The obscure XI's you've always wanted to make but never found the appropriate place thread

[cricketnut14]

Won some individual award like MOTM in their final game (whether it be Test or first class or one-dayer)??

Jaques 31 & 108
Phillips 62 & 15
Gillespie 201*, 3/11 & 0/14
Love 100*
Hodge 67 & 27
Law 54*
Patterson 114*
Dodemaide 13* & 2*, 4/65
Bichel 19 & 1, 4/118 & 1/35
Yardley DNB, 5/88 & 2/78
Miller 0 & 2, 3/160 & 3/41

All useful contributors in their final test match and to never play again.

 

[dogs105]

Jaques 31 & 108
Phillips 62 & 15
Gillespie 201*, 3/11 & 0/14
Love 100*
Hodge 67 & 27
Law 54*
Patterson 114*
Dodemaide 13* & 2*, 4/65
Bichel 19 & 1, 4/118 & 1/35
Yardley DNB, 5/88 & 2/78
Miller 0 & 2, 3/160 & 3/41

All useful contributors in their final test match and to never play again.

Greg Chappell 182 could beat out Hodge or Law

 

[cricketnut14]

Greg Chappell 182 could beat out Hodge or Law

didnt put chappell in because he chose to play his last test match.
the others didn't get a choice. but good shout out.

 

[Rabish Binney]

Jaques 31 & 108
Phillips 62 & 15
Gillespie 201*, 3/11 & 0/14
Love 100*
Hodge 67 & 27
Law 54*
Patterson 114*
Dodemaide 13* & 2*, 4/65
Bichel 19 & 1, 4/118 & 1/35
Yardley DNB, 5/88 & 2/78
Miller 0 & 2, 3/160 & 3/41

All useful contributors in their final test match and to never play again.

A couple more to your list:

1. West Indian Andy Ganteaume. 112 in his one and only test innings (WI vs England, 1947).
2. New Zealander Rod Redmond. 107 & 56 in his only rest (NZ vs Pakistan, 1972/73)

Ganteaume was a dour batsman and didn't score quickly enough for the liking of the Windies selectors and apparently this is why he was only selected once for the Windies.

After Redmond's 1st test, he was selected for the 1973 NZ tour of England. But he experienced issues with his eyesight and it was on that 1973 tour he experimented with new contact lenses which didn't help.

He didn't play a test on that tour nor thereafter. He missed the entire 1973/74 NZ summer and 2 years later he was gone from 1st class cricket altogether.

 

[cricketnut14]

bruce reid also got 5/112 & 2/39 in his last test and with reoccurring injuries, never played again.

 

[Wallaby]

Clarrie Grimmet took 44 wickets in his last test series against South Africa in 1935/36, including 13-for in his last-ever test. Controversially, he was was not selected for the next Ashes series in 1936/37 or the English tour in 1938 supposedly because either:
a) Bradman didn't like Grimmett.
or
b) the selectors preferred Frank Ward, and Bradman still didn't like Grimmett.
.

 

[ioppolo]

Clarrie Grimmet took 44 wickets in his last test series against South Africa in 1935/36, including 13-for in his last-ever test. Controversially, he was was not selected for the next Ashes series in 1936/37 or the English tour in 1938 supposedly because either:
a) Bradman didn't like Grimmett.
or
b) the selectors preferred Frank Ward, and Bradman still didn't like Grimmett.
.

44 wickets as a 44 year old. Ridiculous longevity.

 

[Rabish Binney]

44 wickets as a 44 year old. Ridiculous longevity.

33 years old when he made his test debut.

 

[eth-dog]

21st century Ashes XI (note that the matches are for specific positions, openers in that position, 3 in that position, 4-7 combined middle order):

1. Alastair Cook (35 matches, 2493 runs, average 40.2, 5x 100, 11x 50)
2. Matthew Hayden (20 matches, 1461 runs, ave 45.65, 5x 100, 2x 50)
3. Ricky Ponting (28 matches, 2170 runs, ave 48.22, 7x 100, 9x 50, c)
4. Steve Smith (36 matches, 3178 runs, ave 56.75, 11x 100, 13x 50)
5. Michael Hussey (15 matches, 1304 runs, ave 59.27, 4x 100, 9x 50)
6. Ben Stokes (29 matches, 1703 runs, ave 33.39, 4x 100, 10x 50; 56 wickets, ave 35.25, ER 3.86, SR 54.7)
7. Adam Gilchrist (19 matches, 1045 runs, ave 47.5, 3x 100, 6x 50; 96 dismissals, +)
8. Mitchell Starc (27 matches, 128 wickets, ave 25.57, ER 3.65, SR 42)
9. Pat Cummins (20 matches, 97 wickets, ave 23.82, ER 3.17, SR 45)
10. Shane Warne (18 matches, 108 wickets, ave 22.42, ER 2.95, SR 45.5)
11. Glenn McGrath (17 matches, 91 wickets, ave 20.48, ER 2.66, SR 36.1)

Broad the most unlucky to miss, Jonson probably 5th in line quick and Harris after them, with Lyon the next spinner in.

 

[Jack Mundy]

Best combined xi's from u19 world cups
1988
Michael Atherton
Sanath Jayasuriya
Brian Lara
Nasser Hussain (C)
Inzamam-ul-Haq
Jimmy Adams
Chris Cairns
Ridley Jacobs +
Mushtaq Ahmed
Aaqib Javed
Andy Caddick

1998
Virender Sehwag
Chris Gayle
Ramnaresh Sarwan (C)
Jacques Rudolph
Marcus North
Marlon Samuels
Prasanna Jayawardene +
Abdul Razzaq
Kyle Mills
Graeme Swann
Harbhajan Singh

2000
Shane Watson
Graeme Smith (C)
Jonathan Trott
Ian Bell
Michael Clarke
Brendon McCullum +
Shoaib Malik
Mitchell Johnson
James Franklin
Danish Kaneria
Tim Murtagh

2002
Azhar Ali
Shaun Marsh
Hashim Amla (C)
Ross Taylor
Sean Ervine
Brendan Taylor+
Dwayne Bravo
Irfan Pathan
Narsingh Deonarine
Shane Shillingford
Umar Gul

2004
Alastair Cook (C)
Shikhar Dhawan
Abid Ali
Sean Williams
Angelo Mathews
BJ Watling +
Colin de Grandhomme
Vernon Philander
Steve O'Keefe
Tim Bresnan
Wahab Riaz

2006
David Warner
Dimuth Karunaratne
Cheteshwar Pujara
Virat Kohli (C)
Babar Azam
Angelo Mathews
Mushfiqur Rahim +
Ravindra Jadeja
Ishant Sharma
Tim Southee
Kemar Roach

 

[Rabish Binney]

Best combined xi's from u19 world cups
1988
Michael Atherton
Sanath Jayasuriya
Brian Lara
Nasser Hussain (C)
Inzamam-ul-Haq
Jimmy Adams
Chris Cairns
Ridley Jacobs +
Mushtaq Ahmed
Aaqib Javed
Andy Caddick

1998
Virender Sehwag
Chris Gayle
Ramnaresh Sarwan (C)
Jacques Rudolph
Marcus North
Marlon Samuels
Prasanna Jayawardene +
Abdul Razzaq
Kyle Mills
Graeme Swann
Harbhajan Singh

2000
Shane Watson
Graeme Smith (C)
Jonathan Trott
Ian Bell
Michael Clarke
Brendon McCullum +
Shoaib Malik
Mitchell Johnson
James Franklin
Danish Kaneria
Tim Murtagh

2002
Azhar Ali
Shaun Marsh
Hashim Amla (C)
Ross Taylor
Sean Ervine
Brendan Taylor+
Dwayne Bravo
Irfan Pathan
Narsingh Deonarine
Shane Shillingford
Umar Gul

2004
Alastair Cook (C)
Shikhar Dhawan
Abid Ali
Sean Williams
Angelo Mathews
BJ Watling +
Colin de Grandhomme
Vernon Philander
Steve O'Keefe
Tim Bresnan
Wahab Riaz

2006
David Warner
Dimuth Karunaratne
Cheteshwar Pujara
Virat Kohli (C)
Babar Azam
Angelo Mathews
Mushfiqur Rahim +
Ravindra Jadeja
Ishant Sharma
Tim Southee
Kemar Roach

Openers in the 1998 side, Gayle and Sehwag.

Wouldn't be a dull moment with those two at the crease.

 

[worbod]

A team whose first names are also children's fictional characters

 

[sherb]

Jaques 31 & 108
Phillips 62 & 15
Gillespie 201*, 3/11 & 0/14
Love 100*
Hodge 67 & 27
Law 54*
Patterson 114*
Dodemaide 13* & 2*, 4/65
Bichel 19 & 1, 4/118 & 1/35
Yardley DNB, 5/88 & 2/78
Miller 0 & 2, 3/160 & 3/41

All useful contributors in their final test match and to never play again.

Bruce Yardley probably would have played again but retired when he didn't get selected for the 83 World Cup in England (the fourth time in five years he didn't get selected to go to the UK).

 

[big_e]

1. Gavaskar
2. Sehwag
3. Root
4. Tendulkar
5. Kallis
6 S Waugh
7. Kirmani
8. Warne
9. Hadlee
10. Anderson
11. Muralitharan

 

[happy_eagle]

Wonder if anyone can pick this

Steve Smith
Jos Buttler
Darren Lehmann
Arjuna Ranatunga
Glenn Maxwell
M.S Dhoni
Mohinder Amarnath
Imran Khan
Deryck Murray
Colin Croft
Glenn McGrath

 

[cricketnut14]

Wonder if anyone can pick this

Steve Smith
Jos Buttler
Darren Lehmann
Arjuna Ranatunga
Glenn Maxwell
M.S Dhoni
Mohinder Amarnath
Imran Khan
Deryck Murray
Colin Croft
Glenn McGrath

either hit the winning runs in an ODI World Cup Final, or took the final wicket to end the match.

 

[happy_eagle]

either hit the winning runs in an ODI World Cup Final, or took the final wicket to end the match.

correct.

 

[Duckimus Prime]

21st century Ashes XI (note that the matches are for specific positions, openers in that position, 3 in that position, 4-7 combined middle order):

1. Alastair Cook (35 matches, 2493 runs, average 40.2, 5x 100, 11x 50)
2. Matthew Hayden (20 matches, 1461 runs, ave 45.65, 5x 100, 2x 50)
3. Ricky Ponting (28 matches, 2170 runs, ave 48.22, 7x 100, 9x 50, c)
4. Steve Smith (36 matches, 3178 runs, ave 56.75, 11x 100, 13x 50)
5. Michael Hussey (15 matches, 1304 runs, ave 59.27, 4x 100, 9x 50)
6. Ben Stokes (29 matches, 1703 runs, ave 33.39, 4x 100, 10x 50; 56 wickets, ave 35.25, ER 3.86, SR 54.7)
7. Adam Gilchrist (19 matches, 1045 runs, ave 47.5, 3x 100, 6x 50; 96 dismissals, +)
8. Mitchell Starc (27 matches, 128 wickets, ave 25.57, ER 3.65, SR 42)
9. Pat Cummins (20 matches, 97 wickets, ave 23.82, ER 3.17, SR 45)
10. Shane Warne (18 matches, 108 wickets, ave 22.42, ER 2.95, SR 45.5)
11. Glenn McGrath (17 matches, 91 wickets, ave 20.48, ER 2.66, SR 36.1)

Broad the most unlucky to miss, Jonson probably 5th in line quick and Harris after them, with Lyon the next spinner in.

Leaving out the second highest run scorer in Ashes Tests in the 21st Century is an interesting take from the positional lock.

Although at 6 Mitch Marsh with a batting average of 47 and a bowling average of 29, economy of 3.82 and strike rate of 46.5 covers Stokes. The only place Stokes gets him is in total runs and wickets from 29 matches instead of 10. And the number of 50s, 10 vs 1. Centuries wise is 4 for Stokes vs 3 for the Bison.

Your bowlers don't hang onto order position, because Warney never batted at 10, and he probably wouldn't in this team either.

Punter and Broad picked almost the same 11 prior to the last Ashes but Root at 4, Smith sliding to 5 and Hussey out, and Broad instead of Mitchell Starc.

 

[eth-dog]

Leaving out the second highest run scorer in Ashes Tests in the 21st Century is an interesting take from the positional lock.

Although at 6 Mitch Marsh with a batting average of 47 and a bowling average of 29, economy of 3.82 and strike rate of 46.5 covers Stokes. The only place Stokes gets him is in total runs and wickets from 29 matches instead of 10. And the number of 50s, 10 vs 1. Centuries wise is 4 for Stokes vs 3 for the Bison.

Your bowlers don't hang onto order position, because Warney never batted at 10, and he probably wouldn't in this team either.

Punter and Broad picked almost the same 11 prior to the last Ashes but Root at 4, Smith sliding to 5 and Hussey out, and Broad instead of Mitchell Starc.

His average is prohibitive. Ponting averages 46 overall, Smith 56, Hussey 59. You could also put Pieterson in ahead of Root as well. So not only would I not have him in the middle order, I would have another bat ahead of him.

Marsh vs Stokes I'm not really fussed on. I can see arguments for either.

Bowlers batting position is pretty irrelevant. The order was important for the bats but there's no way Warne bats ahead of Starc and Cummins. Both are much superior bats to him.

Broad vs Starc is an argument but I'm taking Starc.

 

[sabso]

Here’s a very unbalanced xi, I also cheated a bit. Probably very easy.

Barry Richards
Geoffrey Boycott
*Don Bradman
George Headley
Vijay Merchant
Zia ul-Haq
+Andy Flower
Clyde Walcott
Fawad Alam
Martin Crowe
Kamindu Mendis

 

[Bedi]

In recent news with Bracewell -- https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/articles/c1w4rn2219vo -- we're getting close to getting our first official coke head first XI

Brenadan Taylor
Sean Williams
Dermott Reeve
Wasim Akram
Kasigo Rabada
Stuart Macgill
Doug Bracewell

 

[corbies]

In recent news with Bracewell -- https://www.bbc.com/sport/cricket/articles/c1w4rn2219vo -- we're getting close to getting our first official coke head first XI

Brenadan Taylor
Sean Williams
Dermott Reeve
Wasim Akram
Kasigo Rabada
Stuart Macgill
Doug Bracewell

Alex Hales
Chris Lewis
Ed Giddins
David Murray

and the 1000s who haven't been caught.

 

[Bedi]

Alex Hales
Chris Lewis
Ed Giddins
David Murray

and the 1000s who haven't been caught.

nice, thanks for completing the side!

 

[Jack Mundy]

Here’s a very unbalanced xi, I also cheated a bit. Probably very easy.

Barry Richards
Geoffrey Boycott
*Don Bradman
George Headley
Vijay Merchant
Zia ul-Haq
+Andy Flower
Clyde Walcott
Fawad Alam
Martin Crowe
Kamindu Mendis

Player with highest fc batting average for each country. Headley is from Jamaica and Walcott from Barbados

 

[sabso]

Player with highest fc batting average for each country. Headley is from Jamaica and Walcott from Barbados

Spot on, there weren’t any Bangladesh or Ireland players on cricinfos list so I ended up using two players from different modern countries within the West Indies to make up for it