Europe War in Ukraine - Thread 5 - thread rules updated

[Zidane98]

Belgorod without power, heat or water:

 

[wannabejack]

https://ukranews.com/en/amp/news/1132872-ukrainian-company-fire-point-has-developed-fp-9-missile-that-can-reach-moscow-and-st-petersburg

Iryna Terekh added that ballistics is a key element in overcoming powerful air defense systems, such as the three circuits around moscow.

"It will be much easier to hit Moscow with ballistic missiles. We need to understand that neither cruise missiles nor drones will reach Moscow in any large percentage that can make a significant impact on Moscow or its infrastructure. Therefore, the only hope is ballistics with a high speed of hitting the target. More than 1200 meters per second," she said.

 

[Mobbs]

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[Aussie in exile]

https://ukranews.com/en/amp/news/1132872-ukrainian-company-fire-point-has-developed-fp-9-missile-that-can-reach-moscow-and-st-petersburg

Iryna Terekh added that ballistics is a key element in overcoming powerful air defense systems, such as the three circuits around moscow.

"It will be much easier to hit Moscow with ballistic missiles. We need to understand that neither cruise missiles nor drones will reach Moscow in any large percentage that can make a significant impact on Moscow or its infrastructure. Therefore, the only hope is ballistics with a high speed of hitting the target. More than 1200 meters per second," she said.

Target as many oil refineries as possibe, as its oil that is financing russias illegal invasion of Ukraine. Also wherever possible target road and rail bridges to destroy the russian transport infastructure, and lets not forget the airports

 

[Mobbs]

Seems it was Flamingo missiles which struck the Oreshnik supply base at Kapustin Yar recently.

 

[CD Xbow]

Belgorod without power, heat or water:

What's with the giant Z? Looks like Sesame Street.

Where's the count? I see him now....

 

[StFly]

Seems it was Flamingo missiles which struck the Oreshnik supply base at Kapustin Yar recently.

That is what the Ukrainians state yes, FP-5's.
They being Firepoint also stated that they are working on the FP-7 and 9 variants also.
Webby1
Webby2

Seem to be in partial response to "gee the USA is a flaky bitch huh?" things. First intimated around November last year, so seems they have shifted to partial production or close enough to as articles state testing is completed

 

[Zidane98]

Getting pretty high up the food chain.

 

[Chief]

Not plaything, they consider them Russian.

So they are just killing their own civilians and taking their own children?

Yeah cool.

 

[GhostofJimJess]

Imagine being a Russian these days and how embarrassing Russia has become as a state. Once a power, now just a terrorist international pariah that nobody wants to deal with apart from mass murderers, human rights abusers and pedos.

I went to Russia in 2012 and had a really amazing experience.

But now I can't wear my fabulous Russia t-shirt, even when gardening, on the off chance I'd be seen wearing it. My wife got a beautiful hat with 'RUSSIA' printed in red sequins and it's been hiding in the back of our wardrobe for the last 3 or 4 years, never looking like seeing the light of day ever again.

Neither of us would be seen dead in otherwise favourite travel items, such is our embarrassment of having visited that shithole of a country.

 

[Dirty Bird]

I went to Russia in 2012 and had a really amazing experience.

But now I can't wear my fabulous Russia t-shirt, even when gardening, on the off chance I'd be seen wearing it. My wife got a beautiful hat with 'RUSSIA' printed in red sequins and it's been hiding in the back of our wardrobe for the last 3 or 4 years, never looking like seeing the light of day ever again.

Neither of us would be seen dead in otherwise favourite travel items, such is our embarrassment of having visited that shithole of a country.

mate - I saw someone yesterday walking around Adelaide in a "I believe in Pauline Hanson" one nation shirt.
If that's culturally acceptable, wearing anything Russia related is fine.

 

[Zidane98]

Yep. Russian shadow tankers now have circumnavigate Black sea staying within Turkish waters (a NATO member!!!) to avoid being taken out by Ukraine.

Imagine losing control over the Black Sea to the country you invaded who doesn't have a navy just because your president is a fascist pos with delusions of a building a Russian empire.

Pedo Epstein Putin a genius.

 

[Zidane98]

 

[Zidane98]

There is a string correlation between pro Russian vatniks here

 

[Aussie in exile]

I'm sure IF NATO troops are attacked in Ukraine they will resprond, which will result in more deaths for russian soldiers, and more deaths for the north korean and chinese soldiers supporting them

 

[wannabejack]

Why would you be worried about peacekeepers in Ukraine unless you’re intending to break any peace agreement.

 

[ferball]

This is what CHomsky said about Ukraine btw...

Well, I think these stipulations are correct, and I would like to add another which I think is also beyond discussion. Whatever the explanation for the Russian invasion, an important, crucial question, the invasion itself was a criminal act, a criminal act of aggression, a supreme international crime on par with other such horrific violations of international law and fundamental human rights like the US invasion of Iraq, the Hitler-Stalin invasion of Poland, and all too many other examples.

What a vatnik.

 

[wannabejack]

This is what CHomsky said about Ukraine btw...

Well, I think these stipulations are correct, and I would like to add another which I think is also beyond discussion. Whatever the explanation for the Russian invasion, an important, crucial question, the invasion itself was a criminal act, a criminal act of aggression, a supreme international crime on par with other such horrific violations of international law and fundamental human rights like the US invasion of Iraq, the Hitler-Stalin invasion of Poland, and all too many other examples.

What a vatnik.

So he agrees the invasion of Ukraine is a “criminal act”. That doesn’t excuse him from being a “vatnik”.
Vatnik : followers of propaganda from the Russian government.

Open Letter to Noam Chomsky (and Other Like-Minded Intellectuals) on the Russia-Ukraine War - Notes - e-flux

An open letter to Noam Chomsky from a group of Ukrainian scholars.

www.e-flux.com

 

[Mobbs]

So he agrees the invasion of Ukraine is a “criminal act”. That doesn’t excuse him from being a “vatnik”.
Vatnik : followers of propaganda from the Russian government.

Open Letter to Noam Chomsky (and Other Like-Minded Intellectuals) on the Russia-Ukraine War - Notes - e-flux

An open letter to Noam Chomsky from a group of Ukrainian scholars.

www.e-flux.com

I don't think he's outright pro-Russian, but Chomsky has been seen to bolster Russian propaganda including:
1. The "one inch eastward" disinformation,
2. The racist "proxy war" falsehood,
3. Defending the Russian atrocities in Georgia,
4a. Repeating the "nuclear risk" argument, being a request to perform human sacrifice with a nation to ensure our own personal security,
4b. Insisting Russia cannot be defeated and Ukraine can fight and be "destroyed" if it wants to, but it should not be supported.

Katya Kotrikadze needs to floss to remove Chomsky entrails from her teeth after interviewing Chomsky 2 years ago. Especial lols for "Georgia were the bad guys." vs "Dude I was there, shut your whore mouth."



That said, I don't think every name that shows up in the Epstein Files would automatically incriminate that person without due investigation. I don't like Chomsky (even though he is almost an exact carbon-copy of my late wife in terms of heritage, upbringing, family movements and most sociopolitical stances). But to be fair I think he's just prone to spouting anything which opposes American political stances.

I bet Trump makes him frigging dizzy. And Dan Everett pretty much turned Chomsky's linguist standing into backwater territory anyway.

 

[wannabejack]

I don't think he's outright pro-Russian, but Chomsky has been seen to bolster Russian propaganda including:
1. The "one inch eastward" disinformation,
2. The racist "proxy war" falsehood,
3. Defending the Russian atrocities in Georgia,
4a. Repeating the "nuclear risk" argument, being a request to perform human sacrifice with a nation to ensure our own personal security,
4b. Insisting Russia cannot be defeated and Ukraine can fight and be "destroyed" if it wants to, but it should not be supported.

Katya Kotrikadze needs to floss to remove Chomsky entrails from her teeth after interviewing Chomsky 2 years ago. Especial lols for "Georgia were the bad guys." vs "Dude I was there, shut your whore mouth."



That said, I don't think every name that shows up in the Epstein Files would automatically incriminate that person without due investigation. I don't like Chomsky (even though he is almost an exact carbon-copy of my late wife in terms of heritage, upbringing, family movements and most sociopolitical stances). But to be fair I think he's just prone to spouting anything which opposes American political stances.

I bet Trump makes him frigging dizzy. And Dan Everett pretty much turned Chomsky's linguist standing into backwater territory anyway.

Vatnik might be to strong.
It’s his statements that align with the message coming from russia that make him an almost vatnik.

 

[ferball]

And Dan Everett pretty much turned Chomsky's linguist standing into backwater territory anyway.

How did this happen (PM me if you want, probably not for this thread.)??

 

[ferball]

Vatnik might be to strong.
It’s his statements that align with the message coming from russia that make him an almost vatnik.

It might be. What do you call people who blindly swallow western propaganda?

 

[wannabejack]

...What do you call people who blindly swallow western propaganda?

I give up. What?
Also I should have use too instead of to.

 

[Mobbs]

How did this happen (PM me if you want, probably not for this thread.)??

It's ok I'll just merge it with a more on-topic response: It's a bit over my head but google the Paraha tribe (the word will have some diacritic characters).

It might be. What do you call people who blindly swallow western propaganda?

Parsons!

 

[ferball]

It's ok I'll just merge it with a more on-topic response: It's a bit over my head but google the Paraha tribe (the word will have some diacritic characters).

I'm aware of his work just dunno if its as definitive as you say.

Parsons!

That's good. I'll use that.