List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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Harley Reid extends to 2028

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List Changes - 2025

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• Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle
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  Jack Petruccelle

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  83kg

  Pos.

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  Career

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  9.2

  2star

  K

  6.2

  2star

  HB

  3.0

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  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  G

  1.0

  4star

  D

  6.7

  1star

  K

  4.0

  1star

  HB

  2.7

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  M

  1.7

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  T

  1.3

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  G

  0.7

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  D

  7.8

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  K

  4.6

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  HB

  3.2

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  M

  2.8

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  T

  1.6

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  G

  0.6

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  , Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
• Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
• List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Key Offseason Dates

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Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft

 

[Jootube]

I could see a three way deal between the Eagles, Bombers and Suns working.

Bombers
get: pick 1
Give: 5, 22 & 25

Eagles
Get: pick 5 & 6
Give: Pick 1 & 31

Suns
Give: pick 6
Get: Pick 22, 25 & 31 to Suns for 1705
points.

No bids from Bombers or Eagles on academy kids. Suns can do another deal with the Tigers to get there kids through to pick 8 before a bid is made.

No.

Pick 1 stays as pick 1, and picks 5 and 6 likely turn into picks 8 and 9.

Absolutely not.

 

[bzparkes]

Its happening!!
J Ridley meets with BRI in the hope to facilitate a trade?
If this gets over the line we are definitely contributing picks and salary relief to make it happen with Ah Chee, Starcevich & Neale all to WC for AFL assistance pick 19,
BRI will need plenty for Annable, top 5 pick, H Bridge(40), T Prindable(40-50).
BRI have 1660 draft points and will probably need a few later draft points and picks to match all 3.
They will also need some draft collateral to make a trade for Ridley, what is he worth?
Still contracted until 2029 so will need plenty of trade capital, but he has been hampered by injured for last 2 years.
Is he worth a couple of early second round picks?
BRI 1st plus another for a contracted player with 4 years on the contract, Barrass was a 1st, 2nd, 3rd round as a comparison.
Ridley BRI 1st wipes off 800 draft points for their Annable bid and couple of others so they will need at least another 800+ points to facilitate enough points and a trade.
WC compensation pick 19, WC 2nd round pick 23, Hawks 2nd, for Ah Chee, Starcevich and Neale??

Ah Chee's got a decent offer from Adelaide, according to Twomey yesterday, and he somewhat expects him to go there.

 

[CountryLad]

Then we dont trade pick 1. My point is, in a sellers market you don't sell for market value - you sell for a premium.

The bombers will have the premium if Zach leaves, we should only accept a clear premium.

I am not suggesting the trade is fair or likely.

They aren’t going to split because they want to win trade week. Splitting for that kind of premium you mentioned will never happen.

You sell if it’s in your interest or need. It’s no secret that we need more top end talent than we have on the list.

That’s what the media’s point was in the Harley debate. Split for more high end talent than just taking one kid. The club decided on Harley.

Maybe this year they will decide on splitting to bring in more talent. Maybe they really like the number one prospect and keep it, time will tell.

 

[Barrybran]

I could see a three way deal between the Eagles, Bombers and Suns working.

Bombers
get: pick 1
Give: 5, 22 & 25

Eagles
Get: pick 5 & 6
Give: Pick 1 & 31

Suns
Give: pick 6
Get: Pick 22, 25 & 31 to Suns for 1705
points.

No bids from Bombers or Eagles on academy kids. Suns can do another deal with the Tigers to get there kids through to pick 8 before a bid is made.

That's what I'm expecting as well. It's a pretty easy way for us to generate those extra picks and Essendon to get pick 1 without either club having to do the heavy lifting.

 

[CountryLad]

No.

Pick 1 stays as pick 1, and picks 5 and 6 likely turn into picks 8 and 9.

Absolutely not.

It’s still pick 5 & 6 those other players aren’t in the open draft. Just forget about them.

 

[Chris_6678]

Whatever we get for Chesser will be enough to get Butler one would think.

 

[Jootube]

It’s still pick 5 & 6 those other players aren’t in the open draft. Just forget about them.

I really get frustrated at this faulty logic.

It's been proven wrong time and time again.

Think of draft picks as the right to pick the nTH best player in the draft. Picks 5 & 6 give us the rights to the 8th and 9th best players in the draft.

If you disagree you literally don't understand the concept, sorry.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

It’s still pick 5 & 6 those other players aren’t in the open draft. Just forget about them.

No, **** that, it's a compromised draft and we'll miss out on the talent that should be available to us if those picks didn't slide back.

 

[Barrybran]

No.

Pick 1 stays as pick 1, and picks 5 and 6 likely turn into picks 8 and 9.

Absolutely not.

They're still 5 & 6 (5 & 7 actually) in the open pool. Think players, not numbers. If anything, sliding might help us keep the Hawks' second.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

They're still 5 & 6 (5 & 7 actually) in the open pool. Think players, not numbers. If anything, sliding might help us keep the Hawks' second.

Missing out on better players might help us keep a lesser player?

Cool, sign me up!

 

[twce13]

Its happening!!
J Ridley meets with BRI in the hope to facilitate a trade?
If this gets over the line we are definitely contributing picks and salary relief to make it happen with Ah Chee, Starcevich & Neale all to WC for AFL assistance pick 19,
BRI will need plenty for Annable, top 5 pick, H Bridge(40), T Prindable(40-50).
BRI have 1660 draft points and will probably need a few later draft points and picks to match all 3.
They will also need some draft collateral to make a trade for Ridley, what is he worth?
Still contracted until 2029 so will need plenty of trade capital, but he has been hampered by injured for last 2 years.
Is he worth a couple of early second round picks?
BRI 1st plus another for a contracted player with 4 years on the contract, Barrass was a 1st, 2nd, 3rd round as a comparison.
Ridley BRI 1st wipes off 800 draft points for their Annable bid and couple of others so they will need at least another 800+ points to facilitate enough points and a trade.
WC compensation pick 19, WC 2nd round pick 23, Hawks 2nd, for Ah Chee, Starcevich and Neale??

ah chee is meh. not worth the list space imo.

but beyond that ahchee and starcevich are FA... why on earth are we giving up so much collateral for those two + neale who is likely a salary dump.

 

[Jootube]

They're still 5 & 6 (5 & 7 actually) in the open pool. Think players, not numbers. If anything, sliding might help us keep the Hawks' second.

Essendon have picks 4 & 5.
This will likely turn into 5 & 6 after OA compo.

Then when the bids for Uwland and Annable come they will AT LEAST turn into 7 & 8 (with the chance of being 9 & 10 if bids for Dean & Patterson come in early)

This means that "picks 5 & 6" actually net us the 9th and 10th best players in the draft, traded for pick one...

That's an awful trade no matter your busted logic.

 

[isthiswhereitype]

I would like to not be involved in a trade with Hawthorn this offseason, as a little treat to ourselves.

 

[Barrybran]

Missing out on better players might help us keep a lesser player?

Cool, sign me up!

Interesting conclusion

 

[WCErevival]

I would like to not be involved in a trade with Hawthorn this offseason, as a little treat to ourselves.

What about Owies to Hawks for Carltons first.

 

[Barrybran]

Essendon have picks 4 & 5.
This will likely turn into 5 & 6 after OA compo.

Then when the bids for Uwland and Annable come they will AT LEAST turn into 7 & 8 (with the chance of being 9 & 10 if bids for Dean & Patterson come in early)

This means that "picks 5 & 6" actually net us the 9th and 10th best players in the draft, traded for pick one...

That's an awful trade no matter your busted logic.

Boomer logic. Brilliant!

Which players that are available to us would you like to draft?

How would you structure a trade to get those players?

Think players, not numbers.

 

[CountryLad]

I really get frustrated at this faulty logic.

It's been proven wrong time and time again.

Think of draft picks as the right to pick the nTH best player in the draft. Picks 5 & 6 give us the rights to the 8th and 9th best players in the draft.

If you disagree you literally don't understand the concept,

So if I disagree with you I’m wrong here, I see how this works. No worries champ keep convincing yourself we are getting picks 5,6 & 9 for pick one if we decide to split. You be you .

 

[Doashuey]

I really get frustrated at this faulty logic.

It's been proven wrong time and time again.

Think of draft picks as the right to pick the nTH best player in the draft. Picks 5 & 6 give us the rights to the 8th and 9th best players in the draft.

If you disagree you literally don't understand the concept, sorry.

Not sure you understand the concept either. You said Pick 1 stays pick 1. But in reality in a completely open draft, there is a good argument that Uwland and/or Annabel are better than Duursma. So even though he may come with the tag of pick 1, doesnt mean he is the best in the draft, he may be the 3rd choice but just has the tag as pick 1.

Likewise with lower picks. Say pick 5 for Sharp. If he is the 5th ranked player in the compromised draft but the 8th ranked in the open draft then does it matter if we hold pick 5 with the intent to use it on Sharp but it gets shuffled to pick 8 with bids on 3x NGAs. Still get the same player.

So if we are looking to do a pick swap, the recruitment team wont be looking at what numbers we end up using they will be looking at if they can get the players we want with the picks. If they are comfortable that that player will be available after Ess take Duursma, We take pick 2 and we are confident who Tigers pick with 3 and 4 then it matters not if one of those teams bids on unavailable talent ahead of that pick, we still get our man. The only reason the numbers matter is if we are after points rather than a certain player at a certain area of the draft.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

We have limited list spots available as it is, especially if bring in a few senior players. So why are we looking to split picks? We need to take the best talent available

 

[Barrybran]

We have limited list spots available as it is, especially if bring in a few senior players. So why are we looking to split picks? We need to take the best talent available

stallion's idea of Sharp plus two of Cumming/Farrow/Schubert/Grlj/Hibbins-Hargreaves is more appealing than Sharp + Duursma. You take a small hit one pick for an overall gain on the other two.

 

[Jootube]

Boomer logic. Brilliant!

Which players that are available to us would you like to draft?

How would you structure a trade to get those players?

Think players, not numbers.

Lucky for us, if a player nominates for the national draft they're available to every club!

You're so close to understanding the concept - picks 5 and 6 get us the 8th and 9th best player (regardless of what number the pick is).

I don't care what number the pick is, I care how good the player is.
You saying "picks 5 & 6" is actually saying 8th and 9th best players in the draft.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

We have limited list spots available as it is, especially if bring in a few senior players. So why are we looking to split picks? We need to take the best talent available

I think some people are overlooking this when thinking of getting as many draft picks or players traded in/signed through FA as possible. As of now, we only have 7 spots available until the AFL grants us extra rookie spots, or if we delist a couple more players like Livingstone.

 

[beagles]

Yeah, let's give away our picks 1 & 2 so we can help other teams.

Who needs a rebuild. We can do what we did last year and draft average players, and stay wooden spooners.

 

[Coasters7]

I really get frustrated at this faulty logic.

It's been proven wrong time and time again.

Think of draft picks as the right to pick the nTH best player in the draft. Picks 5 & 6 give us the rights to the 8th and 9th best players in the draft.

If you disagree you literally don't understand the concept, sorry.

But you’re still trading it to someone else who knows this information as well. So the value of 5 and 6 is technically lower, but everyone knows that when trade period starts, so it’s a net zero.

It’s why 2 for 5 and 6 isn’t as farfetched as it sounds because in actual fact it’s 2nd best for the 8th and 9th best.

 

[Doashuey]

Lucky for us, if a player nominates for the national draft they're available to every club!

Cool, we will hang onto picks 1 and 2 and take Annabell and Uweland then.