The Bigfooty Liverpool Thread - Champions of England

[SC_Power]

We need a coach that knows how to set up a defence. Ange is probably the worst candidate imaginable for that.

What are the ideas when throw the pieces around and stabilise the leaking goals.
I’d be the worst manager so no answers, but just for something to talk about.

How about
3 at the back, 2 DM’s (Guehi if he comes in summer is ideal in a back 3)
2 WB that allow us to go defensive as a 7 man block when needed, or some freedom bomb forward with a DM able to slide across as defensive cover

3 at the front however you wish, 2 in CM/ AM plus 1 up front triangle when WB overlap or 2 CM run diagonals wide when WB stay back and cover a DM like Grav pushing forward up into CM.

The press can be 3 up front plus WB and one of the two DM’s = 6, or you just turn it off and those 3 retreat to a back 7.

We’ve got so many attackers that you get into their ears, don’t think 90 mins, you run and press like mad and think 60 mins max. Add some bite into the tackles, cop a card, cop a 5 yellow suspension, we’ve got the depth.

 

[Ed_Gein]

Can't see how Slot turns this around.

I thought the Villa / Real Madrid games would've steadied us, but those 2 games aside we've conceded 3+ in 5 games over the last 4 weeks. Shocking

 

[brutus76]

Definitely gotta change the system. We've been worked out and all our players are underperforming.

Maybe 3-5-2?

 

[GOALden Hawk]

We need to come up with a system that suits this squad, not last years.

Ideally something that has Isak and Ekiteke playing together, and one where Wirtz isn’t a square peg in a round hole.

 

[The Punter]

We need to come up with a system that suits this squad, not last years.

Ideally something that has Isak and Ekiteke playing together, and one where Wirtz isn’t a square peg in a round hole.

Diamond with Wirtz as the 10? Where does Szob go?

Ekiteke wide left?

Nothing neatly fits. In Klopp's first full year, he finished the year full of form with Sturridge and Origi in front next to each other (Mane was injured). For all his stubbornness, Klopp changed formations regularly.

And while the goals scored (we've outperformed our opponents on XG through these last three games if you can believe it) are an issue, for me I'd like to see what Jones described in the interview I posted. And he said he was to blame as well. Second balls, winning duels, making the opponents pay a physical price. That would be a good start for me.

 

[JLC]

OUT: Slot, Gakpo, Konate
IN: Ange, Semenyo, Guehi

Still need a genuine 6 as well for mine Szobo and Grav are both great 8's but don't cover the back 4 up enough

They would rip Anfield down if they appoint Ang. Zero chance.

 

[Cooldude]

This is the worst defense I've ever seen in a Liverpool team and it has Virgil Van Dijk, and 12 months ago this defense won the league. You can't tell me they're now shit overnight

It's on the manager that we have probably a relegation quality defense, 9 defeats in 12. No one wants managers sacked but this is a freefall, we need at least CL football, if he can't even win games at home after spending so much money then he has to go

 

[sacka]

Can we **** this bloke off already?

 

[JLC]

We need to come up with a system that suits this squad, not last years.

Ideally something that has Isak and Ekiteke playing together, and one where Wirtz isn’t a square peg in a round hole.

Maybe Slot has more balls than we give him credit for.

He might be showing the owners all the flaws in our squad in the hope that in January he can complete fixing the squad. (Wishful thinking perhaps).

Injuries have hurt us no doubt. But let's be honest Gomez as our back up central defender is laughable.

Midfield apart from Szob looks cooked. Slot doesn't trust anyone else apart from Jones. Not sure why Endo was retained if you refuse to play him.

 

[The Punter]

Maybe Slot has more balls than we give him credit for.

He might be showing the owners all the flaws in our squad in the hope that in January he can complete fixing the squad. (Wishful thinking perhaps).

Injuries have hurt us no doubt. But let's be honest Gomez as our back up central defender is laughable.

Midfield apart from Szob looks cooked. Slot doesn't trust anyone else apart from Jones. Not sure why Endo was retained if you refuse to play him.

Gomez isn't our back up central defender any more than Endo is our back up midfielder. In most similar circumstances, backups would have played by now.

 

[Lefti93]

Diamond with Wirtz as the 10? Where does Szob go?

Ekiteke wide left?

Nothing neatly fits. In Klopp's first full year, he finished the year full of form with Sturridge and Origi in front next to each other (Mane was injured). For all his stubbornness, Klopp changed formations regularly.

And while the goals scored (we've outperformed our opponents on XG through these last three games if you can believe it) are an issue, for me I'd like to see what Jones described in the interview I posted. And he said he was to blame as well. Second balls, winning duels, making the opponents pay a physical price. That would be a good start for me.

The below?
Isak Ekitike
Wirtz
Dom Grav
Robbo carbon-rod vvd ramsay
mama/ali

Wirtz floating

 

[The Punter]

The below?
Isak Ekitike
Wirtz
Dom Grav
Robbo carbon-rod vvd ramsay
mama/ali

Wirtz floating

Who got sent off?

 

[Lefti93]

Who got sent off?

LOL.. I forgot Macca. You can't blame me though he's been poo.

 

[The Punter]

LOL.. I forgot Macca. You can't blame me though he's been poo.

Fair enough.

The solutions will tend to be drastic though. But AFCON will present an opportunity to perhaps see what it looks like.

 

[Fwoy]

Who got sent off?

Nah, we play both Ali and Mama together

 

[The Punter]

Nah, we play both Ali and Mama together

Innovative. Worth a try.

 

[JLC]

Gomez isn't our back up central defender any more than Endo is our back up midfielder. In most similar circumstances, backups would have played by now.

Agree, so we zero cover.

The biggest drop off is Konate. I genuinely thought without having to babysit Taa, Ibou would thrive this season.

Quansah was banished never to be seen again after 1 poor half. Feel sorry for him in hindsight.

Is this all on Slot or does Edwards need to take some of the blame?

 

[The Punter]

Agree, so we zero cover.

The biggest drop off is Konate. I genuinely thought without having to babysit Taa, Ibou would thrive this season.

Quansah was banished never to be seen again after 1 poor half. Feel sorry for him in hindsight.

Is this all on Slot or does Edwards need to take some of the blame?

If there is quality on the bench and it ain't getting used, that's on Slot. Quansah was banished, and it ruined his confidence. He moved and is now probably going to the World Cup. I'd be hitting that buy back clause at the earliest convenience.

Elliott is another, as is Chiesa (who at least gets on the pitch but in 1.5 seasons hasn't started a meaningful game).

 

[FreoRicci]

Slot still wants to be a Pep Guardiola wannabe.

Back to back 3 goal losses at home. That’s embarrassing

 

[GOALden Hawk]

I can’t remember being this disheartened since Jose Enrique was captain for us one night.

 

[FreoRicci]

Klopp would've played Ramsay tonight, and Gomez, perhaps Chiesa too. Playing the same team that he played against Forest (Hugo for Isak). WTF are you doing campaigner? You can't defend that shit. I'm not sure if I want him sacked yet, but that is inexcusable.

Just keep playing that junk up forward. Were horrific v Forest.

What’s with preferring Jones, Gravenberch over Szobo in the middle. Absolute waste of talent and time.

 

[The Punter]

Just keep playing that junk up forward. Were horrific v Forest.

What’s with preferring Jones, Gravenberch over Szobo in the middle. Absolute waste of talent and time.

Jones played mainly RB today. We also struggled when Szob played as a six.

 

[Lefti93]

Nah, we play both Ali and Mama together

At the rate we're conceding this may be our only chance of keeping a clean sheet

 

[Zidane98]

If you wanna make a statement then drop Konate and **** him off asap.

The club if serious should be on the phone to Klopp.

That's so difficult. Endo not up to it. Jogo basically is nogo. Leoni out for 12 months. It's a shit situation.

 

[The Punter]

In Klopp's last season we had a patch where Gomez played CDM and we kept going.

Just sayin'.