List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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Harley Reid extends to 2028

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List Changes - 2025

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• Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle
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  Jack Petruccelle

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  83kg

  Pos.

  Fwd

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.2

  2star

  K

  6.2

  2star

  HB

  3.0

  3star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  D

  6.7

  1star

  K

  4.0

  1star

  HB

  2.7

  2star

  M

  1.7

  2star

  T

  1.3

  2star

  G

  0.7

  4star

  D

  7.8

  2star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  3.2

  3star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  1.6

  4star

  G

  0.6

  3star

  , Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
• Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
• List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Key Offseason Dates

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Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft

 

[rebel23]

Again, I'm happy to pay overs. Didn't say I wasn't.

Rather dev Robertson than Butler

 

[shooshka]

If Merrett leaves and Essendon end up with potentially five 1st rounders, we can expect a compelling offer for pick 1.
The Dons cannot let Merrett go without having Pick 1 to sell to fans.

We will take picks 7, 8, 11 for pick 1.

(I expect picks 4, 5, 8 to slide to 7, 8, 11 due to Uwland, Annable, Patterson academy bids).

We get a haul of top end talent, Dons get Duursma and the redemption story for long suffering fans.

I think we are better looking to move pick 2 (for a lower price) to a team who wants CDT rather than pick 1 unless Duursma is an insane flight risk.

Good footballer, good athlete, looks suited to outside mid (initially for sure) maybe move to hybrid or inside. Absolute position/s of need for us.

Just feels similar to the HR situation (without the same ceiling), why should we give up the best player in the draft?

 

[Elite Pete]

Bit of a loose connection with Sam Butler. He is brother of Dan Butler (Saints) who is good friends with Graham and Baker. Dan was in our rooms post Marvel game.

You’d think they would be playing a bit of a recruitment part.

Don’t know much about Sam’s footy but Hawks fans seem very keen to want to keep him. Most think he plays his best footy as a mid. He’d get his chance at the Eagles.

If we can flip Chesser for Butler who were both from the same draft it appears it could be break even.

 

[Barrybran]

I just don't rate Sam Butler as someone that should be getting anywhere near that. Don't think you could guarantee he's best 22 next year or the year after. Have no issue paying if someone is worth it.

The only question you need to ask is "is he better than Owies?"

 

[Happy Mastenator]

I think we are better looking to move pick 2 (for a lower price) to a team who wants CDT rather than pick 1 unless Duursma is an insane flight risk.

Good footballer, good athlete, looks suited to outside mid (initially for sure) maybe move to hybrid or inside. Absolute position/s of need for us.

Just feels similar to the HR situation (without the same ceiling), why should we give up the best player in the draft?

Agreed. Have to think Tigers take CDT if he's available, so who wants to jump up and get him?

Essendon will need a potential ruck, Carlton would be keen as well given TDK just left.

Duursma, then sliding back a bit to still get Sharp or Cummings seems ideal. Hell I'd swap 2 with 3 for Tigers f2 if Tigers wanted to stop us trading pick 2 and CDT to someone else who could jump over them.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

The only question you need to ask is "is he better than Owies?"

By that logic they may as well draft me.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

The only question you need to ask is "is he better than Owies?"

They play different positions......

 

[CountryLad]

If Merrett leaves and Essendon end up with potentially five 1st rounders, we can expect a compelling offer for pick 1.
The Dons cannot let Merrett go without having Pick 1 to sell to fans.

We will take picks 7, 8, 11 for pick 1.

(I expect picks 4, 5, 8 to slide to 7, 8, 11 due to Uwland, Annable, Patterson academy bids).

We get a haul of top end talent, Dons get Duursma and the redemption story for long suffering fans.

We couldn’t even get a haul like that when Harley had clubs queuing up for him.

Pick one for what will actually be 5,6 & 9 prior to the draft is never going to happen even for Peter Pan in Never Never land.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Bit of a loose connection with Sam Butler. He is brother of Dan Butler (Saints) who is good friends with Graham and Baker. Dan was in our rooms post Marvel game.

You’d think they would be playing a bit of a recruitment part.

Don’t know much about Sam’s footy but Hawks fans seem very keen to want to keep him. Most think he plays his best footy as a mid. He’d get his chance at the Eagles.

If we can flip Chesser for Butler who were both from the same draft it appears it could be break even.

Given Mitchell's antics, if we can convince Butler to come, why would we give them anything?

 

[archiemoses]

Ummmm you're calling Dom Sheed a clearance specialist and tackling machine?

Well that's definitely a new take i've near heard before.

Pretty sure that was close to his profile U18s

 

[Elite Pete]

Given Mitchell's antics, if we can convince Butler to come, why would we give them anything?

It should be PSD but it won’t. Clubs, players, player managers just don’t work that way.

Coaches sit down with players all the time. Mini would be right now trying to get in front of any players connected to us, Contracted or not.

Why is Mitchell or the players he is meeting with letting this get out? Are players using The Hawks? im not sure. Oscar didn’t go there and by the sounds of it was set on the Lions from the start.

 

[Barrybran]

We couldn’t even get a haul like that when Harley had clubs queuing up for him.

Pick one for what will actually be 5,6 & 9 prior to the draft is never going to happen even for Peter Pan in Never Never land.

5 & 6 on their own works once those picks slide to 7 & 8. I still don't see Essendon giving up those picks for 1 straight up though.

 

[Goroyals22]

This is also how we piss off other players when you bring in someone that's no guarantee to be in our best 22 and give them $600-$700k on the basis of very little. Everyone starts looking around going WTF.

Easy answer to that. If you were a semi decent afl player we wouldn't need to bring in players from outside the club to play a role and the money they are getting could go to you.

 

[WCE777]

I think WC are looking to replace Chesser with a similar age and profile player.
S Butler & J Tunstill while different players probably reflect our list decisions to not keep drafting 18yo kids and balancing more mid age range players with upside.

Butler has been cruelled by injury, similar to Chesser and same age who is very quick and can hit the scoreboard as well as play through the midfield, probably high upside but has the risk of injuries for the past 18mths.

Tunstill is more a balanced mid who has been playing an outside more HF role at BRI and could have some great upside also after being not given much opportunity in the BRI mid/hf role as they have outstanding talent. Tunstill would be available for probably a late pick if he is retained or as a SSP if delisted.

Would be a great addition to our beagles if we don't add him to our list and expect Tunstill and Dev would be given every opportunity to add to the beagles with the expectation that they may get a list spot if one becomes available or they improve.
List management team will sort out which is better suited to us.

I also don't share the pessimism that we will not get much in the trade period, I think majority of our mature targets are still involved in finals.
Starcevich, Ah Chee, Flanders, McVee waiting on who is new coach seems he is almost out the door.
While Starcevich, Ah Chee will provide best 22 players and leadership its the midfield that needs help and this is where Flanders is perfect and would be a player I would pay overs for.

Windhager will stay, Davies is most likely staying.

 

[CountryLad]

5 & 6 on their own works once those picks slide to 7 & 8. I still don't see Essendon giving up those picks for 1 straight up though.

I could see a three way deal between the Eagles, Bombers and Suns working.

Bombers
get: pick 1
Give: 5, 22 & 25

Eagles
Get: pick 5 & 6
Give: Pick 1 & 31

Suns
Give: pick 6
Get: Pick 22, 25 & 31 to Suns for 1705
points.

No bids from Bombers or Eagles on academy kids. Suns can do another deal with the Tigers to get there kids through to pick 8 before a bid is made.

 

[bzparkes]

I could see a three way deal between the Eagles, Bombers and Suns working.

Bombers
get: pick 1
Give: 5, 22 & 25

Eagles
Get: pick 5 & 6
Give: Pick 1 & 31

Suns
Give: pick 6
Get: Pick 22, 25 & 31 to Suns for 1705
points.

No bids from Bombers or Eagles on academy kids. Suns can do another deal with the Tigers to get there kids through to pick 8 before a bid is made.

 

[WCE_Phill]

I could see a three way deal between the Eagles, Bombers and Suns working.

Bombers
get: pick 1
Give: 5, 22 & 25

Eagles
Get: pick 5 & 6
Give: Pick 1 & 31

Suns
Give: pick 6
Get: Pick 22, 25 & 31 to Suns for 1705
points.

No bids from Bombers or Eagles on academy kids. Suns can do another deal with the Tigers to get there kids through to pick 8 before a bid is made.

That's actually pretty good, to go to draft with 2, 5*, 6*, 13* and 19*

Depending who we bought in, we could shift 13* and 19* to 2026

 

[JoshWoodenSpoon]

Pretty unconvinced by Robey. Granted, there are tantalising attributes there and maybe with fantastic development he'll be amazing, but has some pretty uninspiring aspects to his game also. Suppose the freshness to decent level midfield time is in his favour and can't argue that he hasn't given a good go of it.

 

[CountryLad]

That's actually pretty good, to go to draft with 2, 5*, 6*, 13* and 19*

Depending who we bought in, we could shift 13* and 19* to 2026

It’s pretty fair for all clubs.

The best part would be on draft night watching the Saints at pick 8 rage on the academy kids and possibly the blues F/S.
Could see 5 bids being made to make a strong point to AFL house. Saints pick 8 blows out to pick 13…..

 

[Off Tap]

Making definitive declarative statements like that just set you up to look foolish. GAJ went to the Suns.

GAJ was an outlier and the comparison can't be made. Suns were the new side trying to make a statement.

From memory GAJ contract was $2m a season. In today's money that's at least $4m. Are we going to pay somebody around $4m per year?

No.

We're at the bottom with another poor 2026 to come. Facts show that the players already mentioned don't go the wooden spooners.

 

[ziad]

That's actually pretty good, to go to draft with 2, 5*, 6*, 13* and 19*

Depending who we bought in, we could shift 13* and 19* to 2026

We will never rebuild in a season (i assume) so strong 2026 picks are attractive.

 

[Jeremy McLovin]

PSD really should be an option for Butler. Given that the two instances this year of captains meeting with oppo coaches and having it leaked immediately have both involved Mitchell it's an easy assumption that the hawks are the ones doing the leaking. Scott was ****ing pissed about it on 360. I think that there's more than a few gentleman's agreements in afl, with not using the psd being one of them. Then in comes Mitchell, willing to 'break the rules' and do what it takes to improve his team. There's gonna be backlash - other teams being more brutal in their dealings with the hawks is an obvious consequence.

 

[WCE777]

Its happening!!
J Ridley meets with BRI in the hope to facilitate a trade?
If this gets over the line we are definitely contributing picks and salary relief to make it happen with Ah Chee, Starcevich & Neale all to WC for AFL assistance pick 19,
BRI will need plenty for Annable, top 5 pick, H Bridge(40), T Prindable(40-50).
BRI have 1660 draft points and will probably need a few later draft points and picks to match all 3.
They will also need some draft collateral to make a trade for Ridley, what is he worth?
Still contracted until 2029 so will need plenty of trade capital, but he has been hampered by injured for last 2 years.
Is he worth a couple of early second round picks?
BRI 1st plus another for a contracted player with 4 years on the contract, Barrass was a 1st, 2nd, 3rd round as a comparison.
Ridley BRI 1st wipes off 800 draft points for their Annable bid and couple of others so they will need at least another 800+ points to facilitate enough points and a trade.
WC compensation pick 19, WC 2nd round pick 23, Hawks 2nd, for Ah Chee, Starcevich and Neale??

 

[ziad]

PSD really should be an option for Butler. Given that the two instances this year of captains meeting with oppo coaches and having it leaked immediately have both involved Mitchell it's an easy assumption that the hawks are the ones doing the leaking. Scott was ****ing pissed about it on 360. I think that there's more than a few gentleman's agreements in afl, with not using the psd being one of them. Then in comes Mitchell, willing to 'break the rules' and do what it takes to improve his team. There's gonna be backlash - other teams being more brutal in their dealings with the hawks is an obvious consequence.

Excellent

 

[Jootube]

We couldn’t even get a haul like that when Harley had clubs queuing up for him.

Pick one for what will actually be 5,6 & 9 prior to the draft is never going to happen even for Peter Pan in Never Never land.

Then we dont trade pick 1. My point is, in a sellers market you don't sell for market value - you sell for a premium.

The bombers will have the premium if Zach leaves, we should only accept a clear premium.

I am not suggesting the trade is fair or likely.