Review Preliminary Final, 2025 - Collingwood vs. Brisbane Lions

[Mr Ripper]

Is there a clip of browny explaining to Ralph what a spoil is?

Starts at 5:50

 

[Nathan Barley]

did more than Day

He really hasn’t but I think we know you can’t see this clearly

 

[Miluxx]

Starts at 5:50

Holy crap Ralph has zero idea. No where in the rule book does it say you need to turn the body. Clown.

 

[Section 5]

what happened to all the sam day lovers? gallop unbelievable, Marshall, gallop and Levi all real good

And Oscar who was the one who actually replaced him?

I was happy for the club to play Sam Day. He did a pretty good job early in the year.
Then he dropped off some and went back and forth from both AFL & VFL.
Sam has played 13 AFL & 4 VFL games this year and has helped the team out. This is why we got him in as a stop gap

Meanwhile this allowed first year player Gallop more time to develop his craft in the VFL
Gallop has played 16 VFL games, kicked 26.14 which gives him some confidence in his goalkicking which our team desperately needs
He was also used in the Ruck which helped his fitness and gained extra skills in that area.

Gallop got his first AFL game in R13 and there were not many posters singing his praises from that game.
It was a learning curve, and he had a taste of what's needed at AFL level. Back to the VFL and try harder.
He returned in R24 and did not get much of the ball but on that occasion, he showed his desire for putting pressure on opponents even though he only had 5 disposals, 1 less than his previous game.
He was subbed off in those two games but showed good promise.

Next was the Cats game, his first final which he showed more improvement even though we got thumped
He had not kicked a goal in those three games but just looked more confident.

In his last two games he showed us what he is capable of. Hopefully he has one more good game in him this year.

I think this all just proves Gallop needed time to develop and the coaches selecting Day was the correct choice.

On Oscar.
Well Day was trying his best but starting to struggle and Oscar had a bad back issue, and the club obviously was not prepared to throw Gallop to the wolves in a F/R role. Thank heavens for that.
Oscar went back to the VFL for less pressure and get some easier disposals. More treatment of his back during the week

Oscar has now played the last 2 finals games. Has not set the world on fire but helping a little in the ruck and playing time forward to help out the 2 young guys height wise.
Thats his plus, however the Pies defense easily ran away from him when the ball hit the ground
He also does not have any leading pattern required for a tall forward, so our guys just have to plonk it on his head.
He is not a KPF. This is not Oscar's fault, and he is now playing a team role, and he will do his best.
Thats all Fagan requires of his players.

 

[mighty_lions]

He really hasn’t but I think we know you can’t see this clearly

lets say your right, which you aren't, I would rather give Oscar/fort combo games every single day of the week

 

[Nathan Barley]

lets say your right, which you aren't, I would rather give Oscar/fort combo games every single day of the week

Wow. Great point

 

[Elixuh]

Starts at 5:50

My face listening to Ralphy explain the vision

 

[OldLion]

He really hasn’t but I think we know you can’t see this clearly

I can see clearly now Sam Day is gone.

Gallop - giddy up !

 

[Elixuh]

what happened to all the sam day lovers? gallop unbelievable, Marshall, gallop and Levi all real good

We’re still here. He has made a valuable contribution to the club this year and we thank him for his service.

 

[Mooch]

I couldn't sleep last night so I watched the game again. Without the emotion of 'in the moment' you could see it was really never in doubt. The Pies spell in the second was the only time they really pegged us back. We were in control for the rest of the game. Wilmott was amazing and McCluggage was everywhere. Even Charlie was working his arse off to get involved in the game, so I was so pleased to see him grab a goal. Morris was fantastic forward. Kai was good but at times was just trying the hero move instead of the team thing. Zorko was good in the second half. He was stiff to give away the high free on Schultz seeing as 3 seconds early LAshcroft almost had this head taken off and driven into the ground, not paid. Harris Andrews

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Harris Andrews

Age

29

Ht

200cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.8

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

MG

151.7

2star

D

17.0

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.0

3star

D

9.8

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.8

4star

M

3.4

4star

T

1.6

4star

MG

94.0

2star

was had, shoulders, knees, and toes above their attack. An awesome individual performance.

 

[mighty_lions]

Wow. Great point

if you needed me to spell out I would rather give opportunity to our premiership ruckman in fort and Oscar who deserves his chance which ive stated numerous times before I dont really know what else you want

 

[mighty_lions]

We’re still here. He has made a valuable contribution to the club this year and we thank him for his service.

I could argue the case on how valuable his contribution was, anyway its kind of all irrelevant now

 

[Big Sauce 21]

Starts at 5:50

We know he doesn't chop the arm and there's a clear gap between the bodies. One of the best spoils and bravest after his head knock history to be done in a game.

 

[mighty_lions]

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We know he doesn't chop the arm and there's a clear gap between the bodies. One of the best spoils and bravest after his head knock history to be done in a game.

I think the AFL should clarify these sorts of interpretations, you are permitted to make incidental high contact in spoiling, so long as your sole purpose is the football a good example of this is Gardiner on Mckay 23 prelim

Front on contact is different though, how much contact are you allowed to make? is it none? is it a little bit?

 

[Darren Downunder]

what happened to all the sam day lovers? gallop unbelievable, Marshall, gallop and Levi all real good

I’m so happy to be proven wrong.
Oscar (love him) has got his body right when I thought he was finished
The return of Lehman to full fitness has been immense in the last part of the season
And Gallop, stepping up to replace Hippy has been wonderful.
I’m still a Sam Day lover and proud of it.
But the team chosen for our last two weeks has been brilliant.

 

[Conlan12]

I couldn't sleep last night so I watched the game again. Without the emotion of 'in the moment' you could see it was really never in doubt. The Pies spell in the second was the only time they really pegged us back. We were in control for the rest of the game. Wilmott was amazing and McCluggage was everywhere. Even Charlie was working his arse off to get involved in the game, so I was so pleased to see him grab a goal. Morris was fantastic forward. Kai was good but at times was just trying the hero move instead of the team thing. Zorko was good in the second half. He was stiff to give away the high free on Schultz seeing as 3 seconds early LAshcroft almost had this head taken off and driven into the ground, not paid. Harris Andrews was had, shoulders, knees, and toes above their attack. An awesome individual performance.

Have to agree. At the game, there appeared to be a certain sense of calm. We had their number. I read the game day thread today and was surprised by some of the panic. To the outside world, we're just along for the ride next week. No ****ing way. We're in it up to our eyeballs. Last night was so enjoyable

 

[ZoBlitz]

I think the AFL should clarify these sorts of interpretations, you are permitted to make incidental high contact in spoiling, so long as your sole purpose is the football a good example of this is Gardiner on Mckay 23 prelim

Front on contact is different though, how much contact are you allowed to make? is it none? is it a little bit?

Only change with front-on contact compared to the usual marking contest provisions is that it's a free if the player's "...sole objective is not to contest or spoil a mark".

 

[morsie]

The most egregious missed free was the headlock tackle. Crickets on that one.

Followed by the knee drop and free and goal to Dhultz.Nearly lost my tv.

 

[MSB ROYS]

Followed by the knee drop and free and goal to Dhultz.Nearly lost my tv.

Same here. After the 100 m penality as well. Looking at that again I don't think it was Levi who gave the 2nd 50 away. Someone else chased around the back of the kicker. Could be wrong though.

 

[Darren Downunder]

Same here. After the 100 m penality as well. Looking at that again I don't think it was Levi who gave the 2nd 50 away. Someone else chased around the back of the kicker. Could be wrong though.

I thought the umpire got it right with the two head high tackles.
Levi raised his arm to draw the free kick
And Shultz did go low but our tackling needed to be better.
But the 100 metre penalty!
I just have no idea how that happened.
Does anybody know?

 

[mattsmob]

Same here. After the 100 m penality as well. Looking at that again I don't think it was Levi who gave the 2nd 50 away. Someone else chased around the back of the kicker. Could be wrong though.

Ah Chee ran around the back but I’m pretty sure the umpire paid it against Levi which was absolutely ridiculous seeings how he was running alongside Daicos who wasn’t taking the free kick.

Both that and the Levi headlock were far more clear cut than the Starce spoil

 

[morsie]

Wonder what old mate eddie mcguire is doing right now.

Winding up about Zorks grabbing Cox's specs

 

[MSB ROYS]

Just because it went does not give the tackler the right to make it into a headlock and hold on. That's dangerous territory.

 

[mattsmob]

I thought the umpire got it right with the two head high tackles.
Levi raised his arm to draw the free kick
And Shultz did go low but our tackling needed to be better.
But the 100 metre penalty!
I just have no idea how that happened.
Does anybody know?

The umpire looked like he was telling Levi to clear the area even though he was just running alongside a Collingwood player so Levi probably didn’t even realise he was talking to him

 

[MSB ROYS]

Winding up about Zorks grabbing Cox's specs

There was speculation that Cox should be offered another contract. That would be a win other teams. They love their over 30s who must fall off a cliff soon.