News What They're Saying - The Bulldogs Media Thread - Part 5

[Doggies7]

Pretty mild for Liber jnr, he must be maturing!

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Just when I thought I couldn't love Libba any more.

 

[Chicago1]

Green Bay is the enemy. Worse than Geelong!

 

[Doggies7]

Green Bay is the enemy. Worse than Geelong!

 

[dogwatch]

Nothing terribly deep here but it's always good to read an analysis that introduces a few new ideas. One that has taken the author a bit more than the standard 15 minutes to write. One that isn't heavy on cliches, random quotes and stale opinions, all packaged up with a bit of AI.

Merrett trade saga shows it is time to stop using first-round picks to judge deals

The AFL trade period offered three different test cases on just how much value a first-round pick holds during negotiations. Two stars got their moves, while one was left stranded.

www.abc.net.au

 

[dogwatch]

Also here's a slightly deeper dive than normal into this year's trade period. Uses the ABC's characteristic graphics tools and gives a reasonable overall summary of what happened and why.

I like reading the articles like this that Lawson and Atkinson put out.

Which team 'won' the AFL trade period — and does free agency need a fix?

It was one of the more chaotic AFL trade periods on record as picks and players moved all over the place — but who came out ahead the most?

www.abc.net.au

 

[dogwatch]

Final one for now. This is a much earlier article (2 April) that was referenced in the above trade period article. It does however seem to have been updated (eg with data on Murphy Reid's debut year).

It's topical for us while we talk about "the prime years of Bont", how much value we might get out of a player like Butters if we got him at say age 26, the value of a contract that runs until the player is 33 and whether it's worth spending much to trade in 30 year olds (like Wilkie for instance). Some good reference info.

The oldest team in AFL history is about to take the field — it's a growing trend

The AFL approaches expansion at a time where there is more talent in the league than ever before courtesy of veterans extending their primes and young players entering the league ready to cause a splash right away.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

Nothing terribly deep here but it's always good to read an analysis that introduces a few new ideas. One that has taken the author a bit more than the standard 15 minutes to write. One that isn't heavy on cliches, random quotes and stale opinions, all packaged up with a bit of AI.

Merrett trade saga shows it is time to stop using first-round picks to judge deals

The AFL trade period offered three different test cases on just how much value a first-round pick holds during negotiations. Two stars got their moves, while one was left stranded.

www.abc.net.au

Good article, it reminds me that we basically got a second round draft pick for Sniff. Luckily the sweetener for Kennedy, has been a master stroke.

I think Geelong was on the nose with teams this year, Mackie might finally understand trading like Trump does not win you any friends or create goodwill in future trading.

 

[Optimistic Dog]

After the trade in the HS we were rated the 10th best list. I think that is a bit low. I agree the lions rated the best. I think they are 6 goals better than anyone else and a shoo in for a third flag. The GC rated second also agree with that rating.

 

[dogwatch]

After the trade in the HS we were rated the 10th best list. I think that is a bit low. …

Hard to argue based on form (9th and failed to beat any of the finalists except GWS) and our failure to plug the acknowledged gaping KPD gap. Budarick was a welcome but modest improvement to the list.

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

Interesting to hear [PLAYERCARD]Adam Cooney[/PLAYERCARD] on [PLAYERCARD]Dylan Buckley[/PLAYERCARD]'s podcast talk about his relationship with the dogs. He reckons that a lot of our great players have a pretty poor relationship with the club. [PLAYERCARD]Matthew Egan[/PLAYERCARD] putting a massive focus on trying to fix that.

Basically said the only relationship with the club is through his kid being in our academy. Sounds like a similar situation to what happened with [PLAYERCARD]Scott West[/PLAYERCARD].

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

Also sounds like Brendan McCartney was just a grade A ****wit.

 

[MaxiBont]

Luke Beveridge target of alleged threats, $100,000 extortion plot

Western Bulldogs coach Luke Beveridge was the target of alleged threats and a $100,000 extortion plot by a 53-year-old man who failed to attend court on Tuesday.

www.theage.com.au

Western Bulldogs coach Luke Beveridge was the target of alleged threats and a $100,000 extortion plot by a 53-year-old man who failed to attend the Melbourne Magistrates’ Court on Tuesday.

 

[Thunderoad]

Luke Beveridge target of alleged threats, $100,000 extortion plot

Western Bulldogs coach Luke Beveridge was the target of alleged threats and a $100,000 extortion plot by a 53-year-old man who failed to attend court on Tuesday.

www.theage.com.au

Western Bulldogs coach Luke Beveridge was the target of alleged threats and a $100,000 extortion plot by a 53-year-old man who failed to attend the Melbourne Magistrates’ Court on Tuesday.

Same bloke that tweeted a threat to Simon Goodwin during the season.

Sounds quite unhinged and I'm glad the AFL took the threats seriously.

 

[Struggle]

Luke Beveridge target of alleged threats, $100,000 extortion plot

Western Bulldogs coach Luke Beveridge was the target of alleged threats and a $100,000 extortion plot by a 53-year-old man who failed to attend court on Tuesday.

www.theage.com.au

Western Bulldogs coach Luke Beveridge was the target of alleged threats and a $100,000 extortion plot by a 53-year-old man who failed to attend the Melbourne Magistrates’ Court on Tuesday.

Tom Morris looks good for 53

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Luke Beveridge target of alleged threats, $100,000 extortion plot

Western Bulldogs coach Luke Beveridge was the target of alleged threats and a $100,000 extortion plot by a 53-year-old man who failed to attend court on Tuesday.

www.theage.com.au

Western Bulldogs coach Luke Beveridge was the target of alleged threats and a $100,000 extortion plot by a 53-year-old man who failed to attend the Melbourne Magistrates’ Court on Tuesday.

Unhappy with team selection? Hope it’s no one here..

 

[_Cerberus_]

Same bloke that tweeted a threat to Simon Goodwin during the season.

Sounds quite unhinged and I'm glad the AFL took the threats seriously.

Article doesn't say its the same person. It's "unrelated" to the Goodwin and Voss incidents.

That being said, your comment got me curious. So I checked the latest news on the Goodwin threat, and seems nothing ended up coming from it. No arrest or anything was made. Person made a totally anonymous account and then faded away. People threatening others online happens way to often and they near always get away with it.

 

[the conch]

Interesting to hear Adam Cooney on Dylan Buckley's podcast talk about his relationship with the dogs. He reckons that a lot of our great players have a pretty poor relationship with the club. Matthew Egan putting a massive focus on trying to fix that.

Basically said the only relationship with the club is through his kid being in our academy. Sounds like a similar situation to what happened with Scott West.

Thanks for the tip. Great listen, stories … playing under Rocket Eade, whew.. real insight into the club and player relationships
Make you realise what we lost with Cal Ward and Ryan Griffen.

I think Cooney’s right … if those guys (Cooney, Griffen, Higgins etc. didn’t make a stand against MCartney (after not backed by the club) there’s no way flag in 2016.

 

[Lindsay_Gilbee]

Thanks for the tip. Great listen, stories … playing under Rocket Eade, whew.. real insight into the club and player relationships
Make you realise what we lost with Cal Ward and Ryan Griffen.

I think Cooney’s right … if those guys (Cooney, Griffen, Higgins etc. didn’t make a stand against MCartney (after not backed by the club) there’s no way flag in 2016.

No idea what the club was thinking making Griffen captain. McCartney was too obsessed with trying to turn all our players into Joel Selwood. Horrible man manager.

 

[maddog37]

No idea what the club was thinking making Griffen captain. McCartney was too obsessed with trying to turn all our players into Joel Selwood. Horrible man manager.

Strange dude.

 

[Freshwater]

Interesting to hear Adam Cooney on Dylan Buckley's podcast talk about his relationship with the dogs. He reckons that a lot of our great players have a pretty poor relationship with the club. Matthew Egan putting a massive focus on trying to fix that.

Basically said the only relationship with the club is through his kid being in our academy. Sounds like a similar situation to what happened with Scott West.

There is no ‘club’ if past players don’t have a relationship there anymore. The ‘club’ isn’t just the current players, coaches, admin and board. The ‘club’ is the supporters, sponsors, broader western suburbs residents and family connected to the club in the past and anyone interested in being a member. Past players are a very important element in the club being a club, not just a ‘franchise’.

 

[X_box_X]

Interesting to hear Adam Cooney on Dylan Buckley's podcast talk about his relationship with the dogs. He reckons that a lot of our great players have a pretty poor relationship with the club. Matthew Egan putting a massive focus on trying to fix that.

Basically said the only relationship with the club is through his kid being in our academy. Sounds like a similar situation to what happened with Scott West.

I enjoyed listening to this yesterday.

The stance against Macca was a great insight.

It sounds like I was wrong to pay tribute to Macca for building the foundations of our 2016 flag. Seems like Cooney, Griffen and Higgins taking a stance had more to do with the flag than Macca and they weren't even a part of that 2015/2016 journey.

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

Thanks for the tip. Great listen, stories … playing under Rocket Eade, whew.. real insight into the club and player relationships
Make you realise what we lost with Cal Ward and Ryan Griffen.

I think Cooney’s right … if those guys (Cooney, Griffen, Higgins etc. didn’t make a stand against MCartney (after not backed by the club) there’s no way flag in 2016.

Well that was a refreshing interview. Great insight into the drama at the club under McCartney, and what caused Griffen to flee. No wonder he cried after he was booed playing against us the first time, poor man, dammed if he did and dammed if he didn’t.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

I enjoyed listening to this yesterday.

The stance against Macca was a great insight.

It sounds like I was wrong to pay tribute to Macca for building the foundations of our 2016 flag. Seems like Cooney, Griffen and Higgins taking a stance had more to do with the flag than Macca and they weren't even a part of that 2015/2016 journey.

Clearly lots of things agitate me about the stupid media and supporter derived narratives that envelop the club like a noxious fart. But the one about McCartney building the foundations on which 2016 was built upon is the dumbest of them all. One would think that if the foundations were in place then we would've seen a steady rise up the ladder, but we were bumping our arses in the lower reachers of the ladder and going nowhere that the players revolted to such an extent that it finally forced the hand of our historically inert and conservative club to send McCartney packing.

It was only when the siege mentality of McCarthyism was lifted that we saw an immediate increase in output and rise up the ladder.

The idea that anybody needed to install a hard nosed professionalism into the likes of Boyd, Morris or Murphy was always a real reach.

 

[Thunderoad]

Interesting read about Kelvin Templeton.

Always a bloke with plenty of depth about him.

https://archive.md/W3hBc

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Does anything strike you as weird about this article?

Great news on Cody, btw

https://archive.is/rawQi