List Mgmt. 2025 List Management Discussion

[Sproj]

How does Lloyd have a job in the media?

• Cameron went to us after Adelaide’s GF
• Bailey went to Geelong and Dunkley to us despite the Bulldogs regularly being there or thereabouts
• Cameron went to Geelong from GWS and they were on the rise
• We even lost McStay to Collingwood
• Schulz to Collingwood
• Houston to Collingwood despite Port making a deep finals run

But hey Geelong and Collingwood are Victorian so it’s ok when they do it.

 

[braddsey]

How does Lloyd have a job in the media?

• Cameron went to us after Adelaide’s GF
• Bailey went to Geelong and Dunkley to us despite the Bulldogs regularly being there or thereabouts
• Cameron went to Geelong from GWS and they were on the rise
• We even lost McStay to Collingwood
• Schulz to Collingwood
• Houston to Collingwood despite Port making a deep finals run

But hey Geelong and Collingwood are Victorian so it’s ok when they do it.

You can here what he said here:

Matthew Lloyd comments on Sam Draper's reported departure from Essendon - Drive with Jacqui Felgate

Essendon great Matthew Lloyd has commented on the news ruckman Sam Draper is reportedly set to leave the club for either Adelaide or Brisbane in 2026.

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He hardly mentions Brisbane, he’s actually giving a bit of a wack to poorly run or poorly performing clubs. Whoever the media team is made it all about Brisbane with the clickbait headline and image if the Essendon boys in Lions guerseys.

 

[Perrip]

Gettable:

• Brisbane should get a late 1st round or early 2nd round pick if Cal leaves, looking likely.
• Bailey: Essendon preparing a long term offer to lure him out of Brisbane this year. More likely to be setting him up to leave as a free agent next year, but Brisbane will be pushing to re-sign him this year.
• Starc: No decision yet, Twomey can't get a good read on if he's staying or going to west coast. Would've had a decision already if he wasn't out with concussion.
• Brisbane in the race for Connor Budarick
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  171.3

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  10.6

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  K

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  M

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  T

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  at Gold Coast. Might be a Starce replacement according to Beveridge
• Twomey & Beveridge confused how we get all of our off-season deals done.
• No Draper decision still.
• Brisbane has interest in Ridley. Any trade for him will need to be a player like Lohmann or Bailey.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Gettable:

• Brisbane should get a late 1st round or early 2nd round pick if Cal leaves, looking likely.
• Bailey: Essendon preparing a long term offer to lure him out of Brisbane this year. More likely to be setting him up to leave as a free agent next year, but Brisbane will be pushing to re-sign him this year.
• Starc: No decision yet, Twomey can't get a good read on if he's staying or going to west coast. Would've had a decision already if he wasn't out with concussion.
• Brisbane in the race for Connor Budarick at Gold Coast. Might be a Starce replacement according to Beveridge
• Twomey & Beveridge confused how we get all of our off-season deals done.
• No Draper decision still.
• Brisbane has interest in Ridley. Any trade for him will need to be a player like Lohmann or Bailey.

I think weve been keen on Budarick before. Would be a solid Starce replacement although we might just back Noah and our other smalls

 

[Nathan Barley]

Gettable:

• Brisbane should get a late 1st round or early 2nd round pick if Cal leaves, looking likely.
• Bailey: Essendon preparing a long term offer to lure him out of Brisbane this year. More likely to be setting him up to leave as a free agent next year, but Brisbane will be pushing to re-sign him this year.
• Starc: No decision yet, Twomey can't get a good read on if he's staying or going to west coast. Would've had a decision already if he wasn't out with concussion.
• Brisbane in the race for Connor Budarick at Gold Coast. Might be a Starce replacement according to Beveridge
• Twomey & Beveridge confused how we get all of our off-season deals done.
• No Draper decision still.
• Brisbane has interest in Ridley. Any trade for him will need to be a player like Lohmann or Bailey.

Wouldn't want to lose both Kai and Cal

 

[mpal6]

Wouldn't want to lose both Kai and Cal

if we retain Kai, we'll get Morris too.

 

[Tom14]

Gettable:

• Brisbane should get a late 1st round or early 2nd round pick if Cal leaves, looking likely.
• Bailey: Essendon preparing a long term offer to lure him out of Brisbane this year. More likely to be setting him up to leave as a free agent next year, but Brisbane will be pushing to re-sign him this year.
• Starc: No decision yet, Twomey can't get a good read on if he's staying or going to west coast. Would've had a decision already if he wasn't out with concussion.
• Brisbane in the race for Connor Budarick at Gold Coast. Might be a Starce replacement according to Beveridge
• Twomey & Beveridge confused how we get all of our off-season deals done.
• No Draper decision still.
• Brisbane has interest in Ridley. Any trade for him will need to be a player like Lohmann or Bailey.

Without having watched it that last dot point sounds like incredible Essendon fan cope from Twomey. Both players are worth far more than Ridley given his injury issues.

 

[Bucking Beads]

Gettable:

• Brisbane should get a late 1st round or early 2nd round pick if Cal leaves, looking likely.
• Bailey: Essendon preparing a long term offer to lure him out of Brisbane this year. More likely to be setting him up to leave as a free agent next year, but Brisbane will be pushing to re-sign him this year.
• Starc: No decision yet, Twomey can't get a good read on if he's staying or going to west coast. Would've had a decision already if he wasn't out with concussion.
• Brisbane in the race for Connor Budarick at Gold Coast. Might be a Starce replacement according to Beveridge
• Twomey & Beveridge confused how we get all of our off-season deals done.
• No Draper decision still.
• Brisbane has interest in Ridley. Any trade for him will need to be a player like Lohmann or Bailey.

If we were to send Bailey to them we would be taking a First round pick and Jordan Ridley.

 

[Tom14]

If we were to send Bailey to them we would be taking a First round pick and Jordan Ridley.

I don’t think there is any offer that would interest me in trading Bailey this year.

 

[Tom14]

I don’t think there is any offer that would interest me in trading Bailey this year.

The bombers keen on Bailey thing also sounds like a strategic leak to make bombers fans ignore the raging house fire at the hangar.

Jangling keys to people who have dodoro as their profile picture on bigfooty.

 

[Perrip]

Without having watched it that last dot point sounds like incredible Essendon fan cope from Twomey. Both players are worth far more than Ridley given his injury issues.

I think the thing he was referring to was Essendon not wanting to give Ridley up & that he's signed to 2029. Which means, if it happens, it has to be a player trade because we can't send good draft picks for Ridley without screwing our plans to get Annable. Lohmann & Bailey were just suggestions given, neither I can see leaving this year. It's also why i'm doubtful we get Ridley

 

[braddsey]

Gettable:

• Brisbane should get a late 1st round or early 2nd round pick if Cal leaves, looking likely.
• Bailey: Essendon preparing a long term offer to lure him out of Brisbane this year. More likely to be setting him up to leave as a free agent next year, but Brisbane will be pushing to re-sign him this year.
• Starc: No decision yet, Twomey can't get a good read on if he's staying or going to west coast. Would've had a decision already if he wasn't out with concussion.
• Brisbane in the race for Connor Budarick at Gold Coast. Might be a Starce replacement according to Beveridge
• Twomey & Beveridge confused how we get all of our off-season deals done.
• No Draper decision still.
• Brisbane has interest in Ridley. Any trade for him will need to be a player like Lohmann or Bailey.

Suggestion that we’d trade Bailey for Ridley is stupid. Bailey is a recently capped AA, game breaking, goal kicking point of difference. He’s got to be our biggest re-signing in the next 12-months. Bailey’s had one injury over his time. Ridley hasn’t been able to get on the park for the past couple of years. If Bailey’s looking for a long happy & healthy career, he’s not getting it at the hanger!
I suspect only a massive “offer you can’t refuse” will lure him out of Brisbane. Leave a premiership team with what looks like a long premiership window to go to a struggling Melbourne club… I don’t see it.
Those boys who have been there since the beginning of our build love playing together. Move somewhere else, footy becomes just another job.

 

[M Malice]

Gettable:

• Brisbane should get a late 1st round or early 2nd round pick if Cal leaves, looking likely.
• Bailey: Essendon preparing a long term offer to lure him out of Brisbane this year. More likely to be setting him up to leave as a free agent next year, but Brisbane will be pushing to re-sign him this year.
• Starc: No decision yet, Twomey can't get a good read on if he's staying or going to west coast. Would've had a decision already if he wasn't out with concussion.
• Brisbane in the race for Connor Budarick at Gold Coast. Might be a Starce replacement according to Beveridge
• Twomey & Beveridge confused how we get all of our off-season deals done.
• No Draper decision still.
• Brisbane has interest in Ridley. Any trade for him will need to be a player like Lohmann or Bailey.

It would have to be a massive dollars offer to get Zac or Kai to even consider going to the rabble that is the Bombers.

I like Budarick, more an Answerth type than a Starcevich replacement though IMO.

Ridley would be a fantastic get but can not see how it gets done.

 

[mpal6]

I don’t think there is any offer that would interest me in trading Bailey this year.

Exactly. Bailey is way too valuable for us next year, if he has another good year it could be the difference between us making a deep finals run or sliding down the ladder. Whatever happens in terms of re-signing him after 2026 should not be confused with retaining him for next year in our list.

 

[braddsey]

I think the thing he was referring to was Essendon not wanting to give Ridley up & that he's signed to 2029. Which means, if it happens, it has to be a player trade because we can't send good draft picks for Ridley without screwing our plans to get Annable.

Then I’m for passing up the opportunity. The club success has been built on not trading out our core players.

The only best-22 player i can think of running around in another guernsey is McStay who left as a FA.

 

[M Malice]

I don’t think there is any offer that would interest me in trading Bailey this year.

Yes, Riley Thilthorpe and I'd consider it.

 

[Tom14]

I think the thing he was referring to was Essendon not wanting to give Ridley up & that he's signed to 2029. Which means, if it happens, it has to be a player trade because we can't send good draft picks for Ridley without screwing our plans to get Annable. Lohmann & Bailey were just suggestions given, neither I can see leaving this year. It's also why i'm doubtful we get Ridley

Yeah I get that. But he’s smart enough to know that ambit claim demands for players basically never come true - players generally don’t leave good teams to go to rabble. It’s fundamentally not worth reporting on - can just say you can’t see how Ridley trade gets done imo.

Tom Boyd one of the only times I can recall an opposing club getting to work in a trade period to force someone to be included in the deal?

 

[Bucking Beads]

I don’t think there is any offer that would interest me in trading Bailey this year.

I don't disagree mate. We need to try and keep him that is for sure.

 

[Tom14]

Suggestion that we’d trade Bailey for Ridley is stupid. Bailey is a recently capped AA, game breaking, goal kicking point of difference. He’s got to be our biggest re-signing in the next 12-months. Bailey’s had one injury over his time. Ridley hasn’t been able to get on the park for the past couple of years. If Bailey’s looking for a long happy & healthy career, he’s not getting it at the hanger!
I suspect only a massive “offer you can’t refuse” will lure him out of Brisbane. Leave a premiership team with what looks like a long premiership window to go to a struggling Melbourne club… I don’t see it.
Those boys who have been there since the beginning of our build love playing together. Move somewhere else, footy becomes just another job.

Zac can get a massive offer he can’t refuse from lots of teams too, why go to Essendon this year when their captain wants out?

Both Adelaide clubs will have money to spend with NAS staying at st kilda.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Without having watched it that last dot point sounds like incredible Essendon fan cope from Twomey. Both players are worth far more than Ridley given his injury issues.

It was the other giggly boy that mentioned Bailey but Cal discussed how Essendon have been keen on Kai for a while

 

[Nathan Barley]

Would we trade Zac for pick before Annable if we didn't think we could keep him beyond next year?

 

[braddsey]

Would we trade Zac for pick before Annable if we didn't think we could keep him beyond next year?

I don’t think i would. Bailey can 100% help us win another flag next year. Unlikely whoever we could draft will do that. Have to grab the flags when you’re in the window. We’re pretty flush for young talent already - so not like we’re ruining the future if we don’t do it and lose Bailey as an FA next year anyway (as shit as that would be).

 

[M Malice]

Would we trade Zac for pick before Annable if we didn't think we could keep him beyond next year?

Only IF Zac got an offer too good to refuse and decided he wanted out.

Annable is a likely top 5 bid so to get a pick in before the bid it would have to be one of the Eagles pick 1 or 2 selections.

 

[Pns_blister]

Gettable:

• Brisbane should get a late 1st round or early 2nd round pick if Cal leaves, looking likely.
• Bailey: Essendon preparing a long term offer to lure him out of Brisbane this year. More likely to be setting him up to leave as a free agent next year, but Brisbane will be pushing to re-sign him this year.
• Starc: No decision yet, Twomey can't get a good read on if he's staying or going to west coast. Would've had a decision already if he wasn't out with concussion.
• Brisbane in the race for Connor Budarick at Gold Coast. Might be a Starce replacement according to Beveridge
• Twomey & Beveridge confused how we get all of our off-season deals done.
• No Draper decision still.
• Brisbane has interest in Ridley. Any trade for him will need to be a player like Lohmann or Bailey.

1.3 mil $$$$ x 6 years for Bailey is what he said. You’re asking for picks 5 & 6 off them if it was to happen this year.

 

[Nathan Barley]

1.3 mil $$$$ x 6 years for Bailey is what he said. You’re asking for picks 5 & 6 off them if it was to happen this year.

I think they'd take it. Definitely need some good news