F1 2025 Brazilian Grand Prix - Race Weekend Thread

[BIRDBRAIN]

 

[StFly]

Agree. Piastri should have gone to lap 50 as his pace was OK on the mediums.

Would have gotten caught within 10 laps as those that had pitted were taking 4ish tenths off per lap at that stage. If anything they might have done a extend on Mediums until gap 1-2 lap on soft back to medium 2 stopper to the end.

Piastri’s mistake was touching the brake pedal at Turn 1

Because according to the rules he could’ve gone flying into Turn 1 smashed into Antonelli’s sidepod and they’d have called it a racing incident

Pretty much, that he locked up showed the stewards they could say "he lost control" instead of "he tried to mitigate contact and Kimi turned into him" for the penalty. If he had of just swung that arse in and pushed Kimi out it'd be a racing incident but then he'd have probably damaged his floor in the process.

If anything, Charles should have GTFO outta there as he was way outside and there was no way he was making that corner.

 

[juice t]

Would have gotten caught within 10 laps as those that had pitted were taking 4ish tenths off per lap at that stage. If anything they might have done a extend on Mediums until gap 1-2 lap on soft back to medium 2 stopper to the end.



Pretty much, that he locked up showed the stewards they could say "he lost control" instead of "he tried to mitigate contact and Kimi turned into him" for the penalty. If he had of just swung that arse in and pushed Kimi out it'd be a racing incident but then he'd have probably damaged his floor in the process.

If anything, Charles should have GTFO outta there as he was way outside and there was no way he was making that corner.

Another bullshit call based on outcome

Piastri did what any sane driver would do and went for the gap (Senna’s old bullshit about “If you no longer go for a gap that exists…”)

Braked earlier than Antonelli
Had a wheel on the inside kerb and didn’t change his line
Locked up when Antonelli focuses too much on LeClerc and doesn’t leave the space on the inside
And despite making the corner Piastri gets adjudged to have lost control of the car with that lockup which caused him to not have the Verstappen bullshit of not being level at the apex



And of course because of LeClerc being at the wrong place wrong time Ferrari cop the biggest punishment considering Mercedes got 2nd and 4th

 

[powerpowerpower]

Good race. I'll leave the disappointment of Oscars season to that seperate chat. The biggest win is the F1 feed commentary.

 

[Gasometer]

Good race. I'll leave the disappointment of Oscars season to that seperate chat. The biggest win is the F1 feed commentary.

Did they carry this type of graphics feed?

 

[Maddo11]

Agree. Piastri should have gone to lap 50 as his pace was OK on the mediums.

Especially with the 10sec penalty..

 

[Pure_Ownage]

At least most of us can get better sleep the next 3 weeks as we dont need to watch any racing now. Onto next year

 

[powerpowerpower]

Did they carry this type of graphics feed?

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Yup they did. If someone can tell me what that reply from McLaren meant that would be good haha.

 

[RWnBluey]

Well that was a fun race. All the different tyre offsets made it entertaining right to the end.

The good

• Interlagos delivers yet a another banger
• That Max fella goes alright. He could start from Mexico and still finish in the points here
• Red Bull strategy masterclass
• Great drives from Kimi and Ollie
• F1TV commentary
• TV direction - stayed focused on the right battles and no WAGS
• That pack finish
• Kudos to Hulk and Lawson for making 35 laps on softs and 52 laps on mediums work

The bad

• No rain… sigh
• Oscar’s penalty. Could’ve gone either way. I think he may have had a better case if he didn’t lock up and Charles hadn’t been taken out. Oh well
• Dirty air - without it both Max and Oscar clear the Mercs at the end there
• Disappointed for Bortoleto in front of his home crowd
• What was up with the intervals gap instead of leader gap? We shouldn’t need to be constantly mathing for the final 30 laps. Nobody cares how far P20 is off the lead

The ugly

• Ferrari’s weekend
• It’s absolutely criminal that Brazil has lost the sprint next year. Best track on the calendar for pure racing

Edit: Two penalty points for Oscar over that is an absolute joke. If drivers are discouraged from going for a gap when it’s there, what’s the point of racing?

 

[jb04]

What other track in the world could someone start from the back and just rampage onto a podium? We've seen it here multiple times in recent memory. Elite track.

I won't comment much on the... other things. My blood pressure is high enough after putting up the Christmas tree this weekend.

 

[RWnBluey]

What other track in the world could someone start from the back and just rampage onto a podium? We've seen it here multiple times in recent memory. Elite track.

I won't comment much on the... other things. My blood pressure is high enough after putting up the Christmas tree this weekend.

Xmas tree already? Hope it’s not real, it’ll be dead before we get there

 

[jb04]

Xmas tree already? Hope it’s not real, it’ll be dead before we get there

100% in Adelaide you rush home after the Christmas Pageant and get everything set up. 6 whole weeks of Mariah Carey bay-b.

 

[Guardian Hawk]

Far out Brazil is an awesome GP - kept everyone guessing right to the end.

Don't think McLaren quite got the strategy right for Oscar. The stops were not timed well (and seemed to come shortly after the instruction to have a longer stint). His pace was good and to bring him out on older mediums behind all his main competitors was probably not the right call (as Oscar also obviously pointed out).

 

[RWnBluey]

100% in Adelaide you rush home after the Christmas Pageant and get everything set up. 6 whole weeks of Mariah Carey bay-b.

*shudders

 

[ptrg]

Piastri’s mistake was touching the brake pedal at Turn 1

Because according to the rules he could’ve gone flying into Turn 1 smashed into Antonelli’s sidepod and they’d have called it a racing incident

Imo, he was looking good, and only locked up when Antonelli started to turn in on his (Oscars) space. So of course his reaction was to slam the brakes to avoid a big collision.
Im ropeable that that's a 10 seconds penalty

Edit: Oscar confirming what I said, had the corner covered, the other two were braking late, and only locked as Kimi wasn't leaving him space/to avoid a collison

Oh, and he seems uttetly resigned to losing the WDC and still can't explain where his pace had gone..

 

[NSWCROW]

The guy who waffles on and on and on about Hamilton with such intensity to the point where I wonder if I'm wrong about him is going to try to be the "balanced and objective" one about McLaren this year.

Your posts have been a huge drag down in recent races. It's probably best you have a spell away.

Put him on ignore then ffs

 

[skam85]

who needs an Aussie battler when you have an Aussie bottler

 

[Black_White]

Oscar was not far enough up to take the corner.
Simple unfortunately.

 

[Jatz]

I understand why Oscar sees it his way but I think the onus is on the car overtaking, not to cause the collision. He wasn't far up enough and it shouldn't be expected that Antonelli doesn't turn in to leave him room.

His biggest issue is qualifying recently. He's getting caught having to try and chase the race, which is where the errors in judgement are coming.

Got to give it to Lando, he's been nailing his qualifying/starts recently and it looks enough to make him a WDC. It's not over yet though, just one of those pesky DNF's would make things very interesting again.

 

[Bedi]

Alright I’m out, can’t watch F1 anymore this year. I can’t watch blando win. Moreover I can’t listen to the British Media gloat and carry on.

I’ll be back in Melbourne 2026.

I'm feeling a bit this way today too. Will keep watching, but possibly choose sleep over watching races live – that way i can fast forward when i need to. Can't be ****ed wasting any more of my time seeing Lando keep winning when everything is going so horribly wrong for Oscar.

 

[RWnBluey]

I understand why Oscar sees it his way but I think the onus is on the car overtaking, not to cause the collision. He wasn't far up enough and it shouldn't be expected that Antonelli doesn't turn in to leave him room.

His biggest issue is qualifying recently. He's getting caught having to try and chase the race, which is where the errors in judgement are coming.

Got to give it to Lando, he's been nailing his qualifying/starts recently and it looks enough to make him a WDC. It's not over yet though, just one of those pesky DNF's would make things very interesting again.

It’s a tricky one. I think this article provides a fair summary. Oscar actually got his front axle level with Kimi’s mirror before Kimi proceeded to close the door which caused Oscar’s lockup. Had Kimi given Oscar the space he was entitled to, there’s a decent chance Oscar would have still been alongside at the apex. I agree with Charles that both drivers played a role and should’ve shared responsibility for the incident.

‘Can’t disappear’: Why Piastri was robbed as fatal flaw behind penalty shock laid bare

‘Can’t disappear’: Why Piastri was robbed as fatal flaw behind penalty shock laid bare

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[Jatz]

It’s a tricky one. I think this article provides a fair summary. Oscar actually got his front axle level with Kimi’s mirror before Kimi proceeded to close the door which caused Oscar’s lockup. Had Kimi given Oscar the space he was entitled to, there’s a decent chance Oscar would have still been alongside at the apex. I agree with Charles that both drivers played a role and should’ve shared responsibility for the incident.

‘Can’t disappear’: Why Piastri was robbed as fatal flaw behind penalty shock laid bare

‘Can’t disappear’: Why Piastri was robbed as fatal flaw behind penalty shock laid bare

www.foxsports.com.au

Absolutely agree it's a tricky one.

That's exactly the reason why I think the onus should be on the car overtaking to avoid contact. I don't agree that Oscar was entitled to any space in that corner. He was behind and if you're relying on the car in front to give you space, I don't think you're in a good enough position to make the move.

It's all very hard to judge it in the split seconds these guys have to make these decisions of course.

 

[brutus76]

The stewards are full of sh*t

 

[RWnBluey]

Absolutely agree it's a tricky one.

That's exactly the reason why I think the onus should be on the car overtaking to avoid contact. I don't agree that Oscar was entitled to any space in that corner. He was behind and if you're relying on the car in front to give you space, I don't think you're in a good enough position to make the move.

It's all very hard to judge it in the split seconds these guys have to make these decisions of course.

According to the guidelines to be entitled to be given room the driver must:

i) “Have its front axle AT LEAST ALONGSIDE THE MIRROR of the other car PRIOR TO AND AT THE APEX”

ii) “Be driven in a fully controlled manner particularly from entry to apex, and not have "dived in".”

This is where it’s a grey area as up until this point as they enter the corner Oscar is a) in control of his car and b) does have his front axle level with Kimi’s mirror. What happens immediately after is arguably caused by Kimi squeezing Oscar.

There’s a case to be made for both sides of the debate. It was line ball but ultimately the FIA saw it differently. I do think 2 penalty points for that is incredibly harsh though, especially on a re-start.

 

[Not Important]

this is a good summation of piastri penalty.

Why Piastri was handed a controversial 10-second penalty in Brazil

Oscar Piastri was involved in the biggest flashpoint of the Formula 1 São Paulo Grand Prix, earning him a costly penalty and damaging his chances of winning the drivers' championship.

www.abc.net.au