Anthony Albanese - How long? -3-

[Markfs]

The ECAJ is the peak body. The fringes can please themselves

I dont want to question your tactics, doggie, but head office normally takes the "keep complaining" option. Anyway, things are progressing. Hopefully, you'll be able to discredit Albo, even with an obviously antisemitic commissioner. I look forward to seeing the moves.

 

[SSwans2011]

Their opposition seems to be because she’s a pro protest judge and her decisions cited as a reason the Supreme Court overruled the governments ban on the pro Hamas rally in Sydney.

Not pro protest, pro the right to peaceful assembly. Which is one of our basic fundamental rights protected by the ICCPR which Australia is a signatory to. And accordingly a right that should be recognised and protected by any judge that's actually doing their job.

 

[Hojuman]

When will the first calls about the cost and time it's taking come from Jo$h & Ssuussaann ?
Aug / Sept ? Earlier ?

 

[peetoo]

The ECAJ is the peak body. The fringes can please themselves

which body or body will the RC recognise

It could be like the Catholic church investigations where the structures are complicated

 

[Markfs]

Their opposition seems to be because she’s a pro protest judge and her decisions cited as a reason the Supreme Court overruled the governments ban on the pro Hamas rally in Sydney.

Thank you. Well that proves she's antisemitic...evidently

 

[Gavin Excell]

When will the first calls about the cost and time it's taking come from Jo$h & Ssuussaann ?
Aug / Sept ? Earlier ?

February

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

When will the first calls about the cost and time it's taking come from Jo$h & Ssuussaann ?
Aug / Sept ? Earlier ?

Fried fredo will complain evey step of the way, and when it reaches the inevitable conclusion that Isreals genocide has increased anti semitism that is when fried fredo will whinge about cost.

 

[FIGJAM]

If these people keep this up some might conclude they just want o whack Albos labor govt and not get to the root of those people in society who want to make anti semitic views into violent action

I’d wager that the Jewish community don’t want to “whack Albo’s Labor govt”, but don’t want him and his crew (or the State Governments) to be free of criticism.

All governments of all levels and whatever political persuasion were quick to denounce antisemitic attacks (threats, graffiti, arson, vandalism and ultimately terrorism), but few have made efforts to proactively highlight the issues and educate against it.

I can’t recall how bad it was here for the Islamic community here post 9/11, but it definitely wasn’t as horrific and concentrated as against the Jewish community here post October 7.

Albo setting up the RC is a sign of strength, not weakness. I think he needs to confront his shortcomings as a leader. I believe that he thinks that if he is a decent bloke whose heart is in the right place (and I believe he does) then that’s good enough. But when things were running away and escalating like it did with this bout of antisemitism, we needed stronger leadership/addresses from leaders and even a national advertising campaign.

 

[Markfs]

Rupertnews has announced that the terms of reference of the RC will be extended to cover this week's cartoon. There are rumours that capital punishment might be reactivated.....

 

[HurleyHepsHird]

At least they've stuck to their guns and appointed someone both qualified and respected.

Hopefully the terms of reference have been well thought out, and cover everything from policing, to foreign interference, to social media and promotion of hate speech by public figures and in media more broadly, given it's now been stated they have been working on them for some weeks.

If platforms like twitter or facebook, neonazi groups, lone wolf terrorists, extremists, political parties like One Nation and so on, actually have their conduct examined, that would be a major benefit for the public, but I'm pessimistic.

Likewise, if there were failings on behalf of NSWpol, though I am very hesitant to criticise either the police response or the security services in this case.

A change to gun laws might help exclude said people from accessing legal firearms, but the act itself seems very difficult to predict.

And both individual officers and the public responded heroically. Likewise I'm not sure how draconian anti-protest powers solve or prevent or even have a relationship to such an attack.

 

[Hojuman]

 

[peetoo]

There's no suggestion the shooters attended pro Palestinian protests or even had sympathies there

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

I can’t recall how bad it was here for the Islamic community here post 9/11, but it definitely wasn’t as horrific and concentrated as against the Jewish community here post October 7.

I can, and it was pretty bad.

 

[PiCkLeJuiCe]

good work, doggie....see what you can do with the zionist federation and the rest. Take your time. I know there's a large time difference with head office.

Good to see you're taking the news well.

 

[Markfs]

Good to see you're taking the news well.

you have to be pragmatic on this side, pickle. For example, I look at the current situation in gaza and see that there's been a decrease in the number of children killed and I'm relatively happy. The other positive is that the western media doesnt bother reporting on gaza since the discussion on albo's RC started. Glass half full, you know. Your side has higher expectations.

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

Some alarm bells:

Mr Albanese left the door open to the commission holding closed hearings to prevent the airing of antisemetic views, noting Commissioner Bell had been tasked with conducting the hearings in a "manner … which doesn't undermine social cohesion".

As commissioner, Ms Bell will have the power to decide whether the prime minister and other ministers, such as Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke, should be called to give evidence.

Ms Bell will also make recommendations on how to strengthen social cohesion and counter the spread of ideological and religiously motivated extremism.

What is “social cohesion”? This is a typical “progressive” concept, the feels.

Tony Burke is THE one who should give evidence. Home Affairs Minister while representing a Western Sydney electorate. 7000 citizenships granted just before the election. 3000 Gazans brought in on visitor visas. Covert repatriation of ISIS families. He is hopelessly compromised in his ministry. If Commissioner Bell decides not to question him, or Wong, or Albo, the public will lose faith in this RC.

 

[peetoo]

Some alarm bells:

Mr Albanese left the door open to the commission holding closed hearings to prevent the airing of antisemetic views, noting Commissioner Bell had been tasked with conducting the hearings in a "manner … which doesn't undermine social cohesion".

As commissioner, Ms Bell will have the power to decide whether the prime minister and other ministers, such as Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke, should be called to give evidence.

Ms Bell will also make recommendations on how to strengthen social cohesion and counter the spread of ideological and religiously motivated extremism.

What is “social cohesion”? This is a typical “progressive” concept, the feels.

Tony Burke is THE one who should give evidence. Home Affairs Minister while representing a Western Sydney electorate. 7000 citizenships granted just before the election. 3000 Gazans brought in on visitor visas. Covert repatriation of ISIS families. He is hopelessly compromised in his ministry. If Commissioner Bell decides not to question him, or Wong, or Albo, the public will lose faith in this RC.

Seriously,,,why name Wong?
,?

 

[Donakebab]

Time for a Royal commission into the media.

Hopefully this gets picked up under the 'social cohesion', along with other forms of discrimination and racism against other sections of the community.

 

[FIGJAM]

I can, and it was pretty bad.

I felt like it was too, even if not as bad as this.

Regardless, attacking people of a faith or ethnicity half a world away due to a major event is idiotic and we need to be proactive against it at every level.

 

[Festerz]

Isnt getting booed at a sporting event a right of passage for Pms?

Yep. A grand tradition.

The perennial favourite quote is from 1974 when then PM Gough Whitlam was invited to a Rugby League Test at Lang Park in Brisbane.

Gough walked out to the centre of the field at the beginning of the game accompanied by then QRL president and Labor Senator, Ron McAuliffe. And the chorus of boos erupted from the crowd.

When he got back in the stands Whitlam turned to McAuliffe and chided him saying : "If I'd known how unpopular you were in your own state, I would never have agreed to come here".

 

[Festerz]

There's no suggestion the shooters attended pro Palestinian protests or even had sympathies there

Nor that they ever went anywhere near the campus of any Australian University - which was a key focus of Segal Report.

 

[peetoo]

Or that is and Hamascare aligned

This is dr google I wasn't aware till I read this

Google Search

 

[Festerz]

Some alarm bells:
Ms Bell will also make recommendations on how to strengthen social cohesion and counter the spread of ideological and religiously motivated extremism.

What is “social cohesion”? This is a typical “progressive” concept, the feels.

In the past month you have continuously made reference to the Segal Report into combatting Anti-Semitism and, in your view, the failure of the Albanese Government to respond to its recommendations (proven untrue of course).

But now your sticking point with the Terms of Reference for a Federal Royal Commission is that it focusses on the 'typically progressive concept of social cohesion'.

Let me quote back to you the opening paragraph of the Segal Report into combatting antisemitism in Australia. The words that frame her findings and recommendations on what the Federal and State Governments and institutions must do to combat a rising climate of antisemitism in Australia.

'Jews have been in Australia since the First Fleet. As part of the fabricof Australian society from its earliest days, Jewish Australians have contributed meaningfully to every sphere of national life: civic, cultural, economic and political. They have experienced high levels of social integration and, until recently, relatively low levels of antisemitism.'

The recommendations of the Segal Report references social cohesion multiple times including here:



You do see the words 'social cohesion' there don't you? I was going to bring out the highlight tool to help you out but couldn't be bothered.

Not sure exactly why. But I'm beginning to think that maybe you have never bothered to read the Segal Report in full at all - apart from the snippets quoted in NewsCorp publications to suit a particular agenda

 

[beez]

Looking forward to reading the Mearsheimer and Walt book about the goings-on of the last month.

sigh

 

[Dogs_R_Us]

In the past month you have continuously made reference to the Segal Report into combatting Anti-Semitism and, in your view, the failure of the Albanese Government to respond to its recommendations (proven untrue of course).

But now your sticking point with the Terms of Reference for a Federal Royal Commission is that it focusses on the 'typically progressive concept of social cohesion'.

Let me quote back to you the opening paragraph of the Segal Report into combatting antisemitism in Australia. The words that frame her findings and recommendations on what the Federal and State Governments and institutions must do to combat a rising climate of antisemitism in Australia.

'Jews have been in Australia since the First Fleet. As part of the fabricof Australian society from its earliest days, Jewish Australians have contributed meaningfully to every sphere of national life: civic, cultural, economic and political. They have experienced high levels of social integration and, until recently, relatively low levels of antisemitism.'

The recommendations of the Segal Report references social cohesion multiple times including here:

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You do see the words 'social cohesion' there don't you?

I'm beginning to get the hint that maybe you have never bothered to read the Segal Report apart from the snippets quoted in NewsCorp publications to suit a particular agenda

Yes but what do think it is? Everyone getting along? A lot of people don’t want to get along. They want to kill somebody.

How can it happen?