Preview Round 1, 2019: St.Kilda v Gold Coast - Marvel Stadium, Sunday 24th March, 1:10PM AEDT *Parker, Wilkie & Kent Debut*

[VDS66]

I miss complaining about Mav, someone hug me.

Well he was picked last night. Maybe you should visit the tigers board?

 

[Verdun66]

Clark is one of the few positives to come from last year and a big year from him this year is needed so badly so him not playing is a bit a shock me thinks

You don't need a beer George I have had plenty for everyone

I'm disappointed Hunter is not in. Especially as his advocate. But I watched him closely in the JLT and he did some nice things in patches. But then went missing. Part of that was sitting on the pine, but I think he struggled a bit aerobically. I reckon they just want to run the Suns off their feet. The Suns are fast, but could well fade. Maybe Hunter didn't fit the requirement to run all day. Despite all his PB's!! And thanks for the beer!

 

[triggering bro]

I miss complaining about Mav, someone hug me.

How good will it be visiting the Tigers board on selection night when the bleached one keeps getting picked despite outings of 10 disposals, 0.3 & 6 double bicep poses...

 

[kernelT]

How good will it be visiting the Tigers board on selection night when the bleached one keeps getting picked despite outings of 10 disposals, 0.3 & 6 double bicep poses...

They probably won't even care… sitting at 2 - 12, but I'm definitely interested and available.

 

[mightymalaka]

How good will it be visiting the Tigers board on selection night when the bleached one keeps getting picked despite outings of 10 disposals, 0.3 & 6 double bicep poses...

I miss him already!
You know how hard it is to flex and bleach your anus at the same time?

He was very underrated was our Cyclops!

 

[Impatient Saint]

Interesting final team hopefully Ratten has some plans as to how we are going to mark the ball forward - good luck Saints!

 

[Persevering Saint]

Disappointed Marshall didn’t get a run but understand the decision to play Wilkie. His vertical leap will be used to cover 2MP, has trained with backs and is most like-for-like Robbo.

Probably the better choice tbh.

Wilkie is fine, but he's not taken Marshall's spot. That's one of the small forwards.

 

[plugger66]

Im

Well by observing the players from u 18s to how they have played at St Kilda how they have been develop. Listening to what the players have said. I have been saying it for years now.

These are the key issues that I think stifle the development of our younger players.

Played in the wrong positions
this to me is the biggest issue of all and why it has taken some guys so long to adapt the AFL level. A player such as Jack Lonie, Ben Patton, Blake Acres, Jack Sinclair going back last year Minch and Mav too who had dominated in the VFL in the midfield would continuously be named in the senior team in a pocket this is especially true to Jack Lonie. Lonie would constantly try his all but of course not be able to ifnd consistancy as he was being played in a different poisiotn to the one in the VFL. This would continue for a few games before he would undoubtedly be dropped. Now I'm not asking Lonie to be played the whole game in the midfield, not even a quarter but some time pls. This issue is exagertated in games where we have dominated/been dominated. Whats to lose nothing. I don't know how you can expect a young player to succeed if they cannot get consistency in a position. The other problem is it takes far longer for the players to develop because they are always been throwing back anf fourth between VFL and AFL meaning it takes longer to adapt to AFL.

Knocking the flair out of the player
I think this is an issue of Richo not being able to adapt his methods to different players. Both Dunstan and Lonie said that they stopped playing on instinct due to structures, having to be defensively minded etc etc. Now I;m not saying don;t have structures but you need to allow young players to play with confidence and take the game on. Guys like Coff, Dmac, White, I feel are being made to be so defensively minded that it takes away form their natural game. Now of course balance is key but you;ve got to allow for some mistakes especially from young players.

Not having trust in the younger players in crucial games/crucial moments
This one I ca understand a little especially with the coach under so much pressure but I don't know how we can expect to see our young players really take the next step if they are not trusted by the coach to deliver. Time and time again Richo has looked to players like Steven, Ross, Dunstan and Arimtage over the likes of Acres, Gresh , Sincs, Clark at times where opposition teams have gotten on top of us whilst playing against the guys in the midfield that I mentioned first. Now we can only compare to what other teams do. In the game between Geelong and North last year I think where the game came down to the last centre bounce I couldn;t belive my eyes when I saw Quinton Narkle in his first game be in the square for the last clearance. Furthermore in one of Hawthorns games they Had Morrision and Cousins in the midfield at the same time. For Richo to do this it has been far and few between in his tenure so far.

Lack of selections integrity

Time and time again guys who have played well in the seniors get dropped especially young players such as Acres, White so other guys who have played worse such as Newnes, Weller, Arimtage have been selected. Or have been played in alternate positions to suit older guys who have been playing at a low level. this lowers a young players confidence especially earl on in their development.

Impressive. The only problem with all that is thinking that Uber 17 players are equal with under 18 players. Unfortunately for that simple equation is the players go up and down very easily. I’d love to use paddy as an example but that’s far to easy. Maybe bont. No again to easy. Or even maybe the fact we have recruited many so slower non spreading mids. No you are right. Again to easy

 

[pebblesofsand]

Interesting final team hopefully Ratten has some plans as to how we are going to mark the ball forward - good luck Saints!

You know that with the 6/6/6 setups and the subsequent quick ball movement out of the centre - Lonie to CHF when Bruce rucks is just so obvious.

 

[cooperrules]

Look guys weve lost mcartin so everything weve planned for is in the shithouse. So on sunday just ****en wing it. Go saints

 

[VDS66]

Pre-season form. Happy to clarify for you.

Who has missed out then, apart from Clarke and Marshall?

 

[VDS66]

Yeah but they had mullets and synthesiser music so they didn't care.

Shoulder pads and perms...

 

[NarklesHelmet]

Probably the only selection I have a ? Over

I can only reason that he isn't fit enough for a full game in the middle, and can't play elsewhere.

Yeah it's a strange one alright.

I'm disappointed that he hasn't taken the chance to command a place in the side through his performances. Same as Coffield. One naturally has higher hopes for the top 10 draft picks, especially in long re-build like ours.

 

[VDS66]

I'd like to know which one of the selected 22, based on preseason form, shouldn't have been picked?

 

[boydie]

Acres is clearly not match fit. He is gaining fitness through the 2s. Reckon Austin would be the same.

Fair point but dmac played exactly 0min of preseason games too I think? How he getting a game over Clark?
Just baffling.
We would want to win Sunday but at least 6 goals.

 

[boydie]

I'd like to know which one of the selected 22, based on preseason form, shouldn't have been picked?

Dmac??

 

[boydie]

I’m not sure what you mean mate. Can you not see the glaringly obvious issue here? Other teams are blooding their talented youngsters whilst we are neglecting them.

Yep 100% agree, look how many cats have playing tonight plus all their 2nd year players playing, we got no 2nd years, we do have couple of debutants that deserve a game playing which at least is positive

 

[BrutThough]

Reading through all these melts was certainly an adventure.

I’m disappointed Hunter isn’t picked but after looking back at his JLT form, I can understand the decision. Hopefully a week or two at Sandy is all he will need to show his dominance.

With the team picked, it’s the perfect opportunity for JB and Gresh to show us they are midfielders. Also hasn’t been discussed but DMac has been lining up on the wing during match sim so he should be in the midfield rotation too.

 

[kernelT]

I'd like to know which one of the selected 22, based on preseason form, shouldn't have been picked?

If we're serious about that question probably
Ben long
Pierce
Gresham
Bruce
Dunstan
Lonie
Wilkie

J steven*

 

[Joffaboy]

Got to admit, disappointed in last nights melts, thought the forum had lost its edge.

But tonight has restored my faith in the knowledge and insight of the Saints bigfooty luminaries [emoji6][emoji6][emoji6]

 

[VDS66]

If we're serious about that question probably
Ben long
Pierce
Gresham
Bruce
Dunstan
Lonie
Wilkie

J steven*

Lol.

So do you replace them with that are fit and ready to go?

If you're serious about answering it, look me up.

 

[Premium]

Look guys weve lost mcartin so everything weve planned for is in the shithouse. So on sunday just ****en wing it. Go saints

Sorry but McCartin not playing will not effect to much

 

[VDS66]

Fair point but dmac played exactly 0min of preseason games too I think? How he getting a game over Clark?
Just baffling.
We would want to win Sunday but at least 6 goals.

Dmac was best 22 last year.

On this logic, Steven shouldn't play.

 

[Big 0]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...s/news-story/fcec6518689d935c0b6ca977ea4c2b36

Can anyone anti-paywal this article? Want to see what Slobbo says

 

[Ekomaira]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...s/news-story/fcec6518689d935c0b6ca977ea4c2b36

Can anyone anti-paywal this article? Want to see what Slobbo says

https://outline.com/camhAc