Autopsy Geelong crush Bulldogs in dirty night.

[Oliver G]

H&A matches vs. Geelong at Kardinia Park in the 18-team era (including 2026 fixture, excluding 2020)...

 

[4Seasons]

You’re right. I can’t make it happen.

He’ll go after he’s wasted the prime of the best footballer in the past 15-20 years.

Great player for sure, but best in the past 15-20 years is a stretch and extremely biased.
Fyfe has multiple Brownlows, Selwood has multiple Premierships, Dustin Martin has multiple Norm Smiths, and Premierships, Mitchell has multiple Premierships.

He's our best player in the past 20 years for sure, but don't tell lies to put it on the coach.

 

[Sparkles Buttercup]

I am going to throw it out there. We have multiple injuries on our list over the last few weeks because of one injury to one ruckman. We have been one the back foot since which creates stress across the whole group, especially backmen and midfielders who’s patterns change completely because of this.

Now, the reaction of the injury to English should have been to play one of our reasonable back-up ruckmen (lobb or Darcy) as the primary ruck, but instead we play a unready boy in that position because our coach doesn’t rate it. And before somebody says Darcy took the first centre bounce, that is not playing ruck. playing ruck doing so across the ground.

So the injuries tonight are the fault of the coaching panel, poor list management and poor structure. Yes there is some luck but this is more than that. It is a team that is not structured correctly, has a coach with too much influence on list management and a weak administration that has fallen for the messiah syndrome (sacking Chris grant as the one person who challenged the coach). No ruckman this year, 4 year contracts for gardner, not obtaining even a reasonable key back for 4 years on the basis of Gardner is a good tryer, O’Donnell really could be something are all examples of this. The fairytale is over.

We are a middling team and forever will be unless the coach goes or the list management team tells bevo to stay the f### out of their business and lets them do their jobs without his input.

I doubt the first option will happen so that leaves us with one real choice.

Rant over

 

[hutchy31]

This is all relevant - we are screwed by the fixture and a bunch of other things.

But please do not let that distract from the club and its performance.

 

[MaxiBont]

This is the quickest I’ve gone from pure hope to pure despair in a long time.

 

[TMoney22]

Smith is a self absorbed, arrogant, vain, narcissistic piece of crap.

Makes me want to vomit watching the likes of him prattle on about mental health.

I like to watch who players chat with after the game. Only seen a little on tv but no one chatted with Smith yet they did with others. Says it all. Anyone at the game see more?

 

[threenewpadlocks]

because

this word is doing an awful lot of heavy lifting for the logical conclusions for the rest of your post

 

[Oliver G]

This is all relevant - we are screwed by the fixture and a bunch of other things.

But please do not let that distract from the club and its performance.

Absolutely, the fact that we've only played Geelong at Docklands 5 times (12 seasons) in the Bevo era is totally ******, but the ground location was irrelevant tonight, the last 3 weeks should make that clear to everyone. I don't think I've seen us play a worse 10-quarter stretch in the Bevo era.

 

[Proffessor]

I know people aren’t sold on Coop, but I felt he was better the more responsibility he got. I think Jaques becomes a better wing for us.

We need old Bailey Dale back.

Selwood makes some mistakes but does a lot of good.

I'm really disappointed with the performances Cooper Hynes has been putting in at senior level, and tonight was no different.

Doing the odd, good thing, in amongst a bunch of horrendous mistakes and long periods of low-level involvement won't cut it for long. He has a lot of work to do on his game before he is a best 23 player in a good team.

He looks like so many other talented footballers, who think it's all going to happen for them in time, but don't work hard enough on their weaknesses and wake up too late to find the parade has passed them by.

If not for all our injuries he would definitely deserve to sent back to the VFL for an extended period.

Jaques and Selwood on the other hand were both good and look like they will be long terms players.

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

I like to watch who players chat with after the game. Only seen a little on tv but no one chatted with Smith yet they did with others. Says it all. Anyone at the game see more?

Noticed the same thing, Smith got brushed off by our big dogs, there was a lot of sympathy from some of the Geelong players to Darcy, not Smith of course, as a narcissist, sympathy or empathy is not something he is capable of

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

I'm really disappointed with the performances Cooper Hynes has been putting in at senior level, and tonight was no different.

Doing the odd, good thing, in amongst a bunch of horrendous mistakes and long periods of low-level involvement won't cut it for long. He has a lot of work to do on his game before he is a best 23 player in a good team.

He looks like so many other talented footballers, who think it's all going to happen for them in time, but don't work hard enough on their weaknesses and wake up too late to find the parade has passed them by.

If not for all our injuries he would definitely deserve to sent back to the VFL for an extended period.

Jaques and Selwood on the other hand were both good and look like they will be long terms players.

I think Hymes plays a really tough role, and I thought he was one of the few that fought it out to the end.

 

[Piesnchess]

Sorry, but hey as a Collingwood supporter what would you know, because your club never plays there it means the Bulldogs are the sacrificial lamb that plays there every ****ing year. When was the last time we had a home game against Geelong, oh yeah, Gather Round, and then we played them again at Cat Park.

The AFL is so ****ed, every game has an expected outcome, because the inequity of the draw, means that the Swans, Geelong, Collingwood, and more recently Brisbane make finals every year, because MCG tenants play each other twice, while we are dealt games like the Gold Coast in Darwin.

Enjoy your premierships, but ask yourself are they fairly earned.

Come on I seem to recall the Dogs wanted the 100 yr game, last season, played at the MCG, to attract a bigger crowd, they could have played it at Docklands, it was their home game. Other clubs ask for their home games to be played at the G, to attract bigger crowds for them, the Saints did it few weeks ago. four teams share the ground, not just the Pies. True, we have not played at Geelong since 1999, but our record there was poor too, I was only making an observation that probably the Cats have the biggest home ground advantage in the League, or at least equal to the swans and Lions. BTW Grand Finals are played on the G, because its the biggest ground, we left Victoria Park for that reason, it got to small. Richmond, Melbourne, Essendon, Carlton, Hawthorn have all won flags there too.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Absolutely, the fact that we've only played Geelong at Docklands 5 times (12 seasons) in the Bevo era is totally ******, but the ground location was irrelevant tonight, the last 3 weeks should make that clear to everyone. I don't think I've seen us play a worse 10-quarter stretch in the Bevo era.

For me, it's getting pumped in the 2019 EF, pumped by Pies in the opening game of the 2020 season amidst all the Covid weirdness, and then getting pumped by St Kilda in the opening game of the restart was all pretty horrific (especially in COVID uncertainty, death around us, turning to footy as the only thing that could distract us etc.). And 0-2 in a 17 game season thinking that we'd be up against it even win the 9 of the 15 or so games to make the finals from there.

To think that we'd be the best team in the league essentially 12 months on from that moment too. Shit happens. The club deserves our support either way.

 

[Pocket Terrace]

Of all the absolute shite that we watched tonight, one thing in particular about how we play is starting to piss me off. The high risk way we chip the ball out of our back half is so predictable. The opposition know exactly what is about to happen and set up for it. High risk 20m kicks across our half back line to players surrounded by opponents. Our players in the back half aren’t generally good enough to hit those kicks.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Come on I seem to recall the Dogs wanted the 100 yr game, last season, played at the MCG, to attract a bigger crowd, they could have played it at Docklands, it was their home game.

Cool mate. Maybe we wouldn't need to give up home ground advantage for the financial benefit of doing so if you were willing to share marquee timeslots and be happy to only play 2 MCG away games in a typical year like we do.

Are you going to write to the Collingwood football club about how unfair the whole system is, and that Collingwood should be a good citizen and do their part and play 3 away games a year against Saints, North and the Dogs every single year, and give up Anzac Day and King's Birthday and 5 MCG away games to do this? If not, your statements mean absolutely nothing except to be patronising in a time of footballing dispair for us.

 

[Piesnchess]

Cool mate. Are you going to write to the club president of Collingwood asking if Collingwood can tear up their contract that guarantees 5 of your 11 away games at the MCG?

If you care to check, the other clubs ask the League to play their home games, against the Pies, on the MCG, for bigger crowds and more cash in the till, the saints did it few weeks ago, that was their home match, but they wanted a packed out G to show off their bevy of hotshot new high priced recruits. The Dogs wanted their 100 yr match played their last season too, for the same reason, ground capacity.

 

[revo333]

I'm really disappointed with the performances Cooper Hynes has been putting in at senior level, and tonight was no different.

Doing the odd, good thing, in amongst a bunch of horrendous mistakes and long periods of low-level involvement won't cut it for long. He has a lot of work to do on his game before he is a best 23 player in a good team.

He looks like so many other talented footballers, who think it's all going to happen for them in time, but don't work hard enough on their weaknesses and wake up too late to find the parade has passed them by.

If not for all our injuries he would definitely deserve to sent back to the VFL for an extended period.

Jaques and Selwood on the other hand were both good and look like they will be long terms players.

All mental with him I think.

It's not that he looks scared out there but currently AFL seems intimidating for him he plays like he is fearful of making a mistake every time.

 

[threenewpadlocks]

I'm really disappointed with the performances Cooper Hynes has been putting in at senior level, and tonight was no different.

Doing the odd, good thing, in amongst a bunch of horrendous mistakes and long periods of low-level involvement won't cut it for long. He has a lot of work to do on his game before he is a best 23 player in a good team.

He looks like so many other talented footballers, who think it's all going to happen for them in time, but don't work hard enough on their weaknesses and wake up too late to find the parade has passed them by.

If not for all our injuries he would definitely deserve to sent back to the VFL for an extended period.

Jaques and Selwood on the other hand were both good and look like they will be long terms players.

Hynes is a developing footballer that has enough traits worth persisting with, and is still better than other options even if we didn't have development in mind.

I don't disagree entirely with your view on Hynes, but we have to accept that this the past we've gone down when we decided we would go out and recruit players like Hynes instead of recyling mature agers or fringe talents from other clubs. What's the alternative? Complain about the fact that we aren't developing kids?

 

[threenewpadlocks]

If you care to check, the other clubs ask the League to play their home games, against the Pies, on the MCG, for bigger crowds and more cash in the till, the saints did it few weeks ago, that was their home match, but they wanted a packed out G to show off their bevy of hotshot new high priced recruits. The Dogs wanted their 100 yr match played their last season too, for the same reason, ground capacity.

Ok, if then a packed out MCG is beneficial to clubs, why don't all Melbourne-based clubs get to play half their home games there, and half at Docklands? Why does Collingwood get to dictate the fact that 14 of their 22 non-Gather Round games get to be at the Stadium? Should the AFL sign a contract with all Melbourne-based teams that they too get to play 14 games a season at the MCG?

What exactly are you trying to say here? We don't need a Collingwood fan's tortured, incorrect and patronising explanation of the way the world works on the very night that Dogs fans are rightfully feeling more than a bit bummed.

 

[Proffessor]

Biggest mistake at selection was not to play Treloar.
He is an AFL level footballer. No point running him around in the VFL where he is just as likely to get hurt as in the AFL.

Enough of the prove your fitness rubbish. If he is fit enough for VFL then he is fit enough for AFL.

 

[Oliver G]

For me, it's getting pumped in the 2019 EF, pumped by Pies in the opening game of the 2020 season amidst all the Covid weirdness, and then getting pumped by St Kilda in the opening game of the restart was all pretty horrific (especially in COVID uncertainty, death around us, turning to footy as the only thing that could distract us etc.). And 0-2 in a 17 game season thinking that we'd be up against it even win the 9 of the 15 or so games to make the finals from there.

To think that we'd be the best team in the league essentially 12 months on from that moment too. Shit happens. The club deserves our support either way.

Christ you're right, that was worse, I'd forgotten about that. This time around, it just feels more bizarre though, given how easily we were scoring in the opening few games.

 

[Piesnchess]

Cool mate. Maybe we wouldn't need to give up home ground advantage for the financial benefit of doing so if you were willing to share marquee timeslots and be happy to only play 2 MCG away games in a typical year like we do.

Are you going to write to the Collingwood football club about how unfair the whole system is, and that Collingwood should be a good citizen and do their part and play 3 away games a year against Saints, North and the Dogs every single year, and give up Anzac Day and King's Birthday and 5 MCG away games to do this? If not, your statements mean absolutely nothing except to be patronising in a time of footballing dispair for us.

im pretty sure we have played some home games v the dogs at Docklands, last few yrs, I recall that well, and the Saints wanted their home game this season, played at the G, to show off their new high priced recruits.

 

[TheScriptorWL]

Of all the absolute shite that we watched tonight, one thing in particular about how we play is starting to piss me off. The high risk way we chip the ball out of our back half is so predictable. The opposition know exactly what is about to happen and set up for it. High risk 20m kicks across our half back line to players surrounded by opponents. Our players in the back half aren’t generally good enough to hit those kicks.

2-3 chip kicks around the line, Bomb long down the wing. Turnover, Oppo Handball, Missed Tackle, Jezza Cameron marks 35m.

Rinse and Repeat. All Night. Work to do.

 

[Dogs_r_barking]

Come on I seem to recall the Dogs wanted the 100 yr game, last season, played at the MCG, to attract a bigger crowd, they could have played it at Docklands, it was their home game. Other clubs ask for their home games to be played at the G, to attract bigger crowds for them, the Saints did it few weeks ago. four teams share the ground, not just the Pies. True, we have not played at Geelong since 1999, but our record there was poor too, I was only making an observation that probably the Cats have the biggest home ground advantage in the League, or at least equal to the swans and Lions. BTW Grand Finals are played on the G, because its the biggest ground, we left Victoria Park for that reason, it got to small. Richmond, Melbourne, Essendon, Carlton, Hawthorn have all won flags there too.

Yeah, that was the game for our 100 years in the AFL/VFL, which we had to pay the AFL for, and, not just quoting me as a Bulldogs supporter, but numerous commentators including Razor Ray, we got dudded by the umpires and should have won that game, and if we did, we would have made finals last year….

Not having a go at you personally, it is appreciated that you dropped by, just letting out some frustration at the AFL, and how much harder it is to win enough games to make top four and have a strike at the flag when you are not Geelong, interstate or a MCG tenant (no other Marvel tenants have ever won a premiership).

 

[Dogs Rule]

Someone needs to teach him the concept of restraint, he doesn’t seem to realise he doesn’t have to be a massive dick every waking moment of the day

It's the classic narcissist. Everything has to be about him and if it's not, he makes it about him.