Opinion AUSTRALIAN Politics: Adelaide Board Discussion Part 6

[FR0GGY]

“the guy is seriously dumb” - yep, wins 94 seats (equal most wins in a federal election - equal to 1996), the biggest 2PP since 1975. If he is “seriously dumb”, what does that make the Australian public and what does that make the Opposition?

The rise of Hanson shows how stupid individuals can be

You said it

 

[adelaidecrows]

If this doesn't warrant a Royal Commission, what does?

The public deserve a thorough examination to see what needs to be put in place to minimise the chances of this occurring again.

This means looking into the role of the enforcement agencies, gun laws & hate speech laws.

We owe it to the victims & their family & friends.

The coalition have made this very personal, but the ALP are digging a bigger hole by refusing a Royal Commission. Both have been disappointing.

Im telling you, we didnt get one for covid even though there would have been countless royal commisions into an event like that just 20 years ago, all because politicians dont want the negative PR. Covid btw deserves a royal commision way over and above this however this still does deserve one.

 

[Bearded Clam]

The rise of Hanson shows how stupid individuals can be and how racist etc they can be.

Whats even more stupid about all these new Hanson supporters is they dont even understand how the Australian election/voting/parliamentary system works..

You see so many of them claiming “Hanson is going to be the next PM” in recent weeks!..

Really?.. she’s a Senator sitting in the Senate in a party that holds zero HoR seats and thats polling around 14%.. and according to these morons she’s gonna be the next PM!

The only reason these deadshits love her is because she says the racist and bigoted things they think, out loud for them.. giving validation to their complete ignorance just as Trump does to his MAGA base.

 

[Mutineer]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/nsw/prime-minister-anthony-albanese-faces-mounting-pressure-over-royal-commission-refusal/news-story/91cbd07dfa7a5e8d2452b23d17b6e072

Prime Minister Anthony Albanese faces mounting pressure over royal commission refusal

The Prime Minister who once passionately demanded royal commissions now refuses calls for one into anti-Semitism despite overwhelming support from Australia’s elite. This is a royal commission that is in the public interest.

“This has had a real impact on people.

“And this is the sort of thing that is deserving of a royal commission. We don’t take it lightly. But it is deserving of it because those people deserve that to happen.” That was Anthony Albanese, in April 2016, calling on the Turnbull government to call a royal commission into the financial services industry, following a slew of reports about misconduct and malfeasance by bankers, brokers, planners, and advisers.

Daniel Aghion KC, a distinguished barrister and president of the Executive Council of Australian Jewry, told The Saturday Telegraph neither the NSW commission nor the Richardson review would have adequate scope or powers to do what is required.

“[A NSW royal commission] can’t look at immigration. It can’t look at foreign funding. It can’t look at the federal government. It can’t look at the federal security organs. It can’t do any of that because those have nothing to do with NSW,” he said.

“[The Richardson review] is limited to the departments that it is asked to look into … they will only look at ASIO and associated agencies. And they will only look at failures in those specific security agencies. They will not look more broadly.

Amid mounting political pressure, and internal haggling from the Nationals, Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull announced the Royal Commission into Misconduct in the Banking, Superannuation and Financial Services Industry in November 2017.

 

[Mutineer]

Labor swindles Australians on gas

Just before Christmas, the Albanese government released its wet lettuce East Coast gas reservation policy, which has arrived too late and will do little to improve gas supply and affordability. The main problem with the policy is that it will apply only to new gas projects from 2027 and will...

www.macrobusiness.com.au

Labor swindles Australians on gas


Just before Christmas, the Albanese government released its wet lettuce East Coast gas reservation policy, which has arrived too late and will do little to improve gas supply and affordability.

The main problem with the policy is that it will apply only to new gas projects from 2027 and will require exporters to set aside between 15% and 25% of their gas production for domestic use. As a result, any extra gas supplies will only arrive when new projects are finished or when existing contracts roll off from 2030:
Unlike the Coalition’s policy taken to the last election, Labor’s reservation plan won’t stop the gas cartel from exporting uncontracted (spot) gas.

Therefore, Labor’s reservation policy will do little to increase gas supply in the short to medium term.

Echoing my concerns, former independent federal MP Rex Partick, who forced the Turnbull Liberal government to establish the Australian Domestic Gas Security Mechanism (ADGSM) in 2017, which granted the federal government the right to impose reservation in the East Coast gas market, labelled Labor’s reservation policy a “treasonous betrayal” at Michael West.com:

The reservation scheme only starts in 2027. That means nothing will change in the next 18 months.

And even when the scheme does kick in it will do very little. No retrospectivity means that there will be a 0% domestic reserve on massive amounts of existing gas and a 15-25% reserve on tiny amounts of new gas…

And so, the gas cartel members are left grinning like the Cheshire Cat.

It’s no change for them. They get to charge foreign customers high prices, charge Australians a motza too, transfer their profits offshore to minimise their tax and pay no royalties (PRRT was even more pathetic in the recent MYEFO). And the Government is content in letting them do that.

The Albanese Government has put commercial interests, and it’s mainly foreign commercial interests, before our national interest…

The newly announce gas policy is, in summary, a big win for the gas cartel and a big win for gas users in Japan and South Korea. But it’s a massive loss for Australian consumers and Aussie manufacturing companies…

Most of the mainstream media has reported the announcement as a policy win, when in truth, it’s a treasonous betrayal.

Rex Patrick is right, of course.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Labor swindles Australians on gas

Just before Christmas, the Albanese government released its wet lettuce East Coast gas reservation policy, which has arrived too late and will do little to improve gas supply and affordability. The main problem with the policy is that it will apply only to new gas projects from 2027 and will...

www.macrobusiness.com.au

Labor swindles Australians on gas


Just before Christmas, the Albanese government released its wet lettuce East Coast gas reservation policy, which has arrived too late and will do little to improve gas supply and affordability.

The main problem with the policy is that it will apply only to new gas projects from 2027 and will require exporters to set aside between 15% and 25% of their gas production for domestic use. As a result, any extra gas supplies will only arrive when new projects are finished or when existing contracts roll off from 2030:
Unlike the Coalition’s policy taken to the last election, Labor’s reservation plan won’t stop the gas cartel from exporting uncontracted (spot) gas.

Therefore, Labor’s reservation policy will do little to increase gas supply in the short to medium term.

Echoing my concerns, former independent federal MP Rex Partick, who forced the Turnbull Liberal government to establish the Australian Domestic Gas Security Mechanism (ADGSM) in 2017, which granted the federal government the right to impose reservation in the East Coast gas market, labelled Labor’s reservation policy a “treasonous betrayal” at Michael West.com:

The reservation scheme only starts in 2027. That means nothing will change in the next 18 months.

And even when the scheme does kick in it will do very little. No retrospectivity means that there will be a 0% domestic reserve on massive amounts of existing gas and a 15-25% reserve on tiny amounts of new gas…

And so, the gas cartel members are left grinning like the Cheshire Cat.

It’s no change for them. They get to charge foreign customers high prices, charge Australians a motza too, transfer their profits offshore to minimise their tax and pay no royalties (PRRT was even more pathetic in the recent MYEFO). And the Government is content in letting them do that.

The Albanese Government has put commercial interests, and it’s mainly foreign commercial interests, before our national interest…

The newly announce gas policy is, in summary, a big win for the gas cartel and a big win for gas users in Japan and South Korea. But it’s a massive loss for Australian consumers and Aussie manufacturing companies…

Most of the mainstream media has reported the announcement as a policy win, when in truth, it’s a treasonous betrayal.

Rex Patrick is right, of course.

Australians paying more for gas whilst the energy corporations profit selling overseas is a complete joke that has been allowed by every commonwealth government. We should not be rorted on a resource that is plentiful.

The politicians who really care about the Australian public's interests are usually not from a major party.

Rex Patrick
David Pocock
Andrew Wilkie
Jackie Lambie

It's why I prefer to support independents as imo we are better off with more of them. Neither major party has dealt with this issue.

 

[Doctor B]

Labor swindles Australians on gas

Just before Christmas, the Albanese government released its wet lettuce East Coast gas reservation policy, which has arrived too late and will do little to improve gas supply and affordability. The main problem with the policy is that it will apply only to new gas projects from 2027 and will...

www.macrobusiness.com.au

Labor swindles Australians on gas


Just before Christmas, the Albanese government released its wet lettuce East Coast gas reservation policy, which has arrived too late and will do little to improve gas supply and affordability.

The main problem with the policy is that it will apply only to new gas projects from 2027 and will require exporters to set aside between 15% and 25% of their gas production for domestic use. As a result, any extra gas supplies will only arrive when new projects are finished or when existing contracts roll off from 2030:
Unlike the Coalition’s policy taken to the last election, Labor’s reservation plan won’t stop the gas cartel from exporting uncontracted (spot) gas.

Therefore, Labor’s reservation policy will do little to increase gas supply in the short to medium term.

Echoing my concerns, former independent federal MP Rex Partick, who forced the Turnbull Liberal government to establish the Australian Domestic Gas Security Mechanism (ADGSM) in 2017, which granted the federal government the right to impose reservation in the East Coast gas market, labelled Labor’s reservation policy a “treasonous betrayal” at Michael West.com:

The reservation scheme only starts in 2027. That means nothing will change in the next 18 months.

And even when the scheme does kick in it will do very little. No retrospectivity means that there will be a 0% domestic reserve on massive amounts of existing gas and a 15-25% reserve on tiny amounts of new gas…

And so, the gas cartel members are left grinning like the Cheshire Cat.

It’s no change for them. They get to charge foreign customers high prices, charge Australians a motza too, transfer their profits offshore to minimise their tax and pay no royalties (PRRT was even more pathetic in the recent MYEFO). And the Government is content in letting them do that.

The Albanese Government has put commercial interests, and it’s mainly foreign commercial interests, before our national interest…

The newly announce gas policy is, in summary, a big win for the gas cartel and a big win for gas users in Japan and South Korea. But it’s a massive loss for Australian consumers and Aussie manufacturing companies…

Most of the mainstream media has reported the announcement as a policy win, when in truth, it’s a treasonous betrayal.

Rex Patrick is right, of course.

This is true, and I have a great deal of respect for Rex Patrick.

Looking back on the 2002 John Howard "gold medal performance" of locking the then extremely low price of gas to overseas countries for decades without setting a gas reservation for Australian households and industry and taxing the overseas corporations mining our gas properly must be one of the biggest fails from any of our Prime Ministers.

Howard effectively sold out every future generation of Australian with his utter incompetence.

 

[Vader]

Australians paying more for gas whilst the energy corporations profit selling overseas is a complete joke that has been allowed by every commonwealth government. We should not be rorted on a resource that is plentiful.

The politicians who really care about the Australian public's interests are usually not from a major party.

Rex Patrick
David Pocock
Andrew Wilkie
Jackie Lambie

It's why I prefer to support independents as imo we are better off with more of them. Neither major party has dealt with this issue.

Safe to say that Pocock received my #1 vote on the ACT Senate paper at the last election, and will do so again at the next election. He's easily the most popular politician in the ACT, and (in my opinion) the best politician in Federal Parliament full stop.

 

[Mutineer]

Howard effectively sold out every future generation of Australian with his utter incompetence.

LOL

Interesting edit, Labor luvvies doing what a Labor Luvvie does....

Why did you leave this out of your edit Luvvie?
Especially the last sentence.

The Albanese Government has put commercial interests, and it’s mainly foreign commercial interests, before our national interest…

The newly announce gas policy is, in summary, a big win for the gas cartel and a big win for gas users in Japan and South Korea. But it’s a massive loss for Australian consumers and Aussie manufacturing companies…

Most of the mainstream media has reported the announcement as a policy win, when in truth, it’s a treasonous betrayal.

 

[ADL9798]

Well there we go!

https://www.news.com.au/finance/culture/trends/1300-providers-the-aussie-suburb-with-one-ndis-business-for-every-13-residents-as-govt-struggles-to-rein-in-scheme/news-story/a2ca8f4585f432ec16a21abd3ac7ae3d

Surely there need to be more staff available to review/audit providers.

Reckon the frauds they uncover/prevent would pay for their salaries many times over.

Then more funding available for those in real need... including those stuck long term in hospital beds as have nowhere else to go.

When this amount of money is involved, there need to be the right checks & balances.

Across the rest of our health system you have strict processes in place to review and ensure value for money of every dollar spent, and standardise funding for services (IHACPA for public hospitals and aged care, MSAC for Medicare services, PBAC for pharmaceuticals).

None are perfect but they do a pretty bloody good job by international standards.

No rigorous mechanism to govern expenditure has ever existed for the NDIS.

Given the level of expenditure this was either incompetence or malicious maladministration to make sure the system failed by design (see the NBN rollout for an example of what can happen when a similarly major policy reform is announced under one government and delivered by another).

From what I’ve heard that is about to change. Some of these providers are in for a rude awakening!

NDIS is a great idea just poorly executed so I’d hope it isn’t canned entirely.

 

[ADL9798]

Australians paying more for gas whilst the energy corporations profit selling overseas is a complete joke that has been allowed by every commonwealth government. We should not be rorted on a resource that is plentiful.

The politicians who really care about the Australian public's interests are usually not from a major party.

Rex Patrick
David Pocock
Andrew Wilkie
Jackie Lambie

It's why I prefer to support independents as imo we are better off with more of them. Neither major party has dealt with this issue.

Add Tassie Senator Nick McKim to the list.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Across the rest of our health system you have strict processes in place to review and ensure value for money of every dollar spent, and standardise funding for services (IHACPA for public hospitals and aged care, MSAC for Medicare services, PBAC for pharmaceuticals).

None are perfect but they do a pretty bloody good job by international standards.

No rigorous mechanism to govern expenditure has ever existed for the NDIS.

Given the level of expenditure this was either incompetence or malicious maladministration to make sure the system failed by design (see the NBN rollout for an example of what can happen when a similarly major policy reform is announced under one government and delivered by another).

From what I’ve heard that is about to change. Some of these providers are in for a rude awakening!

Exactly this!

Australian taxpayers fund NDIS around $49B... yet there are poor checks & balances compared to the likes of health & education.

By investing properly investing in checks & balances, we would actually save money & funds would be available to those in need who are missing out... including many long-term term people stuck in hospital beds because they have nowhere else to go.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Add Tassie Senator Nick McKim to the list.

Don't know much about him.

Will keep an eye out.

 

[Mutineer]

Exactly this!

Australian taxpayers fund NDIS around $49B... yet there are poor checks & balances compared to the likes of health & education.

By investing properly investing in checks & balances, we would actually save money & funds would be available to those in need who are missing out... including many long-term term people stuck in hospital beds because they have nowhere else to go.

Just another noble ALP scheme that was poorly planned and rushed through long before the financial checks and balances were established and has seen billions and billions of taxpayers rorted by many on all levels.

And of course Anthony Albanese and his socialist left faction handed the poisoned chalice to his biggest ALP leadership rival from the "right" faction of the ALP Bill Shorten who for all his faults isn't weak or a mug like Albo who had the good sense to desert the portfolio and the ALP for a far easier gig.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Just another noble ALP scheme that was poorly planned and rushed through long before the financial checks and balances were established and has seen billions and billions of taxpayers rorted by many on all levels.

And of course Anthony Albanese and his socialist left faction handed the poisoned chalice to his biggest ALP leadership rival from the "right" faction of the ALP Bill Shorten who for all his faults isn't weak or a mug like Albo who had the good sense to desert the portfolio and the ALP for a far easier gig.

The NDIS was implemented in July 2013 by the Rudd ALP government, but the Abbott Coalition government won soon after in September 2013 & were in power til 2022 til ALP got back in under Albanese.

That's right, the Coalition have overseen the NDIS for more years than the ALP. To blame the lack of oversight only on the ALP is very biased. Both parties are to blame Bicks!

 

[kirky]

The NDIS was implemented in July 2013 by the Rudd ALP government, but the Abbott Coalition government won soon after in September 2013 & were in power til 2022 til ALP got back in under Albanese.

That's right, the Coalition have overseen the NDIS for more years than the ALP. To blame the lack of oversight only on the ALP is very biased. Both parties are to blame Bicks!

According to Bicks the Coalition have never ****ed up anything.

And the Coalition gave us a second rate NBN as well - rather than FTTH (which the ALP proposed) they changed it to FTTN. Bloody brilliant and cost the country billions to now fix.

 

[kirky]

LOL

Interesting edit, Labor luvvies doing what a Labor Luvvie does....

Why did you leave this out of your edit Luvvie?
Especially the last sentence.

The Albanese Government has put commercial interests, and it’s mainly foreign commercial interests, before our national interest…

The newly announce gas policy is, in summary, a big win for the gas cartel and a big win for gas users in Japan and South Korea. But it’s a massive loss for Australian consumers and Aussie manufacturing companies…

Most of the mainstream media has reported the announcement as a policy win, when in truth, it’s a treasonous betrayal.

If the gas was under contractural arrangements, what do you think should happen?

You’ve supposedly been in business, do you not honour contractural arrangements?

 

[Doctor B]

LOL

Interesting edit, Labor luvvies doing what a Labor Luvvie does....

Why did you leave this out of your edit Luvvie?
Especially the last sentence.

The Albanese Government has put commercial interests, and it’s mainly foreign commercial interests, before our national interest…

The newly announce gas policy is, in summary, a big win for the gas cartel and a big win for gas users in Japan and South Korea. But it’s a massive loss for Australian consumers and Aussie manufacturing companies…

Most of the mainstream media has reported the announcement as a policy win, when in truth, it’s a treasonous betrayal.

Why do you interact with people like a 13-year-old?



What did Howard do with the original contracts? He prioritised foreign commercial interests over ours.
He gave China a fixed price until 2031.
Far worse than the reservation scheme Albanese is implementing.

Under the government's policy, major East Coast exporters would be required to set aside 15-25% of their gas for domestic consumption, equivalent to 200-350 petajoules per year.
What was Howard's reservation policy?

Howard was happy to give it away for short-term gain.

Much like Howard and Costello selling off 167 tonnes of our future fund gold for $2 billion, that would be worth $36 billion currently.

 

[kirky]

Why do you interact with people like a 13-year-old?



What did Howard do with the original contracts? He prioritised foreign commercial interests over ours.
He gave China a fixed price until 2031.
Far worse than the reservation scheme Albanese is implementing.

Under the government's policy, major East Coast exporters would be required to set aside 15-25% of their gas for domestic consumption, equivalent to 200-350 petajoules per year.
What was Howard's reservation policy?

Howard was happy to give it away for short-term gain.

Much like Howard and Costello selling off 167 tonnes of our future fund gold for $2 billion, that would be worth $36 billion currently.

Don’t give him the facts. He doesn’t like facts or the truth, he lives in la-la land.

And it starts with any contracts now entered into from the date of the Minister’s announcement.

As usual the ALP do all the hard yards and Coalition always hope they skate into office. The Coalition’s only problem is it ain’t going to happen in the short term - especially given the current status of the Liberals. Similar to 1983-1996 Hawke Keating years ago - Coalition was unelectable.

 

[Mutineer]

Why do you interact with people like a 13-year-old?



What did Howard do with the original contracts? He prioritised foreign commercial interests over ours.
He gave China a fixed price until 2031.
Far worse than the reservation scheme Albanese is implementing.

Under the government's policy, major East Coast exporters would be required to set aside 15-25% of their gas for domestic consumption, equivalent to 200-350 petajoules per year.
What was Howard's reservation policy?

Howard was happy to give it away for short-term gain.

Much like Howard and Costello selling off 167 tonnes of our future fund gold for $2 billion, that would be worth $36 billion currently.

LOL

The Future Fund established by Howard and Costello...that Future Fund?

 

[kirky]

LOL

The Future Fund established by Howard and Costello...that Future Fund?

You still missed the point tho.

Selling off our two thirds of our gold reserves for a pittance. A massive misjudgement.

And the Future Fund was only established in April 2006. The last 18 months of the Howard-Costello years. One of their accomplishments.

 

[Doctor B]

LOL

The Future Fund established by Howard and Costello...that Future Fund?

Stay on track here.

Did they piss 167 tonnes of our gold away?

There's no point responding to you.
Instead of arguing or rebutting a point you just lol emoji or throw red herrings.

 

[kirky]

Stay on track here.

Did they piss 167 tonnes of our gold away?

There's no point responding to you.
Instead of arguing or rebutting a point you just lol emoji or throw red herrings.

He rarely answers a question. Its a playbook some utilise consistently.

 

[Peter Doherty]

He rarely answers a question. Its a playbook some utilise consistently.

Let it go, you're bullion him now.

 

[MrKK]

Exactly this!

Australian taxpayers fund NDIS around $49B... yet there are poor checks & balances compared to the likes of health & education.

By investing properly investing in checks & balances, we would actually save money & funds would be available to those in need who are missing out... including many long-term term people stuck in hospital beds because they have nowhere else to go.

We received NDIS funding when our son had some speech development issues and frankly we didn't need it. It wasn't remotely close to what I would consider a disability and we could afford private speech therapy if we wanted to.

At the time I thought that if NDIS funding is used for our situation then no wonder the spending is out of control.