when he f...ed his back up, it's stuffed now and he's only 33.
 
At a bit of a crossrads currently.

Finished my degree, had a couple of interviews but no success. Kind of just languishing in my shitty part time job at the moment. Feel a bit low and jaded, found myself withdrawing from interaction with family and friends who have started going their own way.

I have always wanted to play a year of cricket in England and now seems like the ideal time - except for the fact id be leaving my girlfriend behind in her job. She isnt the kind that would up and move for 6 months. She travelled a lot before we met and has settled in to a stable life.

Not really sure what to do and worried that taking either path my lead to significant regret either way.
Sounds tough. Personally if I was you I'd go to England. I've just finished uni too and am dreading the whole job hunting process I'm about to begin. Will be very surprised if I find anything decent with the way I went about my studies at uni. If I could go back in time and study harder I would. But here we are.

If I don't get a job straight away I think I'm just going to keep looking, but also save and maybe head somewhere for a while.

The girlfriend part obviously makes it hard. But in my opinion anyway I feel like it's one of those things you'll regret not doing when you're older if you don't go.

I'm now a big proponent of getting away when you can. I never really thought about it coming out of school, I didn't save a lot of money either. Meanwhile a few of my mates went to Europe for weeks. I still plan to go and will go hopefully sometime soon, but if I've got a proper job getting away for ages isn't that easy. Plus I want to do it with a few mates and they'll probably be in full time work too. It's not a massive regret but it would have been nice to have spent ages in Europe while taking some time off uni.
 
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My advice to those just about finishing university and struggling in the job market is to chip away at it. It's now too late to get better grades and participate in most extracurricular activities but you can most certainly boost your CV by gaining some professional maturity, even if it's not directly in the field your degree is in. Save your money and go gain life experience, or vice versa. It'll make for an interesting topic of discussion during an interview when you get back.

I would have liked to have taken a gap year after uni, as I had athletic pursuits I wanted to chase overseas, but fortunately enough also had a job offer and a workplace that wanted me ASAP. There aren't too many careers that would let you pull up stumps and go away on a sabbatical for a year. So, I say go and do it.
 
Does anybody else do a lot of living on the weekends, but S.F.A during the week? I work, train footy and sit on my a$$. But come weekends I'm never home and always out and about.
 

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"But not all readers empathised with Ms Elphick, with some bemoaning the lack of drive by millennial job-hunters, saying they should lower their standards or try different things such as volunteering or working for free."

Typical dumb, outdated baby boomer advice. Working for free leads to paid employment about 0% of the time.
 
"But not all readers empathised with Ms Elphick, with some bemoaning the lack of drive by millennial job-hunters, saying they should lower their standards or try different things such as volunteering or working for free."

Typical dumb, outdated baby boomer advice. Working for free leads to paid employment about 0% of the time.
Saw an article the other week by some old, rich muffin shop executive complaining about the fact that millennials aren't willing to work for free anymore. Of course her explanation for this was that all millennials are lazy and unmotivated, not because they don't want to be taken advantage of by big businesses who prey on jobseekers' desperation to exploit them for free labour.
 
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Does anybody else do a lot of living on the weekends, but S.F.A during the week? I work, train footy and sit on my a$$. But come weekends I'm never home and always out and about.
When the weekend comes lately Ive been doing the opposite.

Just kicking back.



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Saw an article the other week by some old, rich muffin shop executive complaining about the fact that millennials aren't willing to work for free anymore. Of course her explanation for this was that all millennials are lazy and unmotivated, not because they don't want to be taken advantage of by big businesses who prey on jobseekers' desperation to exploit them for free labour.
I saw this woman's comments.

What a ****ing joke.

I wonder if she will give away free products to compensate.
 
Yeah, whenever I see this "working for free to further your career" nonsense you know there's some rich oldy not far away who wants shit done but doesn't want to pay for it.
There's constant pressure to under-value your skills, based upon some future intangible that usually doesn't exist.

The only reason I work is for the money. If they're not paying me then I'm not turning up.
 

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