Traded Oscar Allen [Joins Brisbane as RFA]

[Jeremy McLovin]

You’re delusional if you think he is worth that level of compensation. Best to come to terms with it now that he’s not that good of a player.

He’s kicked 32 goals in two seasons. By that metric, Mason Wood would be worth first round compensation

He's obviously not worth pick 2 if brisbane were trading with us. But they know his contract needs to be band 1 worthy if they want to get him, and as such band 1 is what it will be. That most likely gets us pick 2, pending the final ladder position. It's really not hard to understand.

 

[THE_GUN]

Months ago the rhetoric was there’s no chance he’d be worth pick 2, now it’s a conspiracy. The fact is the contract will be band 1 worthy, any talk of 650 x 3 is a joke as he’d be offered more from the eagles.

You know this how ?
I doubt anybody would know this as "FACT"

 

[Senor M]

He's obviously not worth pick 2 if brisbane were trading with us. But they know his contract needs to be band 1 worthy if they want to get him, and as such band 1 is what it will be. That most likely gets us pick 2, pending the final ladder position. It's really not hard to understand.

Brisbane isn’t going to pay Allen that much—- because he’s not worth it. Why would the Lions, the reigning premiership side overpay for an injury prone spud.

 

[Shueygod]

Bayley Fritsch is a better option than Oscar Allen.

Allen’s had ONE good season in his career; overhyped much. Toby Greene kicked more goals than Allen did in 2023. Kyle Langford almost kicked as many in 2023.

Allen is a far better player than Fritsch.

He kicked the 7th most goals that year, I don’t know what relevance Greene kicking more is supposed to have.

 

[Shueygod]

You know this how ?
I doubt anybody would know this as "FACT"

I know it’s far more likely than him getting 650 x 3 years like some have said in here. It’s already been reported he’s getting offered over 800 x 5 yet some will pretend otherwise.

 

[Shueygod]

Would you have preferred it if I said that Allen kicked 25 less goals than Charlie Curnow and 23 less goals than Tex Walker.

If you think Greene and Allen are comparable as players, I’m not sure what sport you’re watching. Greene is effectively a flanker who averaged 18 disposals a game in 2023– Allen kicked 53 goals as a key forward averaging less than 11 disposals.

…and that’s his BEST season.

A key forward who averages less than 1.5 goals a game isn’t worth first round compensation

Why would you compare them then

 

[THE_GUN]

I know it’s far more likely than him getting 650 x 3 years like some have said in here. It’s already been reported he’s getting offered over 800 x 5 yet some will pretend otherwise.

You dont know anything apart from what is being reported exactly like all of us

Where was it reported over $800k x 5 ?

 

[THE_GUN]

Its also been reported

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Brisbane Lions still looming large for free agent Oscar Allen

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Oscar Allen

Age

26

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.8

2star

K

6.6

3star

HB

3.2

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

1.1

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.2

4star

but West Coast confident they can keep him​

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Brisbane isn’t going to pay Allen that much—- because he’s not worth it. Why would the Lions, the reigning premiership side overpay for an injury prone spud.

Then they won’t get him ? And if they weren’t going to pay him that much he wouldn’t have picked up the phone.

 

[Shueygod]

You dont know anything apart from what is being reported exactly like all of us

Where was it reported over $800k x 5 ?

$1m twist in pursuit of Eagles skipper; young gun ‘almost too loyal’ as rival circles: Trade Whispers

In-demand gun ‘almost too loyal’ as rival circles; $1m twist in pursuit of Eagles star — Whispers

www.foxsports.com.au

6 x 800k is the spoken about offer.

Can’t imagine it takes much to go from that offer to band 1.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

$1m twist in pursuit of Eagles skipper; young gun ‘almost too loyal’ as rival circles: Trade Whispers

In-demand gun ‘almost too loyal’ as rival circles; $1m twist in pursuit of Eagles star — Whispers

www.foxsports.com.au

6 x 800k is the spoken about offer.

Can’t imagine it takes much to go from that offer to band 1.

Same offer Josh Battle had who was hand 1…

 

[Shueygod]

Same offer Josh Battle had who was hand 1…

But why would the reigning premier whose biggest hole is a KPF spend on the best KPF on the market?

 

[rye]

i can't believe people would complain about a player of allen's caliber attracting band 1 compensation.

he is far better than ben mckay

32

Ben Mckay

Age

28

Ht

202cm

Wt

104kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.5

2star

K

3.7

1star

HB

3.8

3star

M

2.7

3star

T

1.7

4star

MG

77.2

1star

D

7.5

2star

K

4.5

2star

HB

3.0

2star

M

2.5

3star

T

1.5

2star

MG

88.5

2star

D

7.0

2star

K

3.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.0

4star

MG

67.8

1star

and harry perryman

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Harry Perryman

Age

27

Ht

187cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.5

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

7.1

4star

M

4.5

4star

T

2.8

4star

MG

216.2

3star

D

18.5

4star

K

10.6

4star

HB

7.9

4star

M

4.5

4star

T

1.3

2star

MG

301.3

4star

D

9.8

3star

K

5.2

2star

HB

4.6

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.8

5star

MG

83.2

2star

who got contracts worth band 1

 

[Chase1ne]

Brisbane isn’t going to pay Allen that much—- because he’s not worth it. Why would the Lions, the reigning premiership side overpay for an injury prone spud.

Pretty simple really.

• They have the cap space.
• It only costs cap space to acquire him, so they can still get their academy kids in the draft.
• They have confidence they can get his body right as they have to done to others in the past.
• They're in a premiership window wanting to win as many as they can.
• They see a need for a good key forward to help them accomplish that.

 

[Senor M]

$1m twist in pursuit of Eagles skipper; young gun ‘almost too loyal’ as rival circles: Trade Whispers

In-demand gun ‘almost too loyal’ as rival circles; $1m twist in pursuit of Eagles star — Whispers

www.foxsports.com.au

6 x 800k is the spoken about offer.

Can’t imagine it takes much to go from that offer to band 1.

Did you read that article?

Buckley straight up said it would be irresponsible of the Lions to make a deal worth anywhere near that long or that much.

 

[Shueygod]

Did you read that article?

Buckley straight up said it would be irresponsible of the Lions to make a deal worth anywhere near that long or that much.

Which is a valid opinion to have, the fact he’s talking about it means it’s around what’s been offered.

Reckon the Lions list management team knows a bit more than Buckley.

 

[Monsterdarlz]

It’s well known Brisbane is offering a better contract and if west coast matched the Brisbane contract he’d stay. He quite literally is going to Brisbane for $.

I think it's the years 6 years means Brisbane can smooth out the deal if he's getting 900kba year that's a total 5.5mil verse a offer from wce even at 5 years would be 4-4.5 million bit of a difference there

 

[Senor M]

Which is a valid opinion to have, the fact he’s talking about it means it’s around what’s been offered.

Reckon the Lions list management team knows a bit more than Buckley.

In the space of less than an hour you’ve gone from using that article as “evidence” to support the claim, only to now trash it.

I’ll ask the question again—- did you actually read it? The $$ figure is based on a discussion of a Tier 1 compensation pick, not what the Lions have actually offered Allen.

 

[FootyLad0]

Did you read that article?

Buckley straight up said it would be irresponsible of the Lions to make a deal worth anywhere near that long or that much.

It’s take more to pry guys out then it is to keep them at your own club.

Lions have to pay up if they want him out or West Coast would just match and force a trade.

Don’t know why this is such a hard concept for people to get. It’s been done soo many times before.

 

[Senor M]

It’s take more to pry guys out then it is to keep them at your own club.

Lions have to pay up if they want him out or West Coast would just match and force a trade.

Don’t know why this is such a hard concept. It’s been done soo many times every year.

Did you read the article?

What I’m pointing out is that it doesn’t state the Lions possible contract figure, no matter how many times people claim that it does

 

[Shueygod]

In the space of less than an hour you’ve gone from using that article as “evidence” to support the claim, only to now trash it.

I’ll ask the question again—- did you actually read it? The $$ figure is based on a discussion of a Tier 1 compensation pick, not what the Lions have actually offered Allen.

How did I trash the article? The article is about Buckley discussing a rumoured offer to Allen.

I just said that the Lions list management team would have a better idea on Allen’s worth than Nathan Buckley who probably watches the eagles 3 times a year.

 

[Shueygod]

Tigers should’ve just pushed out that thug Balta if they wanted a juicy FA pick. Can’t complain about it now.

 

[THE_GUN]

$1m twist in pursuit of Eagles skipper; young gun ‘almost too loyal’ as rival circles: Trade Whispers

In-demand gun ‘almost too loyal’ as rival circles; $1m twist in pursuit of Eagles star — Whispers

www.foxsports.com.au

6 x 800k is the spoken about offer.

Can’t imagine it takes much to go from that offer to band 1.

Agree logically you would think the team would pay the extra but there are a few things that muddy the waters with the Allen scenario

* The 5/6 year contract is it a straight out no conditions contract ?
This would seem extremely risky for Brisbane with OA injury history

* The cap went up significantly last this season and the battle $800k band 1 was border line and was based on the 2024 cap
so you would imagine similar increase to qualify which brings it to $900k x 5 years

* Does OA actually want to leave if what you say is correct and the eagles offer is around $800k x 4
He may just take it and back himself to get another deal in 4 years time and stay captain and loyal
I think there is still abit to play out


Now getting back to your top 10 KPF in the league
Ben King
Max King
Mitch Georgiadis
Jeremy Cameron
Jesse Hogan
Riley Thilthorpe
Nick Larkey
Jack Gunston
Fritsch
Sam Darcy
Aaron Cadman
Charlie Curnow
Harry McKay
Josh Treacy
Logan Morris


I could probably name another 2-3 that i would rather have than Oscar Allen in the top 10

 

[Shueygod]

Agree logically you would think the team would pay the extra but there are a few things that muddy the waters with the Allen scenario

* The 5/6 year contract is it a straight out no conditions contract ?
This would seem extremely risky for Brisbane with OA injury history

* The cap went up significantly last this season and the battle $800k band 1 was border line and was based on the 2024 cap
so you would imagine similar increase to qualify which brings it to $900k x 5 years

* Does OA actually want to leave if what you say is correct and the eagles offer is around $800k x 4
He may just take it and back himself to get another deal in 4 years time and stay captain and loyal
I think there is still abit to play out


Now getting back to your top 10 KPF in the league
Ben King
Max King
Mitch Georgiadis
Jeremy Cameron
Jesse Hogan
Riley Thilthorpe
Nick Larkey
Jack Gunston
Fritsch
Sam Darcy
Aaron Cadman
Charlie Curnow
Harry McKay
Josh Treacy
Logan Morris


I could probably name another 2-3 that i would rather have than Oscar Allen in the top 10

From that list:
Fritsch isn’t a KPF
Gunston is 33
Cameron is 32

Has kicked more goals in a season than:
Treacy
Georgiades
M.King
Morris
Cadman
Darcy
Thilthorpe
Morris
Now I don’t believe Allen is a top 10 KPF in the league, but he’s shown to be a top 10 KPF in the league when injury free in 2023.

A few of those names (M.King, Cadman, Morris) haven’t done so.

At this point Allen leaving and eagles getting pick 2 is all but done, I think a couple of tigers fans are really desperate for that to not be the case.

 

[Elite Pete]

No one is really salty about West Coast receiving compo, they clearly need it. It's the AFL and the lack of transparency that we have the issue with. I also have issues with a system that will facilitate a team that could very much be back-to-back premiers taking the wooden spooners captain for nothing.

The whole afl draft and player movement is a rort and majority of teams have cashed in one way or another. AFL changing the rules to NGA a couple of months before the draft last year which pretty much handed the Bombers a free first round draft pick? Top teams getting some of the best kids in the draft through FS or Academy and then also rotting the system to turn that into extra picks.

Team crying about Brissy fitting in stars from other clubs, didn’t hear this when Hawks did it during their run and also Cats. It’s sold as players doing the right things

AFL is all a rort and a shit show and nearly every side has been on the right side of it at some stage. I glad the Eagles might finally get one (even though most teams would’ve paid band 1 for Oscar prior to the start of the year)

Suns got way overs for Rioli because they traded with a team that picks mean little.