List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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Harley Reid extends to 2028

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List Changes - 2025

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• Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle
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  Jack Petruccelle

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  83kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.2

  2star

  K

  6.2

  2star

  HB

  3.0

  3star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  D

  6.7

  1star

  K

  4.0

  1star

  HB

  2.7

  2star

  M

  1.7

  2star

  T

  1.3

  2star

  G

  0.7

  4star

  D

  7.8

  2star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  3.2

  3star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  1.6

  4star

  G

  0.6

  3star

  , Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
• Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
• List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Key Offseason Dates

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Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft

 

[pantskyle]

As Ryan Daniels has said, the Lions have offered him a 5 year deal, something you don't offer if your worried about concussion issues.

May be wrong as well but didn't Brisbane or someone linked to them said the concussion issues aren't even true?

 

[Aarick13]

Would steer clear of Brandon Starcevich. Would hate to see us pay overs for a sold defender only to see him retire due to concussion protocols as he's had a few. We have plenty of medium defenders, but desperately need positions like ruck, small forwards and wingers filled.

If we gave him a 5 year front loaded deal then even if he had to retire from concussion mid next year we would get 90% salary cap relief in 2027 then as the % of cap relief gets lower so does his salary so it wouldn't be too big of a burden for us.

 

[ballsohard]

Oof, a bit of talent going out of a 1 win historically awful team:

• McGovern
• Allen
• Ryan ️
• Sheed ️
• Chesser️ ️

Huge draft and trade period to keep us from being even shitter next season

Sheed & Chesser (as well as Allen to an extent) had no impact on our season what so ever.
McGovern & Ryan are the real losses, hopefully a healthy Waterman & Yeo can make up for them.
I still have hope that next year yields much better results than this year with another preseason into our young side.

 

[Elite Pete]

Oof, a bit of talent going out of a 1 win historically awful team:

• McGovern
• Allen
• Ryan ️
• Sheed ️
• Chesser️ ️

Huge draft and trade period to keep us from being even shitter next season

Not really. Only one of them really played a big chunk of the season. With Waterman and Yeo likely back and progression of with having a young list. Hopefully in huge leaps

 

[Elite Pete]

May be wrong as well but didn't Brisbane or someone linked to them said the concussion issues aren't even true?

Ryan Daniels said it when he linked us to him. Said he’s really only had one concussion. Straight from the managers script he would’ve gave Rhino to get his price up.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

With .. Yeo likely back

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Oof, a bit of talent going out of a 1 win historically awful team:

• McGovern
• Allen
• Ryan ️
• Sheed ️
• Chesser️ ️

Huge draft and trade period to keep us from being even shitter next season

No sure if losing these players will have such a negative impact in 2026 as you think. Liam who cam 7th in the B&F was the only one in this list that stood up in 2025.

AFL games played in 2025

Gov - 6
Oscar - 12 (and 12 goals)
Liam - 20 (and 22 goals)
Dom - 0
Chesser - 4

Their absence was a major part why we only won 1 game. Let's face facts, Oscar was crap for most of his 12 games. Liam was the only player in your list that actually gave anything of substance in 2025.

I actually think we will be bottom 2 or 3 but be much closer in contests and up to 6 wins. Big question for me is what will Yeo be able to do in 2026.

Our young group will have another year of development and the game plan will be even better cemented and followed.

 

[thebutterflyeffect]

No sure if losing these players will have such a negative impact in 2026 as you think. Liam who cam 7th in the B&F was the only one in this list that stood up in 2025.

AFL games played in 2025

Gov - 6
Oscar - 12 (and 12 goals)
Liam - 20 (and 22 goals)
Dom - 0
Chesser - 4

Their absence was a major part why we only won 1 game. Let's face facts, Oscar was crap for most of his 12 games. Liam was the only player in your list that actually gave anything of substance in 2025.

I actually think we will be bottom 2 or 3 but be much closer in contests and up to 6 wins. Big question for me is what will Yeo be able to do in 2026.

Our young group will have another year of development and the game plan will be even better cemented and followed.

All sounds good but my general assumption is anything we get from Yeo is a bonus. When we factor in next year it's best to assume we get little to none from him because we've got enough of a sample size to assume him being fit and available is the outlier.

 

[Dark Sharks]

Even though I think he's a dud and his career will be over after this next contract from Carlton finishes...

Chesser is a pink booted spray tan little flog. Imagine walking out on the club right now after all the times they've backed him in and given him priority to develop in the senior side.

Such a burnt selection from that draft. Hope the club plays hard ball and salvages something from wasting pick 13.

 

[Pottering]

No sure if losing these players will have such a negative impact in 2026 as you think. Liam who cam 7th in the B&F was the only one in this list that stood up in 2025.

AFL games played in 2025

Gov - 6
Oscar - 12 (and 12 goals)
Liam - 20 (and 22 goals)
Dom - 0
Chesser - 4

Their absence was a major part why we only won 1 game. Let's face facts, Oscar was crap for most of his 12 games. Liam was the only player in your list that actually gave anything of substance in 2025.

I actually think we will be bottom 2 or 3 but be much closer in contests and up to 6 wins. Big question for me is what will Yeo be able to do in 2026.

Our young group will have another year of development and the game plan will be even better cemented and followed.

How did Chesser get on that list and Waterman didn't? The others have resumes that show they are very good when at their best. Chesser's done nothing yet to show he'll make it.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

If you think the Dons will be trading up, I cannot see them doing it for pick 2. Reading the tea leaves, Duursma is the only prospect likely to generate the picks worthy of trading back from 1. I can see the Dons and even Tigers wanting him and having picks worthy of sliding.

If posters want the 2 Drug Rats R1 picks, I believe it will only be on offer for Duursma and not CTD.

IF that deal is done, it might be enough to off 1 and the Hawks R2 and R3 for 5 and 6. Dons need points for their 2 NGA prospects.

The situation would change if they get band 1 compo for Draper. That would leave them with 5 6 and 7. In that scenario, I would be tempted to push for 5 6 7 and their F1 for 1 and 2. Not likely to be a popular view but so be it.

At 5 6 and 7, I'd expect Dons take Duursma and CDT at 1 and 2. Tigers take Cumming and Lindsay. Leaving us with Sharp, Schubert and ??? We get in Sharp a blue collar inside mid we really need. In Schubert we get him as the Gov replacement until Waterman retires and then we shift him forward. I' d look at March, Grlj or Greeves as 7 with the Hawks R1 being for Barker of Phillipou.

Importantly in 2026, we have a top 3 pick and a top 6 - 10 pick which hopefully has better rules for not matching.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

How did Chesser get on that list and Waterman didn't? The others have resumes that show they are very good when at their best. Chesser's done nothing yet to show he'll make it.

Because Waterman’s not leaving and all the others are?

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

How did Chesser get on that list and Waterman didn't? The others have resumes that show they are very good when at their best. Chesser's done nothing yet to show he'll make it.

Because Waterman is not leaving. This list was put up of the players retiring or leaving the club.

 

[Scotland]

Pretty disappointing that Chesser wants to leave now. Injured for a year, didn't really do much for two, then injured most of this year and played probably his best 4 games and now he wants out.

Once Chesser goes we will have Liam Duggan

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Liam Duggan

Age

29

Ht

186cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.4

4star

K

10.1

4star

HB

5.3

4star

M

4.4

4star

T

2.1

4star

MG

283.7

4star

D

16.0

4star

K

12.0

5star

HB

4.0

3star

M

5.7

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

283.7

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.2

3star

to show from over a decade of first round picks. Yes there aren't many players left in the comp from 2010 and earlier but we have:

2010: Gaff (ret), Darling (North)
2011: Newman, McInnes (del x 2)
2012: traded for Welling-HAM (L)
2013: Sheed (ret)
2014: Duggan
2015: traded for Redden (W)
2016: Venables (ret concussion)
2017: Brander (del)
2018: traded for 2017 picks (W)
2019: traded for TK (D)
2020: traded for TK (D)
2021: Chesser

Boo-urns.

 

[Mop]

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1415896

As per the article

WEST Coast has formalised its bid for a list assistance package from the AFL, with the Eagles' case for help including requests for an end-of-first round pick and draft selection that must be traded.

The Eagles waited until their season finished before making their application for list concessions but have since had talks with the League on their proposal.


Included in the options put forward by the Eagles are access to more rookie list spots, with the club having ties to multiple Next Generation Academy and father-son prospects at this year's draft, as well as an extra selection at the end of the first round and another selection that comes with the caveat that it must be traded.

The Eagles have also put forward their hope to not have their Oscar Allen free agency compensation pick – expected to be No.2 – diluted if they bring in a free agent this year.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Pretty disappointing that Chesser wants to leave now. Injured for a year, didn't really do much for two, then injured most of this year and played probably his best 4 games and now he wants out.

Once Chesser goes we will have Liam Duggan to show from over a decade of first round picks. Yes there aren't many players left in the comp from 2010 and earlier but we have:

2010: Gaff (ret), Darling (North)
2011: Newman, McInnes (del x 2)
2012: traded for Welling-HAM (L)
2013: Sheed (ret)
2014: Duggan
2015: traded for Redden (W)
2016: Venables (ret concussion)
2017: Brander (del)
2018: traded for 2017 picks (W)
2019: traded for TK (D)
2020: traded for TK (D)
2021: Chesser

Boo-urns.

 

[Scotland]

group hug

 

[Obeanie1]

Graham certainly wasn't a midfield at Richmond. Sure he would roll through their when they had injuries but he was tried and failed to be a mid .

So he was a full time mid this year for under 20 disposals and 3.5 clearances a game .

People predicted this when we drafted Graham that he wasn't an actual mid and never will be . He is a poor tagger that's about his midfield craft.

So question for you where does Graham play when we have actual midfielders ?

Graham left Richmond to get more midfield minutes.

He played a HHF at the Tigers in the flag era because other mids were better than him, but he did rotate through there.

At rhe Eagles he doesnt have the same competition and is playing more......midfield.

When we have an actual midfield Graham either plays HHF again or retires or plays WAfL. And that will take several years to buiod.

All quite logical really.

 

[Wce17]

2 to Essendon for 5 & 22

Ryan for Geelongs 1st via Marshall trade.

Chesser for 34 from Carlton.

Leaves us with 1 & 5 to take players

We also then have lots of pieces to grab for example Suns picks 8 & 12 (GEE first, WCE 2R, 22, Hawks 2R, 34, Hawks R3). Should give them the extra points they needs and the WCE 2R being the first pick of round 2 will most likely be split by them again maybe for future picks.

Leaves us with 5 first round picks 1, 5, 8, 12 & 15 (Hawks First)

 

[Scotland]

Glad they got the McGovern, Vardy, Ryan, Sheed re-enactment out of the way.

 

[Obeanie1]

fanciful thinking that Neale would come to us so late in his career, unless he has coaching aspirations

So its fanciful.....unless he wants to earn more money in the AFL system as a player 》 coach.

Which isnt fanciful at all.

 

[SumaGodCoach]

If you think the Dons will be trading up, I cannot see them doing it for pick 2. Reading the tea leaves, Duursma is the only prospect likely to generate the picks worthy of trading back from 1. I can see the Dons and even Tigers wanting him and having picks worthy of sliding.

If posters want the 2 Drug Rats R1 picks, I believe it will only be on offer for Duursma and not CTD.

IF that deal is done, it might be enough to off 1 and the Hawks R2 and R3 for 5 and 6. Dons need points for their 2 NGA prospects.

The situation would change if they get band 1 compo for Draper. That would leave them with 5 6 and 7. In that scenario, I would be tempted to push for 5 6 7 and their F1 for 1 and 2. Not likely to be a popular view but so be it.

At 5 6 and 7, I'd expect Dons take Duursma and CDT at 1 and 2. Tigers take Cumming and Lindsay. Leaving us with Sharp, Schubert and ??? We get in Sharp a blue collar inside mid we really need. In Schubert we get him as the Gov replacement until Waterman retires and then we shift him forward. I' d look at March, Grlj or Greeves as 7 with the Hawks R1 being for Barker of Phillipou.

Importantly in 2026, we have a top 3 pick and a top 6 - 10 pick which hopefully has better rules for not matching.

Putting on my Essendon hat(which diseases do I now have?), there is no way that I would include the F1 in the deal. If I were Essendon, I'd offer 5, 6, 7, 26 and 29 to WCE for 1, 2, 33 and 51 as part of larger 3 way deal with GC. I am assuming we can pre-list our NGA's but who knows.

Then WCE flicks 23, 26 and 29 to GC for 8 leaving WCE with 5, 6, 7, 8 and 15. Both Essendon and WCE are in cahoots that no bid is made on GC's players at 1 or 2. Essendon retains 2 later picks to match bids on their NGA's.

Who says no?

 

[Simon Whitlock]

Even though I think he's a dud and his career will be over after this next contract from Carlton finishes...

Chesser is a pink booted spray tan little flog. Imagine walking out on the club right now after all the times they've backed him in and given him priority to develop in the senior side.

Such a burnt selection from that draft. Hope the club plays hard ball and salvages something from wasting pick 13.

Only saving grace being that the other contenders around the Chesser pick we were looking at (Hobbs, Sinn, Johnson) not reached any great heights. Thank god Nasiah was off the board the pick before ours....

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

Even though I think he's a dud and his career will be over after this next contract from Carlton finishes...

Chesser is a pink booted spray tan little flog. Imagine walking out on the club right now after all the times they've backed him in and given him priority to develop in the senior side.

Such a burnt selection from that draft. Hope the club plays hard ball and salvages something from wasting pick 13.

The club has been wasting picks, getting nothing from perma-injured mature players and rolling over during trade week for years.

When is the change coming? Where is the urgency?

Just calmly being bad as a club across the board, its quite remarkable. No implosion, no series of 3 Stooges-esque self saboutage, just happily and methodically being shit.

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

We might be being a bit harsh on the list management and recruiting team. It would not be easy convincing somebody to move across the country to the wooden spoon club. Especially if they are not from WA to start with. And especially since the trend in the competition is for player traffic to seek to go from bottom clubs to top clubs, even if it means less money.

They deserve criticism for how they handled last trade period. That definately dented my confidence in them. But i don't blame them for struggling to pull a rabbit out of the hat with attracting high end players wanting to come here.