Media Thread, 2025: Insightful, Inciteful and Incomptent

[Donkers]

came across my YT suggested, decided to reminisce

these boys made it look so easy

Whenever anyone is feeling bad this is a great watch.

 

[Chris_6678]

How come the Diacos brothers were out there with Snoop? Figured you would have someone from the actual GF teams out there doing a media promo for it.

 

[Big_Birdy]

How come the Diacos brothers were out there with Snoop? Figured you would have someone from the actual GF teams out there doing a media promo for it.

One team is in Brissy, the other Geelong.

May not have been convenient.

 

[Farang83150]

Did he get here before the pies were knocked out?

 

[Tugga27]

How come the Diacos brothers were out there with Snoop? Figured you would have someone from the actual GF teams out there doing a media promo for it.

I'm surprised the brothers weren't chosen to hand over the premiership cup and the Norm Smith.

There's always next year, I guess.

 

[kane249]

I'm surprised the brothers weren't chosen to hand over the premiership cup and the Norm Smith.

There's always next year, I guess.

AFL to implement a Daicos rule so Nick gets awarded a 3rd place trophy on behalf of Collingwood on Saturday

 

[Truly Lazuli]

How come the Diacos brothers were out there with Snoop? Figured you would have someone from the actual GF teams out there doing a media promo for it.

Should've been Rankine and Graham, brothers in philosophy

 

[bzparkes]

Should've been Rankine and Graham, brothers in philosophy

Finlayson could've got a lap of honour also, with Collard best young talent and Powell with the community award.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

How come the Diacos brothers were out there with Snoop? Figured you would have someone from the actual GF teams out there doing a media promo for it.

In terms of attitude, surely Harley & B Smith would have been more fitting.

**** the AFL-Police

 

[The Dodger]

I'm surprised the brothers weren't chosen to hand over the premiership cup and the Norm Smith.

There's always next year, I guess.

I like it. Going further, even though the 2 teams have been decided perhaps a wildcard entry into the GF?
Give 'em another chance you know.

 

[Farang83150]

What do I think...I think your spelling sucks!

 

[DorothyG]

He'd try to use the medal as currency.

Brad haride likes this

 

[THE A5]

What do I think...I think your spelling sucks!

Is that the account run by a bloke thats literally run by a brick shit house? Think his name is Tom

 

[Astro7]

Not a bad read from MP, discussing the recent history and rebuild of both Geelong and Lions, while sidestepping the equalisation protocols for another debate..

The Heavyweight Fight for Title of Best Team This Century - The Mongrel Punt

The Heavyweight Battle of the Century In the Blue and White corner, we have Geelong: Premierships: 2007, 2009 2011 and 2022 In the Maroon, Blue and Yellow corner we have Brisbane: Premierships: 2001, 2002, 2003 and 2024 Introduction As the dust settles on the 2025 Preliminary Finals, with...

themongrelpunt.com

 

[MaxHunt]

It'd be interesting to see how coaches value player contributions though.

For instance, there was that kerfuffle earlier in the year, where David King caught out McRae giving Naicos 5 votes in games where he didn't appear to be best on ground. As an example, the other coach was giving Daicos either 2 votes max, or no votes at all.

The last 18 Brownlow medalists have been in the top 6 contested ball winners for the season, so it's really no surprise that Rowell won over Daicos, as it was 2nd compared to 22nd in that stat.

Having said that, I do agree an overhaul is required, however I feel that looking at stats will only serve to muddy the waters even more.

I'll use an example from online gaming: The best player on a team isn't always the person with the highest score/best KDA. They're usually the one fighting for, and winning, objectives.

Rowell is what you'd consider the latter, whereas Naicos seems much more like a 'KDA player' in the way he goes about it, demanding the ball in bad spots despite teammates being in better positions.

We only need to look in our own backyard to see how much of an impact Reid has, despite not being a huge disposal getter.

I did like the suggestion from someone earlier that all umpires attending the game vote, not just the main field ones, as they all get a different perspective of the game.

Release who voted what at the end of the season. I still think coaches votes can be pretty biased. Playing favourites, not giving someone a vote if he played well but didn't follow some "team rules" during the game etc...

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

I didn't realise this happened in the dying seconds of a nail-biting finish

 

[Farang83150]

Is that the account run by a bloke thats literally run by a brick shit house? Think his name is Tom

No idea who runs it.
Also no idea what "a bloke thats literally run by a brick shit house" means!

 

[BSD]

I like it with the umpires but would be open to them at least getting the stats before voting. Although that might just exacerbate the midfield bias. Or we might see defenders who take 10 kick ins from behinds who all of a sudden sneak into the votes.

My understanding is that kick ins from the goal square after a behind has been scored don't count as a possession , however if the player plays on out of the square it does.
Correct me if I am wrong.

 

[Chris_6678]

One team is in Brissy, the other Geelong.

May not have been convenient.

Well Katie Perry did something with both teams last year...

 

[Keys]

My understanding is that kick ins from the goal square after a behind has been scored don't count as a possession , however if the player plays on out of the square it does.
Correct me if I am wrong.

This is correct but I can’t recall the last time I saw someone not run out of the square before kicking it

 

[squashface]

This is correct but I can’t recall the last time I saw someone not run out of the square before kicking it

Happens every now and then. source: me as a Fantasy player

 

[bzparkes]

Happens every now and then. source: me as a Fantasy player

Well stop doing it then.

 

[Keys]

I found this really interesting

Watching it you can understand the type of impact Hodge would’ve had when he went to Brisbane.

And likely why Baker and Graham were chased by the club last year and Starcevich this year

And why someone like Lachie Neale

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Lachie Neale

Age

32

Ht

177cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.0

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

15.5

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.7

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

28.3

5star

K

13.9

5star

HB

14.4

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

4.0

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

7.4

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.0

3star

CL

0.4

3star

would be invaluable if we somehow managed to get him across

 

[WCE777]

I found this really interesting

Watching it you can understand the type of impact Hodge would’ve had when he went to Brisbane.

And likely why Baker and Graham were chased by the club last year and Starcevich this year

And why someone like Lachie Neale would be invaluable if we somehow managed to get him across

have to totally agree, invaluable leadership quality players are what we need more than most clubs.
We are so bereft of leaders at the club that Baker comes in and wins the BnF, looks like the next captain all within 1 year.

This is why if L Neale ever gets close to getting here you make it happen with overs, the young group 22 and under have had a terrible few years of not winning games and poor leadership at the club.
They are the future and need every bit of leadership around them that we can muster.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

The home and away season may have seen one trend, but in the finals we've seen scores from stoppages emerge as king:

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1429016...inals-record-broken-for-scores-from-stoppages

Teams have averaged 39 points from stoppages per game in this finals series, which is the most on record since Champion Data started recording score sources in 2002.

The Cats scored 72 of their 115 points from stoppages in that clash against Hawthorn as captain Patrick Dangerfield ran riot in the midfield, having 13 score involvements in a finals performance for the ages.

Brisbane, meanwhile, scored 65 of its 100 points in the preliminary final win over Collingwood from stoppage chains - its second best result this year from that score source - with the influence of Will Ashcroft and Hugh McCluggage

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Hugh Mccluggage

Age

28

Ht

187cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.3

5star

K

11.4

4star

HB

7.9

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.0

5star

CL

2.2

4star

D

19.0

4star

K

12.0

5star

HB

7.0

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

2.0

4star

D

13.2

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.2

4star

T

1.8

4star

CL

0.6

3star

critical.

The increase in stoppage scores during the finals has gone against the trend from the home and away season, which saw the 60-point [scores from stoppages] barrier broken just 20 times in 207 games, with the Western Bulldogs averaging an AFL-high 47.6 scores from stoppages.

Every team except North Melbourne scored more heavily from turnovers than stoppages, but the finals have seen six of the eight qualifying teams lift their scores from stoppage above their season averages.

We have Picks 1 and 2. Just take the best two midfielders.

 

[RookiePick]

The home and away season may have seen one trend, but in the finals we've seen scores from stoppages emerge as king:

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1429016...inals-record-broken-for-scores-from-stoppages



We have Picks 1 and 2. Just take the best two midfielders.

It's really not that hard is it?