Anthony Albanese - How long? -3-

[Bunk Moreland]

The permanent game plan of any legacy major political party is to control the message by working with their partners in the media.

The ability to be able to control what people see and how they see it is a huge part of how they do business.

Social media ended that. So anything at all to weaken or stop social media. Basically, stop or curb people communicating with each other en masse. That’s all this is.

 

[Kram]

Media moguls ideology is revenue, like everyone else, so they hyperbolize to rile up the populace who like flies to a shit farm can't resist. Leading everyone to believe, insert whatever topic, is the 'norm'

On face value sky should be in debt and non existent, given how supposedly unpopular they should be, yet there are many examples of posters who would be ideologically opposed to 'sky' that link clips and watch it.

Sky's main consumers are surely just ultra conservative boomers and the far left that get worked up.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

A little off topic, but I agree to a certain point. I think it's somewhere in between.

Media moguls ideology is revenue, like everyone else, so they hyperbolize to rile up the populace who like flies to a shit farm can't resist. Leading everyone to believe, insert whatever topic, is the 'norm'

On face value sky should be in debt and non existent, given how supposedly unpopular they should be, yet there are many examples of posters who would be ideologically opposed to 'sky' that link clips and watch it.

Can't resist grinding that axe, same with left leaning media, like I dunno Crikey or Betoota advocate, I haven't read much of their stuff but immediately it is critical of conservative and right wing ideology. This is a ploy to piss of the 'righties' for the purpose of revenue not for the purpose of pissing off the righties, maybe the journos of both sky or Crikey do have ideological tendencies but the owners probably don't or not to the same degree.

I'm more than confident that on face value, Murdoch is at the very least a conservative but not trying to 'indoctrinate' the world through inflammatory headlines. Just wants to create revenue, what better way than piss off the 'lefties'?

Murdoch saw a market opportunity for a platform for conservative opinion, which was being sidelined due to “progressive” ideology taking hold. Sky in Australia has over 11 million subscribers. I would say it is the MSM, which is free, that sees itself as “the norm”.

Being able to present alternative views should be seen as healthy in a democracy. Argue against the opinion, rather than attack the platform or the presenter personally.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Murdoch saw a market opportunity for a platform for conservative opinion, which was being sidelined due to “progressive” ideology taking hold. Sky in Australia has over 11 million subscribers. I would say it is the MSM, which is free, that sees itself as “the norm”.

Being able to present alternative views should be seen as healthy in a democracy. Argue against the opinion, rather than attack the platform or the presenter personally.

15 million people voted in the last election.

And we are meant to believe that 11 million of them subscribe to Sky News?

lmao

 

[King Patty]

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Just in case anybody was in any doubt

anyone under 40 still read those things?

 

[Carringbush2010]

Murdoch saw a market opportunity for a platform for conservative opinion, which was being sidelined due to “progressive”

Progressive ideology is hyperbolised by the media as is conservative and right wing ideology.

It's the media that paints a picture that is exaggerated, regardless of 'left' or 'right', they have zero moral and almost zero ideology. It's all about greed.

Sky in Australia has over 11 million subscribers. I would say it is the MSM, which is free, that sees itself as “the norm”.

That is surprising, it doesn't reflect the mainly centred populace. So it's fair to assume that the bulk of that 11 million aren't hard right wingers - doesn't make sense.

Certainly not convinced it's 11 million, more likely 1 million. Have you got evidence?

Being able to present alternative views should be seen as healthy in a democracy. Argue against the opinion, rather than attack the platform or the presenter personally.

100% agree.

15 million people voted in the last election.

And we are meant to believe that 11 million of them subscribe to Sky News?

lmao

It'd be naive to believe that every single sky subscriber is a self centred bigoted boomer, probably a minority, heck there's even posters on here who link sky material who would definitely oppose sky's views and opinions.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Certainly not convinced it's 11 million, more likely 1 million. Have you got evidence?

Sorry, 11 million is the reach, actual subscribers is about half that ( and rising).

Sky News reaches more than 11.1 million Australians each month across various platforms, including broadcast and digital, as of reports in late 2024 and early 2025. There is no single "total subscriber" count as viewership is fragmented across multiple free and paid services.
Key audience figures include:

• Broadcast Television: Sky News is the number one non-sport channel on the subscription service Foxtel and reaches more than 2.2 million unique viewers on that platform. Its free-to-air channel, Sky News Regional, reaches over 2.8 million unique viewers in regional markets.
• Digital Platforms: Sky News Australia's content on digital platforms delivered over two billion video views in 2024.
  • YouTube: The channel has over 6.03 million subscribers. In 2024, an average of 4.7 million Australians watched content on YouTube each month.
  • Website/App Subscription: In January 2024, Sky News Australia launched a direct-to-consumer streaming subscription service, providing 24/7 access to its content via its website and app for a monthly fee of $5. The number of subscribers for this specific paid service has not been publicly disclosed, though reports indicate "impressive uptake".
  • Website Visitors: SkyNews.com.au attracts an average of 3.4 million monthly Australian unique visitors.

Overall, the network has a significant and growing audience through a multi-platform approach, rather than a single, all-encompassing subscriber base.

 

[Cyg1992]

A good portion of Sky's internet based viewership are low IQ Americans. You can see it in nearly all of their YouTube clip comments.
Wish we had news like that over here that isn't so WOKE!

It's why during Biden's presidency they were cranking out like 10-15 sleepy Joe/CCP Joe videos a day. They were catering to their largest online audience.

Their Aussie broadcast viewership is boomers and a bit of gen Xers.

 

[schneebly111]

Sorry, 11 million is the reach, actual subscribers is about half that ( and rising).

Sky News reaches more than 11.1 million Australians each month across various platforms, including broadcast and digital, as of reports in late 2024 and early 2025.

Their YouTube videos on Australian issues get no more than a few thousand views each. Their broadcast viewers total like 20,000 per night.

11 million Australians are not tuning into Sky News, even once per month. That’s over 50% of adults.

 

[Cooldude]

The permanent game plan of any legacy major political party is to control the message by working with their partners in the media.

The ability to be able to control what people see and how they see it is a huge part of how they do business.

Social media ended that. So anything at all to weaken or stop social media. Basically, stop or curb people communicating with each other en masse. That’s all this is.

Social media is the biggest propaganda machine in human history right now, it isn't a social media good legacy media bad kinda thing, all forms of media in end stage capitalism are bad. Ideally we can do without both legacy media and social media but that's never gonna happen

If anything, any smart government party, particularly right leaning, should be allowing social media, that shit is billionaire funded brain rot. Murdoch is just upset he ain't the one holding the steering wheel anymore

 

[NSWCROW]

Why hasn't she quit to the back-bench yet ??

sussan ley did the same thing and look at her now !

 

[MarcMaverick]

Why hasn't she quit to the back-bench yet ??

sussan ley did the same thing and look at her now !

She's Labor so its ok. They're allowed to be teflon.

 

[Cyg1992]

Social media is the biggest propaganda machine in human history right now, it isn't a social media good legacy media bad kinda thing, all forms of media in end stage capitalism are bad. Ideally we can do without both legacy media and social media but that's never gonna happen

If anything, any smart government party, particularly right leaning, should be allowing social media, that shit is billionaire funded brain rot. Murdoch is just upset he ain't the one holding the steering wheel anymore

And just wait until the AI misinformation kicks fully into gear.

It's already started on a small scale

Travel vlogger Kurt Caz accused of using AI to depict London as ‘dangerous hell hole' by 'doctoring' images | LBC

Caz describes London as a city plagued by homelessness, knife crime, drug dealers, pickpockets and phone snatching

www.lbc.co.uk

This guy started out as an innocuous and very generic travel vlogger, leaning a bit into the sex tourism side of things but generally harmless.

Has pivoted to a far-right/fascist influencer now, who goes into very poor neighbourhoods provoking junkies and recent migrants into confrontations.

Ironically he isn't English, nor even European. Just a south African rabble rouser likely funded by some very wealthy people.

 

[NSWCROW]

She's Labor so its ok. They're allowed to be teflon.

sauce for the goose

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Everyone's talking about housing. Governments can tackle more than one issue at a time. In fact, it's kinda necessary.

Yeah but Labor voters cannot. Gotta keep the dull masses distracted with circuses and wine in order to secure the votes so that Albo can continue to fatten himself and his ego at the political teat.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Sorry, 11 million is the reach, actual subscribers is about half that ( and rising).

Sky News reaches more than 11.1 million Australians each month across various platforms, including broadcast and digital, as of reports in late 2024 and early 2025. There is no single "total subscriber" count as viewership is fragmented across multiple free and paid services.
Key audience figures include:

• Broadcast Television: Sky News is the number one non-sport channel on the subscription service Foxtel and reaches more than 2.2 million unique viewers on that platform. Its free-to-air channel, Sky News Regional, reaches over 2.8 million unique viewers in regional markets.
• Digital Platforms:Sky News Australia's content on digital platforms delivered over two billion video views in 2024.
  • YouTube: The channel has over 6.03 million subscribers. In 2024, an average of 4.7 million Australians watched content on YouTube each month.
  • Website/App Subscription: In January 2024, Sky News Australia launched a direct-to-consumer streaming subscription service, providing 24/7 access to its content via its website and app for a monthly fee of $5. The number of subscribers for this specific paid service has not been publicly disclosed, though reports indicate "impressive uptake".
  • Website Visitors: SkyNews.com.au attracts an average of 3.4 million monthly Australian unique visitors.

Overall, the network has a significant and growing audience through a multi-platform approach, rather than a single, all-encompassing subscriber base.

Like I said, most of the 'viewers' are most likely NOT hard core right wing bigots.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

Like I said, most of the 'viewers' are most likely NOT hard core right wing bigots.

You get free SKY News with Samsung Smart TV purchase.

There's about 3.6 million of them connected to the internet in Australia lol

Subscription by stealth.

 

[Gralin]

For all the failings of this government and the opposition are reduced to this.

Liberals twist RBA remarks in false narrative on public spending

Last week the Liberal Party shamefully misquoted the Reserve Bank boss in a weak attempt to justify its criticism of government spending.

www.thenewdaily.com.au

I kind of reckon we should judge Labor on what Labor are and not what the coalition are

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Like I said, most of the 'viewers' are most likely NOT hard core right wing bigots.

What are they then? In your opinion. What is a “hard core right wing bigot”? Someone whose opinions are different from yours?

 

[Demonic Ascent]

anyone under 40 still read those things?

Anyone under 60 more like it. If I see anyone reading the Sun I automatically think they're completely out of touch ie "boomer" or lacking critical thinking skills.

 

[Carringbush2010]

You get free SKY News with Samsung Smart TV purchase.

There's about 3.6 million of them connected to the internet in Australia lol

Subscription by stealth.

Yeah and all those 3.6 million are now indoctrinated to right wing views.

 

[Thrawn]

Neither would I but is this what is being legislated? At the end of the day if this leads to fewer people on social media altogether it can only be a good thing, social media has its use but overall is an absolute cesspool.

While I do think social media is a cancer, restricting something like YT is a net negative. I wish I had that while in high school, even though there's bad actors, AI slop, etc there are genuinely educational videos that can help all ages.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

While I do think social media is a cancer, restricting something like YT is a net negative. I wish I had that while in high school, even though there's bad actors, AI slop, etc there are genuinely educational videos that can help all ages.

Most videos on youtube can be watched without logging in.

 

[Gralin]

The rise of social media outpaced our ability to regulate it, this is the first attempt to impose any kind of regulation. I don't think it will work, but ultimately, it's probably better to try and fail, then try again, than throw up our hands and leave kids at the mercy of tech oligarchs.

Classic example of modern government

Issue exists - government ignores it

Experts weigh in - government ignores it

Someone in government reads controversial but popular book - government acts without consulting anyone

Experts and those affected weigh in - government ignores and pretends their actions are based on expert advice

 

[rank and file]

Interesting that Murdoch is very supportive of the social media ban yet Skynews.com.au has gone down an end of freedom of speech and Labor indoctrination of kids angle.

Amusingly when I commented on this hysterical piece below saying not all parents would agree with the authors contention, my post got deleted. I guess freedom of speech only works in specific circumstances

https://www.skynews.com.au/insights-and-analysis/social-media-ban-comes-into-force-the-left-completes-part-one-of-its-mission-to-indoctrinate-australias-children/news-story/a35f351b0fabd4c314e75b2251a83358

Guardian horrified,Sky saluting.