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Wonder why women were topping themselves more in the 60s? Its fairly consistent otherwise.
Men as well then. The rest is largely straight forward enough, massive spike with the Depression, dropping down during WW2 when everyone was valued (even if it's 'just' to work a factory or hold a gun, so the 'no one thinks I'm worth anything' thoughts driving suicide were easier to put aside). You can see why some men may have disliked the 60's, with women getting more rights, feeling they are even more worthless now they aren't needed for traditional roles, but you'd have expected women's rates to go down during that era.

That rate for men especially is a tragedy. It doesn't get mentioned enough and when it does it rarely touches on how many young men feel left behind by the world now. Little addressing of many of the underlying causes.
 

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Sorry "age-standardised rate"?

'The purpose of age-standardisation is to eliminate the influence of varying age distributions when assessing health metrics. For example, a population with a higher proportion of older individuals would naturally have higher crude rates of disease or mortality simply due to the age-related increase in these events. By using an age-standardized rate, one can obtain a more accurate picture of the true risk or incidence of a health condition across different populations or over time.'
 
'The purpose of age-standardisation is to eliminate the influence of varying age distributions when assessing health metrics. For example, a population with a higher proportion of older individuals would naturally have higher crude rates of disease or mortality simply due to the age-related increase in these events. By using an age-standardized rate, one can obtain a more accurate picture of the true risk or incidence of a health condition across different populations or over time.'
Yep its an interesting concept.

In most health contexts it makes perfect sense. In older times, there were less people who made to an age where they would get things like heart disease and stroke, so you adjust to compare apples with apples.

I actually just looked in to it and apparently suicide also leans towards older age groups. That surprises me quite a bit - I would have thought the opposite, especially given how many people I know of personally.
 
Not amongst kids and teens growing up in my days.
Remember this is the days before the net.
You got 12 year old girls committing murder these days.
The world is fk’d up especially western culture.
Spot on there was no phones or net when I was growing up. You had to get out the house and do things for fun.
We had and oval next to our place.
Every night after school we would play footy or cricket till it got dark and we had to go inside.
Only reason for ovals now is for people to take there dogs to shit on them.

I'm not exactly sure when you were growing up, but youth suicide rates were at their worst in the 80s and 90s pre-internet and came down significantly in the 2000s, but are on the way up again now.
 
adolescence/young adulthood has always been an absolute shit of a time if you're "different"

since forever
Possibly true as there is definitely more different people these days.
Your average dope smoker of the 70’s wouldn’t have had the brains to tie a knot.
Plus they were to happy in there own world.
adolescence/young adulthood has always been an absolute shit of a time if you're "different"

since forever
You’re possibly correct but there is degrees of different these days.
Back in the 70’s your average dope smoker wouldn’t have had the brains to tie a knot.
Anyway they were too happy in their own little world.
I'm not exactly sure when you were growing up, but youth suicide rates were at their worst in the 80s and 90s pre-internet and came down significantly in the 2000s, but are on the way up again now.
I’m talking mainly about the 70’s and even the 80’s you didn’t have kids 12- 15 years old killing themselves like you do now.
Fk at 12 i was still playing with Toy plastic soldiers and I think I still believed sort of in Father Christmas 🤪
 
Wonder why women were topping themselves more in the 60s? Its fairly consistent otherwise.

Correlates with blister packs of pills replacing old school “bottles of sleeping pills”. One reason why rates drop in that specific cohort. Popping lots of little helpers out takes time.

Having guns in locked cupboards, or ammo stored away from the guns, statistically helps another cohort (and reduces the incidence of harms to others as well).

Based on research with survivors of failed attempts, many of these acts are done very much in the heat of a moment. Things that introduce even slight delays may allow a momentary urge to pass.
 
The suicide of kids, adolescents and those in their prime of their life is a great tragedy and a failing of a society like ours which has wealth in abundance but seemingly unwilling or unable to use it where it's most needed. The level of support resources for those in crisis is criminally neglected.

But I personally have no issue with someone in the later stages of life, struggling with a range of debilitating chronic mental and physical health conditions that severely restrict their dignity, quality of life and who are concerned about the impact their failing health might have on their kids and dependents contemplating ending their own life. I think that it's entirely rational for someone in those circumstances to contemplate these things and to want to discuss them with their GP, friends and family without the stigma of being thought of as 'suicidal' and someone who needs to be closely monitored.

Reckon a caring and rational society and government should be capable of understanding the fundamental difference between those two circumstances. We aren't anywhere near there yet. And I reckon religion has a lot to do with that. But that's a topic for another thread.
 

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Not amongst kids and teens growing up in my days.
Remember this is the days before the net.
You got 12 year old girls committing murder these days.
The world is fk’d up especially western culture.
Back in my day... the thing that allows us to get a lot more information about what is going on in the world didn't exist, so things didn't occur then.

Not that I didn't here about them because the internet wasn't prevalent.
 

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Discussion about suicide in the AFL off season, because a young footballer took his life is boring to you? Fair enough, jump off the internet and go for a swim or mow your lawns.

Condolences to the family of the young man.


Drugs.
Suicide.
Murders.
Muggings.
Burglary.
Sexual Assault.
Teenage Crime.
Knife Crime.
Car Theft.
Road Rage.
Sov Citizen.
Terrorism.
Anti Semitism.
Wars.

Welcome to everyday life in 2026 and beyond.
 
Condolences to the family of the young man.


Drugs.
Suicide.
Murders.
Muggings.
Delta Goodrem songs being played on the golden oldies radio stations.
Sexual Assault.
Teenage Crime.
Knife Crime.
Car Theft.
Road Rage.
Sov Citizen.
Terrorism.
Anti Semitism.
Wars.

Welcome to everyday life in 2026 and beyond.
True there is just so much going on now
 
Condolences to the family of the young man.


Drugs.
Suicide.
Murders.
Muggings.
Burglary.
Sexual Assault.
Teenage Crime.
Knife Crime.
Car Theft.
Road Rage.
Sov Citizen.
Terrorism.
Anti Semitism.
Wars.

Welcome to everyday life in 2026 and beyond.
Hey according to 240, none of that existed pre 1989.
 
True there is just so much going on now
Gold FM spinning Delta Goodrum tracks for the Boomers comes as no surprise.

I was listening to some top 50 90's rock music playback on the Vevo streaming service the other day, and the gen Y host had Roxette in the top 10.

Now call me a bit of a grouchy gen Xer, but since when was Roxette classified as Rock'n Roll...
 

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