Player Watch Sid Draper

[hugecannon]

Bring him in for Taylor and let him develop his game at AFL level.

 

[Gtowncrow]

Stat line of only 13 touches, 3 tackles and 48 Fantasy points in the SANFL tonight

Did he get midfield time?

What's going on here, should we be starting to worry?

Brayden Cook say's "hold my beer. It's still coming".

 

[1990crow]

Brayden Cook say's "hold my beer. It's still coming".

Can't wait for 2030!

 

[Cromulant]

Can't wait for 2030!

Brayden wasnt getting 13 touches in the SANFL in his 2nd year on the list.

 

[Doctor B]

We're opposite in player development to Brisbane.

Our philosophy is to play in the twos, work on your games deficiencies before we look at selecting you with a solid block of games.

Inside the culture of empowerment helping Brisbane create an AFL dynasty

Brisbane's youngest players rise to the occasion on the biggest stage, led by its 21-year-old Norm Smith medallist Will Ashcroft. Here's how the two-time premiers allow their kids to thrive.

www.abc.net.au

Its 2025 grand final side had eight players under the age of 22 in it
Three players, Levi Ashcroft, Ty Gallop and Sam Marshall, played in the grand final as teenagers. Another, Logan Morris, started the season as a teenager and finished it kicking a remarkable 53 goals.

According to Fagan, Brisbane empowers each of its young players, something that he has tried to do since he took over as Lions coach.

"We don't put any limits on them. I don't go, 'Oh, you're a 10-game player so just do your job and don't be yourself'," he said.

"We try and encourage our players to play to their strengths and use their weapons, and I've done that from the day I first started.

"It took a while for them to have the confidence to do it, but the younger boys who have come into the club in more recent times have walked into that culture and they're just encouraged to be themselves and to play as a part of the team, of course, but to show what they've got. We don't hold them back.

 

[jackster83]

We're opposite in player development to Brisbane.

Our philosophy is to play in the twos, work on your games deficiencies before we look at selecting you with a solid block of games.

Inside the culture of empowerment helping Brisbane create an AFL dynasty

Brisbane's youngest players rise to the occasion on the biggest stage, led by its 21-year-old Norm Smith medallist Will Ashcroft. Here's how the two-time premiers allow their kids to thrive.

www.abc.net.au

Its 2025 grand final side had eight players under the age of 22 in it
Three players, Levi Ashcroft, Ty Gallop and Sam Marshall, played in the grand final as teenagers. Another, Logan Morris, started the season as a teenager and finished it kicking a remarkable 53 goals.

According to Fagan, Brisbane empowers each of its young players, something that he has tried to do since he took over as Lions coach.

"We don't put any limits on them. I don't go, 'Oh, you're a 10-game player so just do your job and don't be yourself'," he said.

"We try and encourage our players to play to their strengths and use their weapons, and I've done that from the day I first started.

"It took a while for them to have the confidence to do it, but the younger boys who have come into the club in more recent times have walked into that culture and they're just encouraged to be themselves and to play as a part of the team, of course, but to show what they've got. We don't hold them back.

Crushers need to know their place.

 

[Gtowncrow]

We're opposite in player development to Brisbane.

Our philosophy is to play in the twos, work on your games deficiencies before we look at selecting you with a solid block of games.

Inside the culture of empowerment helping Brisbane create an AFL dynasty

Brisbane's youngest players rise to the occasion on the biggest stage, led by its 21-year-old Norm Smith medallist Will Ashcroft. Here's how the two-time premiers allow their kids to thrive.

www.abc.net.au

Its 2025 grand final side had eight players under the age of 22 in it
Three players, Levi Ashcroft, Ty Gallop and Sam Marshall, played in the grand final as teenagers. Another, Logan Morris, started the season as a teenager and finished it kicking a remarkable 53 goals.

According to Fagan, Brisbane empowers each of its young players, something that he has tried to do since he took over as Lions coach.

"We don't put any limits on them. I don't go, 'Oh, you're a 10-game player so just do your job and don't be yourself'," he said.

"We try and encourage our players to play to their strengths and use their weapons, and I've done that from the day I first started.

"It took a while for them to have the confidence to do it, but the younger boys who have come into the club in more recent times have walked into that culture and they're just encouraged to be themselves and to play as a part of the team, of course, but to show what they've got. We don't hold them back.

I wish our football dept had the courage and wisdom to be the Brisbane example. I guess it's easy to be blaise when you're as stacked as Brisbane and have high draft pick players waiting their turn. Most clubs don't have anything like the depth.

But our own philosophy is actually close to the Geelong way of developing youngsters...as unpopular as that will sound to the prevailing big footy narrative. Geelong delist guys each year we've never heard of because they need to force their way into the team just like our guys need to. One big difference though to the Cats is their recruitment of mature age talent. Tom Stewart for example was playing local footy (not even VFL).

But back to the beginning, we are clearly risk averse and therefore timid with our selections. I hope Charlie Edwards gets another go very soon...even just to prove me wrong.

 

[Mutineer]

I wish our football dept had the courage and wisdom to be the Brisbane example. I guess it's easy to be blaise when you're as stacked as Brisbane and have high draft pick players waiting their turn. Most clubs don't have anything like the depth.

But our own philosophy is actually close to the Geelong way of developing youngsters...as unpopular as that will sound to the prevailing big footy narrative. Geelong delist guys each year we've never heard of because they need to force their way into the team just like our guys need to. One big difference though to the Cats is their recruitment of mature age talent. Tom Stewart for example was playing local footy (not even VFL).

But back to the beginning, we are clearly risk averse and therefore timid with our selections. I hope Charlie Edwards gets another go very soon...even just to prove me wrong.

Wan't Tom Stewart playing for Geelongin the VFL prior to getting drafted like quite a few of their mature age pick ups?

 

[CDC60]

Bring him in for Taylor and let him develop his game at AFL level.

Taylor is chronically under valued outside of the club. He's played 21 of our last 28 games. He does things few others can and makes excellent decisions. The way he won the ball to start the chain for the Milera goal (that wasn't) was exceptional. You'd love hm to have more possessions but he's playing a very tough role, and one I doubt Sid is suited

 

[pjcrows]

We're opposite in player development to Brisbane.

Our philosophy is to play in the twos, work on your games deficiencies before we look at selecting you with a solid block of games.

Inside the culture of empowerment helping Brisbane create an AFL dynasty

Brisbane's youngest players rise to the occasion on the biggest stage, led by its 21-year-old Norm Smith medallist Will Ashcroft. Here's how the two-time premiers allow their kids to thrive.

www.abc.net.au

Its 2025 grand final side had eight players under the age of 22 in it
Three players, Levi Ashcroft, Ty Gallop and Sam Marshall, played in the grand final as teenagers. Another, Logan Morris, started the season as a teenager and finished it kicking a remarkable 53 goals.

According to Fagan, Brisbane empowers each of its young players, something that he has tried to do since he took over as Lions coach.

"We don't put any limits on them. I don't go, 'Oh, you're a 10-game player so just do your job and don't be yourself'," he said.

"We try and encourage our players to play to their strengths and use their weapons, and I've done that from the day I first started.

"It took a while for them to have the confidence to do it, but the younger boys who have come into the club in more recent times have walked into that culture and they're just encouraged to be themselves and to play as a part of the team, of course, but to show what they've got. We don't hold them back.

Don't even need to look outside our own club history.

1997 anyone?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

How is he looking physically?

Is he playing full minutes - no management?

Speed and power back?

Feels like there's a number of hoops to get through and conditioning is the first one. Can he train regularly, play every week, and back up game to game?

Once that's banked, then we can start to think about his actual football performance.

Not great that a Pick 4 and one of our midfield's great white hopes is a fair way back but that might just be the cards he's/we've been dealt.

 

[Cromulant]

How is he looking physically?

Is he playing full minutes - no management?

Speed and power back?

Feels like there's a number of hoops to get through and conditioning is the first one. Can he train regularly, play every week, and back up game to game?

Once that's banked, then we can start to think about his actual football.

Not great that a Pick 4 and one of our midfield's great white hopes is a fair way back but that might just be the cards he's/we've been dealt.

Fitness and conditioning looks good, has put on some size and up until this week has looked good in game.

Few bedwetters worried about one ordinary game

 

[Gtowncrow]

Wan't Tom Stewart playing for Geelongin the VFL prior to getting drafted like quite a few of their mature age pick ups?

Nope.
I'm very confident he was playing for South Barwon and Matthew Scarlett mentioned to the club he was worth a look. If this is wrong, I've not met anyone inside or outside of the club with a contrary story.

He may have then come into Geelong VFL team but I don't know that or at least the timing of any VFL involvement.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Nope.
I'm very confident he was playing for South Barwon and Matthew Scarlett mentioned to the club he was worth a look. If this is wrong, I've not met anyone inside or outside of the club with a contrary story.

He may have then come into Geelong VFL team but I don't know that or at least the timing of any VFL involvement.

Correct.

Geelong Falcons
South Barwon under Scarlett
Geelong Cats

 

[Gtowncrow]

Taylor is chronically under valued outside of the club. He's played 21 of our last 28 games. He does things few others can and makes excellent decisions. The way he won the ball to start the chain for the Milera goal (that wasn't) was exceptional. You'd love hm to have more possessions but he's playing a very tough role, and one I doubt Sid is suited

Agree.
His bloody minded tenacity to win that ball for the Milera non goal was elite manic pressure. Pure desire and ruthless intent.

Magnificent!

 

[Mutineer]

Correct.

Geelong Falcons
South Barwon under Scarlett
Geelong Cats VFL 2016

EFA
Pick 40 2016 National Draft
Geelong Cats AFL 2017

 

[SugarShane]

We're opposite in player development to Brisbane.

Our philosophy is to play in the twos, work on your games deficiencies before we look at selecting you with a solid block of games.

Inside the culture of empowerment helping Brisbane create an AFL dynasty

Brisbane's youngest players rise to the occasion on the biggest stage, led by its 21-year-old Norm Smith medallist Will Ashcroft. Here's how the two-time premiers allow their kids to thrive.

www.abc.net.au

Its 2025 grand final side had eight players under the age of 22 in it
Three players, Levi Ashcroft, Ty Gallop and Sam Marshall, played in the grand final as teenagers. Another, Logan Morris, started the season as a teenager and finished it kicking a remarkable 53 goals.

According to Fagan, Brisbane empowers each of its young players, something that he has tried to do since he took over as Lions coach.

"We don't put any limits on them. I don't go, 'Oh, you're a 10-game player so just do your job and don't be yourself'," he said.

"We try and encourage our players to play to their strengths and use their weapons, and I've done that from the day I first started.

"It took a while for them to have the confidence to do it, but the younger boys who have come into the club in more recent times have walked into that culture and they're just encouraged to be themselves and to play as a part of the team, of course, but to show what they've got. We don't hold them back.

Any danger of Murray Davis passing on this philosophy given he worked with Fagan for years?

 

[cleanhands]

Any danger of Murray Davis passing on this philosophy given he worked with Fagan for years?

Most likely has and ignored

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Any danger of Murray Davis passing on this philosophy given he worked with Fagan for years?

Would prefer if he just take over coaching & leave Nicks to do relationship stuff

 

[Geoffa32]

Get him in the AFL side while he is fit.

 

[Mutineer]

Form is concerning, there I said it.

 

[CDC60]

Form is concerning, there I said it.

Yep. We need to lower expectations given what he’s produced this year unless there is an injury seriously hampering his output. Not sure he’d be drafted on current form.

 

[Cromulant]

Yep. We need to lower expectations given what he’s produced this year unless there is an injury seriously hampering his output. Not sure he’d be drafted on current form.

I've read some funny stuff on here..... but this is a doozy.

 

[Coopers]

At what stage do you feel we have chayce jonesed him

Well if he's fit, and we can't mess with him anymore by making him the sub, then I guess we can still yo-yo him in and out of the team and play him at half forward for like, 50% of games?

And get in his ear about how he's both not getting the ball enough and not close enough to some guy he should be hard tagging.

 

[Mutineer]

I've read some funny stuff on here..... but this is a doozy.

So your satisfied with his current form and trajectory regards his development?
We should all be concerned IMHO, apart from his speed there hasn't been a lot to enthuse about with his game currently.
Is it the end of the world for Sid?
No, but it has to be concerning because by all accounts he's no longer carrying niggles that are holding him back.